Is Hopson gone.....

#29
#29
I don't think he makes a big difference either way. We need other players to step up. This year was an example of how far he gets us as the leader.
 
#30
#30
I'm just baffled at the idea that a perimeter player with as bad a handle as Hopson's could have any kind of an NBA career. Maybe I'm wrong.

That said, if I'm Hopson and the coach who's spent three years coddling me gets replaced by somebody who preaches work ethic and intense defensive effort, I can't get out of town fast enough. I'd probably have no interest in spending a year getting my ass kicked.
 
#32
#32
Vercingetorix said:
I'm just baffled at the idea that a perimeter player with as bad a handle as Hopson's could have any kind of an NBA career. Maybe I'm wrong.

That said, if I'm Hopson and the coach who's spent three years coddling me gets replaced by somebody who preaches work ethic and intense defensive effort, I can't get out of town fast enough. I'd probably have no interest in spending a year getting my ass kicked.
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And yet his only hope for any kind of future in the association is that Cuonzo would spend the next year doing just that.
 
#33
#33
Sudeepvol said:
Remember when everyone on here used to bash JP Prince during the season last year? Those same people wished we had him this year. Same thing is gonna happen with Hopson.
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JP was a much better defender, gave more effort and wasn't a turnover machine either. I agree Hopson is a great offensive threat & shooter when he is on but inconsistency plagued him throughout the year. Unfortunately he never played consistent defense which he could've done whenever he wanted. I would like to have him back because I think CCM would bring out the best in him and make him a better all around player.
 
#34
#34
JP and Scotty have nothing in common. Except for the ability to salute after a dunk.
 
#35
#35
Sudeepvol said:
Remember when everyone on here used to bash JP Prince during the season last year? Those same people wished we had him this year. Same thing is gonna happen with Hopson.
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I'd rather not have a guy on the roster at all than to have the entire offense depend on him and have him check out as regularly as Hopson did.
 
#37
#37
Our fans are awfully hard on our only 1st team all SEC player that avg 19 ppg and shot 40% from three during SEC play. Yes he needs some work on ball handling but he did alot of great things for the Vols this yr.
 
#38
#38
Maybe because he disappeared at the end of the season in the games that counted most? Just a hunch.
 
#39
#39
volbeast33 said:
Our fans are awfully hard on our only 1st team all SEC player that avg 19 ppg and shot 40% from three during SEC play. Yes he needs some work on ball handling but he did alot of great things for the Vols this yr.
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Not hard on him just truthful. I like Hopson but he isn't NBA material right now and has some holes in his game that if he had another year to work on under a hard nosed coach might raise his draft status. I would like him back because the team is and would be better with him. He can always go to Europe in '12.
 
#40
#40
He's in NJ and not in school. He must be taking online classes - right?
 
#41
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volbeast33 said:
Our fans are awfully hard on our only 1st team all SEC player that avg 19 ppg and shot 40% from three during SEC play. Yes he needs some work on ball handling but he did alot of great things for the Vols this yr.
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At times Hopson is an incandescent offensive talent. At other times, you can barely tell when he's on the floor. How's a team supposed to prepare for games with a guy like that in the lineup?

I want Hopson back as much as the next guy, and I think he might really benefit from working under a hardass for a year, but having your best scoring option be as inconsistent as Hopson consistently is is a team killer.
 
#42
#42
I don't recall seeing any ballhandling problems most of the season. Scotty struggled a bit towards the end of out of conference play and dominated during SEC play. He regressed a bit during postseason play but it appeared the entire team did considering we lost by 30 to a mediocre Big Ten team that we had no business losing to. He and the team played pretty well this year considering all the distractions.

Do I think he could benefit from another year. Yes. I think he would be much improved under Martin on offense, defense, and attitude-wise. I certainly don't fault him for attempting to go now. He'd have a solid enough shot at latching on somewhere.

Standard Scotty hate though, I've grown pretty used to it and I suppose it's understandable considering all that has happened to Tennessee basketball.
 
#43
#43
TooLegit2Quit said:
I don't recall seeing any ballhandling problems most of the season. Scotty struggled a bit towards the end of out of conference play and dominated during SEC play. He regressed a bit during postseason play but it appeared the entire team did considering we lost by 30 to a mediocre Big Ten team that we had no business losing to. He and the team played pretty well this year considering all the distractions.

Do I think he could benefit from another year. Yes. I think he would be much improved under Martin on offense, defense, and attitude-wise. I certainly don't fault him for attempting to go now. He'd have a solid enough shot at latching on somewhere.

Standard Scotty hate though, I've grown pretty used to it and I suppose it's understandable considering all that has happened to Tennessee basketball.
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#44
#44
My apologies. Ballhandling problems should've mixed in with the bit mentioning his struggles during the 2nd half of our non-conference stretch. He didn't have any problems with it during SEC play where he was able to get to the basket at will. I'd say he was pretty consistent all year, definitely much improved over last year. A little over a month ago the general feeling on this forum was that Scotty was ready and gone. The postseason happens and now he's destined for Europe. Martin would be good for Scotty, an NBA staff would be better.
 
#45
#45
OrangeInKy said:
Kevin Ware tweets similiar things about being a VFL weekly. I am fine with Hopson going. Harris is the one who I would be upset about. I would like Hopson to stay and I think the new staff could help him but I don't know if he could handle them. I think they would be much tougher on him than the previous staff was, imo.
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#46
#46
TooLegit2Quit said:
My apologies. Ballhandling problems should've mixed in with the bit mentioning his struggles during the 2nd half of our non-conference stretch. He didn't have any problems with it during SEC play where he was able to get to the basket at will. I'd say he was pretty consistent all year, definitely much improved over last year. A little over a month ago the general feeling on this forum was that Scotty was ready and gone. The postseason happens and now he's destined for Europe. Martin would be good for Scotty, an NBA staff would be better.
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Even during the stretch where he was playing outstandingly, he still had a couple of turnovers a game where he dribbled the ball off his foot, inexplicably lost the handle and had it just bounce out of his reach, or some similar mishap. He's a good shooter and he's got an explosive two-bounce drive to the basket, but any time he has to handle the ball more than those two bounces then you have to hold your breath. He has simply got to improve that if he's planning to have any kind of a career playing basketball.

Hopson was inconsistent for two years, then good at the beginning of this past season, then inconsistent while the team drifted during out of conference play, then really good for about 12-15 games, then vanished again at the end of the season. It's not just "standard Scotty hate" to discuss how he didn't show up much of the time.
 
#47
#47
Agree to disagree I suppose. I think Scotty's ballhandling problems are really exaggerated, especially around here. Yes, he had some terrible turnovers at times this past season. But I'd say the 2nd half of the season those problems were corrected.

Scotty's problem is discipline, which it's pretty obvious the team has lacked with Bruce at the helm. I don't really see that being an issue in the NBA, if it is he'll obviously be playing elsewhere.

Wasn't labeling everyone a hater obviously, but there are quite a few people being ridiculously hard on Hopson and insulting a guy that represented the University of Tennessee well. I just don't get, especially when he hasn't even formally announced he's going.
 
#48
#48
TooLegit2Quit said:
Agree to disagree I suppose. I think Scotty's ballhandling problems are really exaggerated, especially around here. Yes, he had some terrible turnovers at times this past season. But I'd say the 2nd half of the season those problems were corrected.

Scotty's problem is discipline, which it's pretty obvious the team has lacked with Bruce at the helm. I don't really see that being an issue in the NBA, if it is he'll obviously be playing elsewhere.

Wasn't labeling everyone a hater obviously, but there are quite a few people being ridiculously hard on Hopson and insulting a guy that represented the University of Tennessee well. I just don't get, especially when he hasn't even formally announced he's going.
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I agree that Hopson's issue is discipline. I don't think anyone doubts his abilities, I think it's a discipline/attitude issue. IMO, I have no inside knowledge. Feel that it is always necc to add that part
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#49
#49
Sudeepvol said:
Remember when everyone on here used to bash JP Prince during the season last year? Those same people wished we had him this year. Same thing is gonna happen with Hopson.
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DING DING DING!!! We have a winner. Perimeter defense and the ability to feed the post from the wing were sorely missed this season
 
#50
#50
TooLegit2Quit said:
Agree to disagree I suppose. I think Scotty's ballhandling problems are really exaggerated, especially around here. Yes, he had some terrible turnovers at times this past season. But I'd say the 2nd half of the season those problems were corrected.

Scotty's problem is discipline, which it's pretty obvious the team has lacked with Bruce at the helm. I don't really see that being an issue in the NBA, if it is he'll obviously be playing elsewhere.

Wasn't labeling everyone a hater obviously, but there are quite a few people being ridiculously hard on Hopson and insulting a guy that represented the University of Tennessee well. I just don't get, especially when he hasn't even formally announced he's going.
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I generally don't hate on kids who chose to play at my alma mater, unless they get in some sort of excessive legal trouble or something. But I do think that, at this level, their on-court/field play is open to criticism. You can call it discipline or attitude or work ethic or whatever you want, depending on how damning you want to be, but the simple fact is that Hopson has had bad a habit of vanishing on the floor at times. And when the team depends on him like this year's team did, that's going to lead to some intense criticism. There's not much that's going to get scorn heaped on you worse than not appearing to give effort while the team is losing.
 
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