Is Bama next?

#252
#252
SamRebel35 said:
Wow, a couple of $30.00 autographed posters and a practice jersey. Pretty incredible info. Better call Yahoo and break this puppy wide open.
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this the automatic defensive posture that everyone has been ragging bamawriter and got12 about. we do the same thing.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
this the automatic defensive posture that everyone has been ragging bamawriter and got12 about. we do the same thing.
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Not really. I'd be curious to see who is selling that jersey and those posters. I'd be willing to be my paycheck that it isn't a booster.
 
#256
#256
GOT TWELVE? said:
Nor is Albetar, I mean do you guys even read the articles?
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In my reading of the articles the issues with Albetar would be about dinners, suits, and other benefits they may or may not have received from him. Whether he sold signed jerseys or not is secondary if it shows he was giving them free or reduced suits in the first place. Those boys ought to have receipts for such purchases. When they are photographed in the store before Heisman's and NC trips you have to assume they were there for some services.
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#257
#257
according to albetar the players always used large unmarked bills so I doubt there is a paper trail
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#258
I'm taking a 'wait and see' additude on this one. But I must say, all the photos, videos, etc being removed from websites, blocked from imbedding, etc does not give the indication that 'bama has nothing to hide.
 
#259
#259
Orange_Crush said:
I'm taking a 'wait and see' additude on this one. But I must say, all the photos, videos, etc being removed from websites, blocked from imbedding, etc does not give the indication that 'bama has nothing to hide.
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Exactly. if there was nothing to hide why did he take all the pictures down and hide various other stuff. That alone makes you look guilty. Kind of like running from the cops and you did nothing wrong. Why run if your innocent?
 
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GOT TWELVE? said:
tyler bray | eBay
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Big difference..there are tons of alabama auto;s on ebay. Its different if you give players something for them to sign stuff. If you go to media days as a fan or any other kind of function and sell it that is different unless the players is benefiting from it. You are completely missing it. Not that I am shocked most bams are missing the point.
 
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GOT TWELVE? said:
Nor is Albetar, I mean do you guys even read the articles?
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The issue is what did he give the players for their autographs? That is one thing. If indeed he is selling these items and the players knew about it that is completely different. If he has players from the Prothro on up that have signed things, he should have all the players that are still on campus's jerseys and things they signed. He must have an extremly large room to put all those items. I am betting he doesnt have all those items. probably some guy in Tuscaloosa or somewhere else has it hanging above his bed.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
The issue is what did he give the players for their autographs? That is one thing. If indeed he is selling these items and the players knew about it that is completely different. If he has players from the Prothro on up that have signed things, he should have all the players that are still on campus's jerseys and things they signed. He must have an extremly large room to put all those items. I am betting he doesnt have all those items. probably some guy in Tuscaloosa or somewhere else has it hanging above his bed.
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That's a large assumption to make. You're assuming that Albetar's entire collection is in his store. What prevents him from keeping stuff at home?

Plus, I would bet that he unloads a lot of stuff after guys leave campus. There's a Justin Woodall jersey on display in one of the photos taken after we won the NC. Justin is a good kid, but I really doubt Albetar would have kept that around for terribly long.
 
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DD4ME said:
In my reading of the articles the issues with Albetar would be about dinners, suits, and other benefits they may or may not have received from him. Whether he sold signed jerseys or not is secondary if it shows he was giving them free or reduced suits in the first place. Those boys ought to have receipts for such purchases. When they are photographed in the store before Heisman's and NC trips you have to assume they were there for some services.
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How long do you keep your receipts?

None of the photos, other than Ingram in his Heisman ceremony outfit, actually show players wearing or purchasing this guy's suits. I'm not suggesting that none of these guys ever bought from him, but there isn't a photo that leads to that conclusion.
 
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bamawriter said:
That's a large assumption to make. You're assuming that Albetar's entire collection is in his store. What prevents him from keeping stuff at home?

Plus, I would bet that he unloads a lot of stuff after guys leave campus. There's a Justin Woodall jersey on display in one of the photos taken after we won the NC. Justin is a good kid, but I really doubt Albetar would have kept that around for terribly long.
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You are only reading what you want to read. I never said he had it all in his store. That is why I said gameroom. I know gamerooms arent possible in Trailors but in houses they are room designed for autographed items,Widescreen TV's,pooltables, and various other things. i have a Vol room that has tons of Vol autographed stuff I have gotten over the years. I am sure he does unload stuff before and after they are gone. There is no doubt about that. I wish i could but I cant stay on here arguing with you today. All I can say is if nothing comes of this then great, it doesnt effect my life or my being a Vol Fan. And if they do get nailed, then great. I really hope Both AU and UA get nailed. It gets old hearing the 2 fanbases ***** back and forth for 365 days a year. One team cannot stand for the other to get a leg up. You guys wont be happy till your both on probation and have destroyed each other. I personally love and respect the UT/UA rivalry but it wont be much of one by time you those 2 schools are done with each other.
 
#265
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bamawriter said:
How long do you keep your receipts?

None of the photos, other than Ingram in his Heisman ceremony outfit, actually show players wearing or purchasing this guy's suits. I'm not suggesting that none of these guys ever bought from him, but there isn't a photo that leads to that conclusion.
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D---E---N---I---A---L........Either way things will get cleared up. But this is probably just the beginning of UAT's problems. May get much worse just like Auburns will. Hell go ahead and finish each other off, i love our rivalry with Ala but it will only help us with you both determined to ruin each others run.
 
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bamawriter said:
How long do you keep your receipts?

None of the photos, other than Ingram in his Heisman ceremony outfit, actually show players wearing or purchasing this guy's suits. I'm not suggesting that none of these guys ever bought from him, but there isn't a photo that leads to that conclusion.
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Let's see would you want the CC bill or the bank statement showing the 1000 withdrawal because you know good and well you or I and 90% of Americans could do either. When OSU was being investigated didn't the car invoices get pulled? You really think there shouldn't be records from Albetar of suits sold to players?
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#267
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jasonvol18 said:
You are only reading what you want to read.
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I'll admit, I generall skim your long, rambling, non-sequitor-filled posts.

If the general point is at the beginning or end, I'll see it. So if you'd be so kind as to put cliffs notes at the end of your diatribes, it would be greatly appreciated.
 
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DD4ME said:
Let's see would you want the CC bill or the bank statement showing the 1000 withdrawal because you know good and well you or I and 90% of Americans could do either. When OSU was being investigated didn't the car invoices get pulled? You really think there shouldn't be records from Albetar of suits sold to players?
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The Ohio BMV investigated some of the transactions because it appeared that the dealer might have made sales that were improperly taxed (apparently not). While I'm sure these players or the store could easily dig up records, how exactly is the NCAA going to go about getting them?
 
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#269
bamawriter said:
How long do you keep your receipts?

None of the photos, other than Ingram in his Heisman ceremony outfit, actually show players wearing or purchasing this guy's suits. I'm not suggesting that none of these guys ever bought from him, but there isn't a photo that leads to that conclusion.
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So why would you go to a suit store and sign free autographs? What if 1/2 the Auburn NC team had photos on a store owners Facebook account taken in his store? What if those same photos were days before a team trip? Would you still be so optimistic about the intent or relationship? Oh I forgot one of them has photos going to dinner with the guy too, all photos have been pulled, there is a cease and desist sent and he's been disconnected from the program. Still feeling good?
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#270
#270
DD,

The C&D and the disassociation were sent months before any of this was public. Absolutely, this kind of thing looks bad, which is exactly why the school took steps to shut it down. But looking bad simply isn't a violation, and these photos aren't proof of anything.
 
#271
#271
bamawriter said:
I'll admit, I generall skim your long, rambling, non-sequitor-filled posts.

If the general point is at the beginning or end, I'll see it. So if you'd be so kind as to put cliffs notes at the end of your diatribes, it would be greatly appreciated.
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LOL..Go read my long rant up top. It has nothing but truths and facts in it. I know you prob dont read it all because you know its true, but either way its cool. I doubt we will ever be friends or hangout buddies so i am not sweating it too much. you feel the way you do and i feel how i do. But if you think with Alabama's history of wrongdoing and getting caught that they are clean and doing nothing wrong I feel for you. I know damn well Fulmer was crooked and cheating. How the hell he never got caught is beyond me. Maybe it was the help he supplied the NCAA with Ala or Roy Kramer. he was either super smart or very lucky or both. When Ala first got caught they were so damn stupid and arrogant and didnt help the NCAA at all. That is what killed them in the Means case more than anything. they said hey were Alabama we do what we want and it came back and bit them in the ass. Why do you think they work so much better with the NCAA now? They got the right people in there that are much smarter and much less arrogant. They would never go down that path again, its so much easier just to get along with them and give them what they want. But I am still betting they havent turned over everything to them and wont unless they have too.
 
#273
#273
bamawriter said:
DD,

The C&D and the disassociation were sent months before any of this was public. Absolutely, this kind of thing looks bad, which is exactly why the school took steps to shut it down. But looking bad simply isn't a violation, and these photos aren't proof of anything.
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But your missing some of it. It didnt shut him down. If the Ohio ST thing doesnt go down this guy never gets the letter nor had he gotten disassociated. He probably just now does since it came out.But that letter never said for him to stop doing anything at his Suit Store and that is the point Clay Travis and SportsbyBrooks was trying to make. If it was intended for his suitstore he would have probably stopped. But he didnt. I wonder if it comes out that after he was disassociated if he still had contact with the school and players. They better hope nothing like that comes out. But If i was to bet i say it possibly does. I just wonder why this is just now coming out? Did alabama mention this when they admitted their 40 something secondary violations? Does he take all those photo's down off his facebook page if nothing about this comes out? Like i said it may be nothing to it, but he has made it much worse by hiding stuff. Makes no sense to do that if you have nothing to hide.
 
#274
#274
orange parmejohn said:
bamawriter and jasonvol, rd 2..
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LOL..wish I could hang around with him all day and chat, but I have some Clients coming in soon and just cant. Hope something new develops today then i can watch the denial and we did nothing wrong replies.
 
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