Is Barnes the best coach EVER at UT?

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The Dog said:
Maybe it was 3 National Championships, 2 Indoor and one Outdoor, not sure, but I think that's right. Now, I gotta Google it
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Ok, National Championships in '74, '91 and 2001, outdoor. Indoor, 2002. '01 and '02 were with Gatlin
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Any sport?

Look at how he has rebuilt men's basketball. Started by bringing in "diamond in the rough" 2 and 3 star players who were eager to learn and improve. He took some heat from the fan base his first 2 years. Some ignorantly saying he didn't care as much now and was coasting into retirement.

By 2019 that base of players had UT at no. 1 in the rankings for a period of time longer than anyone in recent seasons. Indicative of a head coach AND his staff having top shelf coaching and player development skills. Especially true of our team identity: DEFENSE

2021: those "diamond in the rough" types, unfortunately, only get mop-up time

This might be our most basketball skilled roster ever. Mid 70s rosters had those too. We have more now plus Barnes. I loved Mears. Great coach
Fun teams with a flair! Barnes is in another level of great.

Maybe Summitt. Maybe Broussard. Not Dickey, Majors or Fulmer
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Pearl won with less talent; remember Dane Bradshaw, Steven Pearl, Skylar Mcbee.
 
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The Dog said:
Me, too, completely shocked me, seems like he recruited too many kids that got drafted, iIrc
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He tried to play West Coast ball in the SEC. Strategy didn't work with all the power and runs produced on our league. I ran into 3 or 4 pro scouts at a Padres game four years ago who knew Serrano well, and they said the same thing.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Any sport?

Look at how he has rebuilt men's basketball. Started by bringing in "diamond in the rough" 2 and 3 star players who were eager to learn and improve. He took some heat from the fan base his first 2 years. Some ignorantly saying he didn't care as much now and was coasting into retirement.

By 2019 that base of players had UT at no. 1 in the rankings for a period of time longer than anyone in recent seasons. Indicative of a head coach AND his staff having top shelf coaching and player development skills. Especially true of our team identity: DEFENSE

2021: those "diamond in the rough" types, unfortunately, only get mop-up time

This might be our most basketball skilled roster ever. Mid 70s rosters had those too. We have more now plus Barnes. I loved Mears. Great coach
Fun teams with a flair! Barnes is in another level of great.

Maybe Summitt. Maybe Broussard. Not Dickey, Majors or Fulmer
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I think he's certainly one of the best. The man has far exceeded my expectations. I was sorely disappointed when we hired him, but he's been nothing short of amazing. From the staff he's assembled to the change in the culture surrounding the program, I don't think there's a better coaching job in the country than that of Coach Barnes. If he does decide to retire, I really hope we find a way to put English in that job. I doubt we can hold onto him much longer, but I'd bring him back in a heartbeat. I think he's going to be a star as a head coach.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The Loyola-Chicago game still bothers me. I wouldn't even put him ahead of Pearl, until he has at least made an Elite 8. Though, I will say that Barnes is a better representative of the University than Pearl... certainly when it comes to integrity.
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Kyle Alexander missing that game killed us and Derrick Walker was lost, as his replacement. Plus, that nun was selling her soul to Satan for that brick to bounce in and that Final 4 run
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I might burn for this... but she really got on my nerves. She was annoying.
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Well, me too, but it was a good story, I can understand the media over doing it. But when your team loses by a shot that bounces 3 times off the rim, backboard and rim, then goes in, it sucks. Then u have to see it, everytime they play, over and over with the nun's reaction, it gets old, fast
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Any sport?

Look at how he has rebuilt men's basketball. Started by bringing in "diamond in the rough" 2 and 3 star players who were eager to learn and improve. He took some heat from the fan base his first 2 years. Some ignorantly saying he didn't care as much now and was coasting into retirement.

By 2019 that base of players had UT at no. 1 in the rankings for a period of time longer than anyone in recent seasons. Indicative of a head coach AND his staff having top shelf coaching and player development skills. Especially true of our team identity: DEFENSE

2021: those "diamond in the rough" types, unfortunately, only get mop-up time

This might be our most basketball skilled roster ever. Mid 70s rosters had those too. We have more now plus Barnes. I loved Mears. Great coach
Fun teams with a flair! Barnes is in another level of great.

Maybe Summitt. Maybe Broussard. Not Dickey, Majors or Fulmer
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Summitt and General Neyland for sure
 
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My vote goes as follows ;
Neyland
Summit
Mears
Barnes

Barnes >Mears only if he takes UT further in the Tournament.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Time at UT:

Coach A: 3 NCAA tourney wins. 104-63 in 5+ seasons. 2 NCAA appearances in 5 years

Coach B: 89-36. 3 NCAA tourney wins. 4 NCAA appearances in 4 years.

Coach A is Barnes. Coach B is Jerry Green. Not saying Green > Barnes but let's not let a strong start change reality.

To answer your question, Barnes is nowhere near Pat, Neyland, etc..
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The only difference is that Green was handed a stacked roster. Maybe as talented and deep as any team ever at UT. Barnes was handed a depleted roster that averaged about 6’4. What Barnes has done for our basketball program and UT athletics overall is hard to imagine.
 
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The Dog said:
Delmonico was up and down as a coach here, some wanted him gone, I get that, but, disagree. Seems like he would struggle 2 or 3 years and then make a run, just in time to save his job. Never thought of UT as a baseball powerhouse, so I enjoyed the runs, but can understand people wanting more consistency. Still, it hit rock bottom for a decade after we fired him. The future looks good, tho under Tony V
Edit: or did I miss your whole meaning ?
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Just seemed curious he never really got much of an opportunity elsewhere and left the country.
 
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My top 5 in order: 1.Summitt 2.Neyland 3.Fulmer 4.Mears 5.Weekly’s. Barnes is closing fast tho. If he coaches another 5 years I’d say he would likely move past Mears.
 
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aWhiteLoftonChism said:
The only difference is that Green was handed a stacked roster. Maybe as talented and deep as any team ever at UT. Barnes was handed a depleted roster that averaged about 6’4. What Barnes has done for our basketball program and UT athletics overall is hard to imagine.
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He does seem to have refocused the entire Department.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
We werent making the tourney last year. I'm not saying Green is better than Barnes but it's crazy to think Barnes accomplishments at UT are the greatest of all time in any sport.

Barnes is still behind Bruce and Mears for UT accomplishments. He will likely pass both if he stays for a few more years but he wont approach Neyland or Pat
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Green coasted on players that weren't his. I didn't even enjoy (much) basketball when he was coach. Totally different scenario now.

Barnes needs to start getting to final 4's and winning the SEC Tourney to reach the upper echelon. I hope he stays at it long enough to do that.
 
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OldandStillaVol said:
If you include all sports, Stan Huntsman, UT track coach in the 70's-80's was top notch. I think he was the US Olympics track and field coach also at one point. We were the dominant mens track team in the SEC for quite awhile.
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Couldn't remember his name is why he wasn't mentioned.
 
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ColinS said:
Pat was great but when other schools started trying to win in women's college basketball she declined which of course was bound to happen. Not saying she wasn't a great coach just that the numbers are bit inflated by lack of competition.
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She built the program starting from a closet of an office in her early/mid 20s, washing uniforms herself, and driving players in a van to away games. She went a long way in creating her competition by advocating & putting the sport on the map. Any "decline" at the end of her career was likely due to preliminary stages of early-onset Alzheimer's. Such a loss for our University. Wish she was still with us, healthy, & maybe even AD. Doubt she'd put up with what's going on in a certain sector of UT Sports right now.
 
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