iPhone vs. Droid

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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Does Android have anything that works as effortlessly as iCloud? Honest question.

I love the fact that when I make a reminder/calendar update, add/edit a contact, or add bookmarks (with Safari or IE on windows) it pushes it to my other devices within seconds. Photostream (still needs a little fine tuning though) makes it nice to take a picture with my phone then go to my iPad or iMac and edit it with a larger screen, set as the home screen or whatever. iTunes purchases work the same way. When you download to one device it will push it to your other devices automatically. I never buy music from iTunes (usually cheaper on amazon or even google music then wirelessly sync from the desktop) but it works with apps too. Then there is iMessage, while limited to iOS users (ok for me since 90% of the people I text regularly are on iPhones), allows me to message someone from my iPad (coming to OSX this summer) and pick up the thread on my phone.

Granted it helps to be in the Mac ecosystem to get the full use out of iCloud, although you can set it up on Windows machines fairly easy too as I did with my laptop that I rarely open anymore.

And the beauty is this all just works out of the box. When I got my iPhone it prompted me to log into my iCloud account that I already had set up on my desktop and just pulled all my contacts and bookmarks over without me even realizing it. Then I got an iPad and it did the same. This is worth more to me than being able add a YouTube widget to my home screen.

This may be branching out from the topic of just phones but really these devices are starting to become interchangeable. As the harware and software developer this seamless connectivity is a real advantage for Apple products. I'm looking forward to getting an AppleTV this summer so I can wirelessly mirror my iPhone, iPad and iMac to my TV. I'm not big gamer but the dual screen function for games with mirroring looks promising (like the up coming WiiU).
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Cloud comparison: Apple iCloud vs. Google vs. Windows Live
 
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Im not trying to be confrontational but that article seems outdated and a little short sighted since it was written before iCloud was even on the market.

I figured Android had a cloud service of some kind. After all you can access google music on iOS as well (article didn't even mention iTunes Match or know of its existence for that matter) and also the kindle cloud service which I believe is powered by Android (and can be accessed to some degree on iOS). From reading that review it wasn't very clear about how effortless the migration of data is from mobile to desktop for Andoid. For instance, if I set a reminder on my phone for tomorrow morning I will get that notification on my phone, desktop, and tablet automatically on the home screen. So which ever device I pick up first I will get that reminder.

Also how has the picture transfer shaken out? Review made it out to be incomplete. When you go to your desktop or Android tablet do you have to manually download them from the cloud? With photostream they they are in iPhoto already.

The review also said purchasing apps on your desktop and automatically appearing on your mobile is "something that can only be found on Android". It may not have come until the launch of iCloud but that is a feature supported by iOS. In fact, it works backwards too. If I purchase and app on my mobile it will automatically show up in my iTunes on my desktop.

And that was kind of my point. With iOS you don't even have to think about it, it just does it (unless you manually turn it off).
 
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yeah it voids the warranty. Not a big fan of my droid 3 so far. Battery life is the worst. Screen locks up repeatedly. Shuts itself down during the middle of a call several times. I'll be looking to swtich to something else when I can.
 
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MSUDuo said:
Am I correct in assuming it voids the warranty?

Is difficult? Even for an idiot like me when it comes to computer type stuff?
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Yes, rooting your device voids the warranty.......BUT.......all you have to do is keep an unrooted, stock nandroid backup on the phone, and flash back to that if you need to take it to the store.
 
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WA_Vol said:
yeah it voids the warranty. Not a big fan of my droid 3 so far. Battery life is the worst. Screen locks up repeatedly. Shuts itself down during the middle of a call several times. I'll be looking to swtich to something else when I can.
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Outside of my now-retired Droid X, I've never been much of a fan of Motorola's line of Android devices.

I'm not sure which other device you're considering, but I've had my Galaxy Nexus for a couple of months so far, and absolutely love it.
 
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I think it should be noted that a rooting a device will void your manufacturer's warranty. Some carriers don't care. Sprint will still work on and replace rooted phones. First thing you'll probably get in a service is the phone flashed back to stock, but at least they will work on it and go from there.
 
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Will be giving it a shot later today after some further reading...

Hope I don't screw anything up!!!
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
that dude has the droid so far up his ass he doesn't even know how to use an iphone even though he claims to know IOS since he owns an iPad, lol.
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If iPhone users ever decided to begin spending as much time and energy discrediting Android phones as Droid fanboys spend bashing Apple, the whole economy would grind to a halt within the week.
 
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A couple of days ago I was trying to film my niece singing to my son when I ran out of storage on my 16GB iPhone. Figured if I remove the 7GB of music I won't have that problem again so I broke down and paid for iTunes Match ($25/year). Now I have access to all my music and my wife's (<--meh - well mostly). That's nice because I had a hard time deciding what I wanted to sync and what I could do with out (<--most of my wife's ;) ). Another advantage is I have access to it on the IPad as well and I hadn't put any music on it.

So far it works pretty good but has had a couple of choppy moments when in my car on 3G. Sound seems better in some cases where I had lower quality copies.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
A couple of days ago I was trying to film my niece singing to my son when I ran out of storage on my 16GB iPhone. Figured if I remove the 7GB of music I won't have that problem again so I broke down and paid for iTunes Match ($25/year). Now I have access to all my music and my wife's (<--meh - well mostly). That's nice because I had a hard time deciding what I wanted to sync and what I could do with out (<--most of my wife's ;) ). Another advantage is I have access to it on the IPad as well and I hadn't put any music on it.

So far it works pretty good but has had a couple of choppy moments when in my car on 3G. Sound seems better in some cases where I had lower quality copies.
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A friend of mine was telling me about iTunes Match a couple weeks ago. That's a really neat service. Google Music is similar, but isn't quite to the level of iTunes Match yet.
While I obviously prefer Android over iOS, it's nice to have the competition - it leads to better products on both sides.
 
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etmccreary said:
A friend of mine was telling me about iTunes Match a couple weeks ago. That's a really neat service. Google Music is similar, but isn't quite to the level of iTunes Match yet.
While I obviously prefer Android over iOS, it's nice to have the competition - it leads to better products on both sides.
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I thought about using google music but the main drawback is you have to access it thru safari on IOS. I use blutooth in my car which connects and starts playing from the music app automatically. Not sure it would do that coming thru safari. Plus it uploads the actual files which would take way too long for the initial set up, where as iTunes match just uploads your library lists then streams the song to your device from their catalog. If the song is not in the iTunes library then it will upload it. I was up and running with 80% of my music in less than 5 minutes.

I'm with you as far as the competition goes. I doubt I will make a change to Android in the froeseable future but both platforms push the other to continue to innovate I more creative ways. Without that you end up with a single dominant platform like Microsoft windows which even the most ardent Apple haters will admit has more problems than it is worth more than often.
 
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Not sure about iOS, but there seems to be a few apps that can tie into google music now on Android. There might be something similar on iOS that links into your google music catalog and works like a normal playing instead of using Safari. If there isn't, I'd imagine it's only time until there is one or google releases one for iOS.

Both systems are great and a nice use of technology.
 
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From what I understand implementing google music thru a web browser is googles way around the iTunes royalties. When you go to the mobile site it actually has an app appearance. But like you said, it's only a matter of time before user demand requires google to develop a true app for iOS.
 
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Android will continue to hold a large market share simply because there are so many manufacturers that use it. Its like Windows domintates because its the default OS that all manufacturers use. Doesn't mean its the best OS (far from). Android was also available on more carriers for longer, including a year head start on the largest carrier, Verizon. Smart on googles part to increase the rate of diffusion. But just like Windows that doesn't mean it's the better mobile OS.

If you look up individual device sells the iPhone holds the top three spots (to be fair AT&T does give the 3GS away free now). In fact, it sells itself so well that Verizon is restructuring the commission to their sales staff to lead people to 4G devices instead. And considering it only has 3 devices on the market compared to Androids 3 dozen or so yet still holds over a third of the OS market share is impressive. Does that make it the best OS? As this thread proves that is debatable.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Android will continue to hold a large market share simply because there are so many manufacturers that use it. Its like Windows domintates because its the default OS that all manufacturers use. Doesn't mean its the best OS (far from). Android was also available on more carriers for longer, including a year head start on the largest carrier, Verizon. Smart on googles part to increase the rate of diffusion. But just like Windows that doesn't mean it's the better mobile OS.

If you look up individual device sells the iPhone holds the top three spots (to be fair AT&T does give the 3GS away free now). In fact, it sells itself so well that Verizon is restructuring the commission to their sales staff to lead people to 4G devices instead. And considering it only has 3 devices on the market compared to Androids 3 dozen or so yet still holds over a third of the OS market share is impressive. Does that make it the best OS? As this thread proves that is debatable.
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Woah slow down there. I'll agree with the apple stuff on phones. But apple cannot even touch Microsoft when it comes to PCs. Anyone who is serious about computers (aka computer geeks like me) - would be brain dead if they got a Mac over a PC.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
Woah slow down there. I'll agree with the apple stuff on phones. But apple cannot even touch Microsoft when it comes to PCs. Anyone who is serious about computers (aka computer geeks like me) - would be brain dead if they got a Mac over a PC.
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This is really a different topic so I'll just add this and move on.

Most of the hardcore computer geeks I know only "prefer" Windows because they either 1) like to build their computers themselves obviously Apple doesn't let you do that 2) are hardcore gamers and most are exclusive to Windows or 3) all of the above. Then they still complain about current Windows versions and long for the days of the 14 year old XP. Plus, and I'm generalizing, they don't even try OSX.

It took me all of a week to get used to OSX over Windows. Now I just get frustrated when I have to use a Windows machine. And I dont miss the constant updates and ensuing glitches of Windows either. OSX runs so much smoother and navigation is more intuitive.

And to stay on topic, the compatibility with my iphone is unbeatable.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
This is really a different topic so I'll just add this and move on.

Most of the hardcore computer geeks I know only "prefer" Windows because they either 1) like to build their computers themselves obviously Apple doesn't let you do that 2) are hardcore gamers and most are exclusive to Windows or 3) all of the above. Then they still complain about current Windows versions and long for the days of the 14 year old XP. Plus, and I'm generalizing, they don't even try OSX.

It took me all of a week to get used to OSX over Windows. Now I just get frustrated when I have to use a Windows machine. And I dont miss the constant updates and ensuing glitches of Windows either. OSX runs so much smoother and navigation is more intuitive.

And to stay on topic, the compatibility with my iphone is unbeatable.
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Windows 7 is great. I don't long for XP. Vista was a different story. But I skipped over it for that reason.

Not only the things you listed above but I can build my own computer, make it much faster, and over clock it to insane speeds with just the click of a button. And since you can build your own you save at least $1000 and still get a faster machine. Macs can always boot camp and play windows games (my friend does that fine on his) - so that's not really one of the big reasons for me.
 
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