Is Cam Newton better than Tim Tebow?

Who's the better QB?

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#51
#51
BigPapaVol said:
Addazio is current scapegoat for many recruiting busts and trying to fit a square QB into a round offense.
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Trying to fit a square peg into a round hole IS Addazio's fault, he's the OC. Brantley was running the same offense Tebow did last season.

UF's offensive line was awful, in spite of returning 4 starters. Addazio is the o-line coach.

The buck stops with Meyer, but even Ray Charles' rotting corpse could see UF's offense was garbage. Hell it was garbage last year, we just had NFL-ready talent elevating it to look average.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Trying to fit a square peg into a round hole IS Addazio's fault, he's the OC. Brantley was running the same offense Tebow did last season.

If he believed there to be a better option to run the system, I'm certain that kid would be in the ballgame. There is no option. Recruiting a horse of a pocket QB and losing Cam hurt, period.

UF's offensive line was awful, in spite of returning 4 starters. Addazio is the o-line coach.

Wasn't he the line coach when that crew was blocking for Tebow? Lack of capable RBs behind a line built to essentially run the power veer and limited passing game is a disaster for a line. Doesn't help that many on that line underperform. Have to lay that at the feet of Addazio and the players.

The buck stops with Meyer, but even Ray Charles' rotting corpse could see UF's offense was garbage. Hell it was garbage last year, we just had NFL-ready talent making it look average.
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See Bold.

Mullen, right or wrong, comes out of this season as the shining star in UFs recent past successes.
 
#54
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BigPapaVol said:
See Bold.

Mullen, right or wrong, comes out of this season as the shining star in UFs recent past successes.
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I don't totally disagree with you there, although Addazio never had the luxury of having Tebow hand the ball off to Percy Harvin. You can't argue with what Mullen's done at MSU.

Recruiting a horse of a pocket QB under the assumption that we'd see the offense Chris Leak ran in '06, that's still on Addazio and the coaching staff. They made no attempts to alter the offense, other than having Brantley play on passing downs and Burton/Reed on running downs.

There's no doubt losing Cam hurt, but there's no way he'd be as effective running Addazio's high school offense had he stayed at UF.
 
#55
#55
I don't understand why Newton would be less effective, given that Auburn probably has two other offensive starters that would see the field at UF.
 
#56
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BigPapaVol said:
I don't understand why Newton would be less effective, given that Auburn probably has two other offensive starters that would see the field at UF.
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Dyer, Fanin, Lutzenkircher (sp?) and any of AU's receivers would see plenty of PT at UF. McCalleb would get cancelled out by Demps and/or Rainey, but that's about it.

The issue with UF's offense begins and ends with the offensive line. At the beginning of the season I'd be inclined to agree that none of AU's starters on the o-line could start at UF. Now? Not so much.
 
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#57
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BigPapaVol said:
I don't understand why Newton would be less effective, given that Auburn probably has two other offensive starters that would see the field at UF.
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auburn's oline is unbelievable though. cam never gets touched. much better than florida's.
 
#59
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BigPapaVol said:
Addazio is current scapegoat for many recruiting busts and trying to fit a square QB into a round offense.
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This.


This mockery of a season is just as much Urban's fault as it is anyone else's. More so in my opinion.

Blame Addazio if you wish. Meyer hired em, and then promoted the clown over long time friend Billy Gonzalez.
 
#62
#62
Tebow was a great competitor but.....

Cam Newton is more talented by far.
AU's O-line is experienced and very good.
AU's offense is well coached, much better than UF's.
AU has a back that can run between the tackles and a back that can get to the edge, that pressures the defense and opens up alot of doors for Newton.


add all that up and you get a year like Newton is having.
 
#63
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LSMvols said:
Malzahn's "philosophy" actually makes sense. "Cloudy mind equals slow feet"
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It's great when you have a horse like Newton.

When the QB isn't a threat to run, the scheme doesn't slow down the pass rush near as much.
 
#64
#64
This is easily won by Newton. look what type of team Tebow played on compared to AU. UF was already loaded and AU is still reloading and Cam is killin on the field plus his throws are some of the best I have ever seen compared to the greats like young and vick imo
 
#65
#65
Newton is easily better than Tebow.

First off, Tebow's running ability was vastly overrated, he was simply a FB in that aspect, he would get you the tough yards. Newton on the other hand can get the tough yards but he can also take it to the house at any time.

Passing ability goes to Cam as well, he is more accurate and has a better arm. Bioth were/are in systems that produce huge passing windows, still yet, Cam has shown that he can make all the throws. Tim also had better talent on his team. Except for RB.

As for leadership qualities, this was Tebow's greatest asset, he got his team fired up and they rallied behind him. Cam seems more reserved but has gotten the job done in the clutch several times this year, so to me, it is a push here, maybe you can give Tim the edge.

Tebow does have a title to his credit though, Cam will have to play out of his mind for Auburn to beat Oregon, we shall see.
 
#66
#66
Volwark said:
I'm 34, so yes I do remember Herschel. When I consider the team around him, and when Cam comes in and just dominates and there's no answer for him, then I put him above Herschel.
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Disagree. You were between 4-6 years old when Herschel dominated college football. UGA's offense was Herschel and 10 warm bodies. Newton has much more talent around him now than Walker did then.

Both are great players, and I was dead wrong about Newton at the beginning of the season, but Walker is considered by many as the greatest college football player of all-time. I tend to agree with that.
 
#71
#71
Lawrence Wright said:
In '06 UF lost to an AU squad nowhere near as talented as this year's team.

And Newton would throw for 700 yards against UF's '07 defense.
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06 UF d kept getting better. Would not lose to this squad.

07 squad might score 423 against AU.
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#72
#72
I said Tebow because in the end Cam Newton's probably not going to have any stats from this year in the record books.


Just sayin'.
 
#75
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BigPapaVol said:
UF 07 d was better than AU and the O was better.
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Please...UF's '07 D was bad against the run and worse against the pass. Stafford and Chad Henne lit us up through the air, and Newton would likely do the same. True frosh Joe Haden got thrown into the fray and got burnt often, and the other corner Pierre-Louis couldn't cover an ant with a beach blanket. No Reggie Nelson playing centerfield either. That defense was easily UF'S worst under Meyer, yet you think they contain Newton?
 
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