Is it ever Holly's Fault?

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I just have a question? Has any one who has watched the press conferences this season (or since Holly has been coaching) Blame herself or her coaching staff? She has been quick to point out the players and single out what certain ones are not doing but has she every taken the blame for what she isn't doing?
 
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mlindsay said:
I just have a question? Has any one who has watched the press conferences this season (or since Holly has been coaching) Blame herself or her coaching staff? She has been quick to point out the players and single out what certain ones are not doing but has she every taken the blame for what she isn't doing?
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I don't watch the pressers so I can't comment but there are so many in this forum reporting on what she said that I am not compelled to watch it personally. Lets see if I got this right….

1. Holly can't be a good coach because she does not communicate well during the press conference (just like Steven Hawkings can't communicate well during his press conferences). Hey, some pretty good people do not speak well in front of others but that does not make them incompetent unless they are the HC of the LV's,

2. Holly can't be a good coach because she tries to be honest during the press conference rather than resorting to "coach speak." When someone asks her a question, she tries to answer it with the knowledge she has at the moment rather than deferring until she can go over film and speak with the players,

3. Holly can't be a good coach because she does not recognize all those coaching professionals who post in VolNation and do what they recommend,

4. Holly can't be a good coach because she will not step down like some VolNation posters want her to.
 
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Rickster said:
I don't watch the pressers so I can't comment but there are so many in this forum reporting on what she said that I am not compelled to watch it personally. Lets see if I got this right….

1. Holly can't be a good coach because she does not communicate well during the press conference (just like Steven Hawkings can't communicate well during his press conferences). Hey, some pretty good people do not speak well in front of others but that does not make them incompetent unless they are the HC of the LV's,

2. Holly can't be a good coach because she tries to be honest during the press conference rather than resorting to "coach speak." When someone asks her a question, she tries to answer it with the knowledge she has at the moment rather than deferring until she can go over film and speak with the players,

3. Holly can't be a good coach because she does not recognize all those coaching professionals who post in VolNation and do what they recommend,

4. Holly can't be a good coach because she will not step down like some VolNation posters want her to.
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I've never said she can't be a good coach, I think she is a good coach, just not a good head coach. She has shown that she can't handle the duties of a head coach. Imo. She is/was great at assisting Coach Pat Summit but now that she has to run the show, she is not getting it done imo.
 
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Rickster said:
1. Holly can't be a good coach because she does not communicate well during the press conference (just like Steven Hawkings can't communicate well during his press conferences). Hey, some pretty good people do not speak well in front of others but that does not make them incompetent unless they are the HC of the LV's,
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It's Hawking, not Hawkings.
You wouldn't say Albert Einsteins would you?
 
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is Rickster just Ivy League in drag?

somebody check out his wall for a grad plague(sp?)
 
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Rickster said:
I don't watch the pressers so I can't comment but there are so many in this forum reporting on what she said that I am not compelled to watch it personally. Lets see if I got this right….

1. Holly can't be a good coach because she does not communicate well during the press conference (just like Steven Hawkings can't communicate well during his press conferences). Hey, some pretty good people do not speak well in front of others but that does not make them incompetent unless they are the HC of the LV's,

2. Holly can't be a good coach because she tries to be honest during the press conference rather than resorting to "coach speak." When someone asks her a question, she tries to answer it with the knowledge she has at the moment rather than deferring until she can go over film and speak with the players,

3. Holly can't be a good coach because she does not recognize all those coaching professionals who post in VolNation and do what they recommend,

4. Holly can't be a good coach because she will not step down like some VolNation posters want her to.
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I honestly don't know how anyone can defend Holly after watching her team this year. Even former "teammates" and good friends of Holly have major concerns about her head-coaching abilities.

We're (the fans who aren't blinded simply because HW played for and coached with Pat) saying Holly can't head coach because of the following:

- can't motivate (our worst quarter this year has been the third)

- can't strategize (Jimmy Dykes is a lifelong man-to-man defensive coach but knew, like most coaches now know, Holly can't or won't make the adjustments for her team to be successful versus the zone

- can't teach offense ... no explanation needed, just look at the box scores

- can't separate wanting to be loved by everyone from being hard nosed, determined and tough

- can't find a sensible, successful player rotation after half a season (why?)

- can't recruit ... last year's class (Cooper and Jackson) looks like a major fail at the moment and there is no 2016 class (epic, historic fail).

Do you really need more, Rickster?

Please tell us what makes you think Holly should keep her job? And really, you're comparing Hawking's situation with Holly's press-conference circus shows?
 
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randyvol said:
why do they absolutely refuse to recruit shooters!
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Actually we do, they just don't come here, and for this reason alone, our coaching staff preaches, pound the ball inside. If you are a outside shooter who likes to score/shoot, Tennessee's offense doesn't match up to your style of play!
 
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Rickster said:
I don't watch the pressers so I can't comment but there are so many in this forum reporting on what she said that I am not compelled to watch it personally. Lets see if I got this right….

1. Holly can't be a good coach because she does not communicate well during the press conference (just like Steven Hawkings can't communicate well during his press conferences). Hey, some pretty good people do not speak well in front of others but that does not make them incompetent unless they are the HC of the LV's,

2. Holly can't be a good coach because she tries to be honest during the press conference rather than resorting to "coach speak." When someone asks her a question, she tries to answer it with the knowledge she has at the moment rather than deferring until she can go over film and speak with the players,

3. Holly can't be a good coach because she does not recognize all those coaching professionals who post in VolNation and do what they recommend,

4. Holly can't be a good coach because she will not step down like some VolNation posters want her to.
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She isn't a good head coach, so what is your point?
 
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randyvol said:
why do they absolutely refuse to recruit shooters!
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I don't know if they don't recruit shooters or just haven't been able to sign any but you do bring up a good point.
Dunbar is the only player on the roster who was recognized as a "shooter" in high school. (and she has other deficiencies)
Even Cooper and DeShields, as talented as thy are, were not known for their outside shooting. ND has recruited a team full of outside shooters. None ranked higher than Cooper or Deshields and look how that has turned out for them. Of course, they have a pretty good coach too.
 
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Voldon18 said:
Do you really need more, Rickster?

Please tell us what makes you think Holly should keep her job? And really, you're comparing Hawking's situation with Holly's press-conference circus shows?
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To answer your question, I really don't need anything from you and I doubt you are able to give me anything that I would find useful to help me get through life.

I never ever said Holly should keep her job. What I have said that it is not up to me or other VolNation posters to say she should be fired. That is a management function and should be handled by management.

Additionally, all this hate being spewed after losses just gives the people who really hate the university more ammunition to hurt us in recruiting. One would think that someone older than 15 would know that.

And yes, I am comparing her to anyone who does not speak well in front of others…inclusive. Not everyone can be a keyboard warrior and say what they like regardless of whether it is the truth or lies or whether it is hurtful or not. We leave this up to a select few who have anointed themselves as the supreme authority on whether a person has a job or not.
 
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randyvol said:
why do they absolutely refuse to recruit shooters!
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If you were a good shooter, would you want to play for the worst offensive coach in the SEC especially if you had much better options? This is as far as most of these girls will ever play so I don't blame them for wanting to play for a better coach. Right now they are being coached by sympathy hire who is there only because she was so "loyal" to Coach Summit.
 
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Rickster said:
To answer your question, I really don't need anything from you and I doubt you are able to give me anything that I would find useful to help me get through life.

I never ever said Holly should keep her job. What I have said that it is not up to me or other VolNation posters to say she should be fired. That is a management function and should be handled by management.

Additionally, all this hate being spewed after losses just gives the people who really hate the university more ammunition to hurt us in recruiting. One would think that someone older than 15 would know that.

And yes, I am comparing her to anyone who does not speak well in front of others…inclusive. Not everyone can be a keyboard warrior and say what they like regardless of whether it is the truth or lies or whether it is hurtful or not. We leave this up to a select few who have anointed themselves as the supreme authority on whether a person has a job or not.
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The product on the court will negatively recruit in and of itself, no words need to be spoken.
 
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This team's performance is definitely her fault. She is letting them play an offense that none of them have the ability to play effectively. Game after game players put up shots that they have not proved they can make. Three players put up 36 shots last night made 9 that is a loss every time.
This team must get most of their shots in the paint. They went from scoring 50 in the paint versus Auburn to 26 last night. This team cannot shoot well enough from the outside to not be working for the closer shots.
It is up to the coach to make sure they put themselves in positions where they can be successful. As long as Diamond and Cooper are pumping up the long jumpers not going to happen.
Supreme collapse in the third quarter but the story of the game is 34 percent shooting as a team. Holly can talk about defense all she wants but 34 percent is not going to win many games.
 
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landscapingvol said:
If you were a good shooter, would you want to play for the worst offensive coach in the SEC especially if you had much better options? This is as far as most of these girls will ever play so I don't blame them for wanting to play for a better coach. Right now they are being coached by sympathy hire who is there only because she was so "loyal" to Coach Summit.
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Probably why Virginia Tech didnt promote Bud Foster to HC -- knew he wasnt qualified even though he was loyal to Beamer for like 21 years
 
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mlindsay said:
I just have a question? Has any one who has watched the press conferences this season (or since Holly has been coaching) Blame herself or her coaching staff? She has been quick to point out the players and single out what certain ones are not doing but has she every taken the blame for what she isn't doing?
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This is exactly what Dooley did, right? This behavior will cause mutiny in the locker room to where the players will purposely lose to Ky. just to see you lose your job OR they will get blown out by Vandy so you will lose your job.
 
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Voldon18 said:
I honestly don't know how anyone can defend Holly after watching her team this year. Even former "teammates" and good friends of Holly have major concerns about her head-coaching abilities.

We're (the fans who aren't blinded simply because HW played for and coached with Pat) saying Holly can't head coach because of the following:

- can't motivate (our worst quarter this year has been the third)

- can't strategize (Jimmy Dykes is a lifelong man-to-man defensive coach but knew, like most coaches now know, Holly can't or won't make the adjustments for her team to be successful versus the zone

- can't teach offense ... no explanation needed, just look at the box scores

- can't separate wanting to be loved by everyone from being hard nosed, determined and tough

- can't find a sensible, successful player rotation after half a season (why?)

- can't recruit ... last year's class (Cooper and Jackson) looks like a major fail at the moment and there is no 2016 class (epic, historic fail).

Do you really need more, Rickster?

Please tell us what makes you think Holly should keep her job? And really, you're comparing Hawking's situation with Holly's press-conference circus shows?
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You are exactly correct. The head coach is responsible for the play of the team. Recruiting, practice, teaching, game planning, and bench coaching all fall to the head coach, period.
 
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gule said:
is Rickster just Ivy League in drag?
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Don't know what happened to him/her. I take it IL was female otherwise your question above does not make sense. I suspect she just got tired of all the negative rants and decided to no longer associate with it. Can't really blame her. I think she loved the team and could not stand to read most of the stuff that is posted here.
 
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PS was always hard on the girls and who was the coach who would go up to the girls and tell them it was going to be alright...Holly....I mean the girls didn't even call her CW they called her Holly.....She only got the job because she was loyal to PS.....I have no idea what she was doing as an assistant coach obviously she wasn't learning much just being the players friend
 
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Lady Vols are a shell of their past. The program has been destroyed and it starts at the top.
 
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