Is Judaism a Race

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Vol8188 said:
How openly racist do you get to be on a cable network? I have no problem with a network determining that for themselves.
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If you're Megyn Kelly and ask as question about black face being acceptable decades ago as long you dressed as a character vs. Jimmy Kimmel dressing up as Karl Malone on his Man Show. One was let go by NBC the other has a late night show on ABC.

Joy Reid and Don Lemon are both openly racist on live TV and are allowed a platform. One is being let go this summer while the other one is going to be a male Oprah type host on CNN plus with an audience. Which means he is out of work in a year as they are struggling to find a spot for him as rating drop year over year.
 
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MontyPython said:
So Whoopi Goldberg is suspended for 2 weeks from her TV show for making the following comment:

“Let’s be truthful about it because the Holocaust isn’t about race. No. It’s not about race!”

Whoopi was then called out for defining the basis of the Holocaust as the Jewish "race".

ABC News president Kim Godwin announced on Tuesday, “Effective immediately, I am suspending Whoopi Goldberg for two weeks for her wrong and hurtful comments,” Godwin said.

Whoopi apologized.

In a note to staff, ABC News prez Kim Godwin says, "While Whoopi has apologized, I’ve asked her to take time to reflect and learn about the impact of her comments. The entire ABC News organization stands in solidarity with our Jewish colleagues, friends, family and communities.”

Help me out here... how is Judaism a race? I'm the color (READ: RACE) that I am. Pretty confident I cannot at anytime change my race. Yet, at anytime I can convert to Judaism and become a "Jew". Right?!?

So, then, how is Whoopi wrong when she says the Holocaust is NOT based on race? Seems to me, Hitler hated people of the Jewish faith, hence the basis for the Holocaust. He hated them because of their religious beliefs, not the color of their skin (READ: RACE). Right?

Hmmm. So, I Google the question, "Is Judaism a race?".

Here are quotes from the articles:

First source: "Jews in the City":

"Religion, of course, is a belief system.

So where does Judaism fit into these categories?

Race, insofar as it exists at all, is a function of DNA. While there is a cluster of genes associated with being Jewish, non-Jewish people can possess those genes, and there are entire Jewish communities that don’t have them (presumably because these communities became isolated before those haplotype markers entered the DNA). Finally, a person can’t change his race but a person who isn’t Jewish can become Jewish. So it’s not looking good to define Judaism as a race.[1]

...So, if Judaism is not a race, nor an ethnicity, nor is it limited to religion, then what is it?"

Next source: "The AISH Rabbi Responds":

"To categorize Judaism "only" as a religion is a misunderstanding. The Jewish people are a nation, who share a common land (Israel), a common religion (Judaism) and a common history (dating back to Abraham).

What is amazing is how the Jews have maintained their distinct national identity having been scattered to the four corners of the globe. This achievement was possible only because of our adherence to the Torah, the "constitution" of the Jewish people. The Torah lays out the scope of personal rights and obligations, as well as laws covering lifecycle, business practice, medical ethics, parenting, married life, etc. Observance of the Torah was thus the thread which kept the Jewish people alive, and thriving, in every place and time.

Judaism cannot be classified as a race, because anyone can become a Jew by converting. The convert is considered a Jew in every regard, and his relationship with God is the same level as that of every other Jew. Come to Israel and you will find black Jews, oriental Jews, Indian Jews, etc."

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Mkay. I give up.

Not trying to be "racist" here. I could care less what other people's religious beliefs are as long as they don't impede on my life.

So how is Whoopi wrong? How is this not cancel culture at its worst?

Given that I am Christian, is it now politically correct to refer to me as belonging to the "Christian race"?

Taking this one step further, if one were to argue that Judaism is a race but Christianity isn't, then ironically how is this not - in fact - racist?
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Let me break it down for you...
Whoopi and "The View" cast are all Liberal Morons.
 
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MontyPython said:
So Whoopi Goldberg is suspended for 2 weeks from her TV show for making the following comment:

“Let’s be truthful about it because the Holocaust isn’t about race. No. It’s not about race!”

Whoopi was then called out for defining the basis of the Holocaust as the Jewish "race".

ABC News president Kim Godwin announced on Tuesday, “Effective immediately, I am suspending Whoopi Goldberg for two weeks for her wrong and hurtful comments,” Godwin said.

Whoopi apologized.

In a note to staff, ABC News prez Kim Godwin says, "While Whoopi has apologized, I’ve asked her to take time to reflect and learn about the impact of her comments. The entire ABC News organization stands in solidarity with our Jewish colleagues, friends, family and communities.”

Help me out here... how is Judaism a race? I'm the color (READ: RACE) that I am. Pretty confident I cannot at anytime change my race. Yet, at anytime I can convert to Judaism and become a "Jew". Right?!?

So, then, how is Whoopi wrong when she says the Holocaust is NOT based on race? Seems to me, Hitler hated people of the Jewish faith, hence the basis for the Holocaust. He hated them because of their religious beliefs, not the color of their skin (READ: RACE). Right?

Hmmm. So, I Google the question, "Is Judaism a race?".

Here are quotes from the articles:

First source: "Jews in the City":

"Religion, of course, is a belief system.

So where does Judaism fit into these categories?

Race, insofar as it exists at all, is a function of DNA. While there is a cluster of genes associated with being Jewish, non-Jewish people can possess those genes, and there are entire Jewish communities that don’t have them (presumably because these communities became isolated before those haplotype markers entered the DNA). Finally, a person can’t change his race but a person who isn’t Jewish can become Jewish. So it’s not looking good to define Judaism as a race.[1]

...So, if Judaism is not a race, nor an ethnicity, nor is it limited to religion, then what is it?"

Next source: "The AISH Rabbi Responds":

"To categorize Judaism "only" as a religion is a misunderstanding. The Jewish people are a nation, who share a common land (Israel), a common religion (Judaism) and a common history (dating back to Abraham).

What is amazing is how the Jews have maintained their distinct national identity having been scattered to the four corners of the globe. This achievement was possible only because of our adherence to the Torah, the "constitution" of the Jewish people. The Torah lays out the scope of personal rights and obligations, as well as laws covering lifecycle, business practice, medical ethics, parenting, married life, etc. Observance of the Torah was thus the thread which kept the Jewish people alive, and thriving, in every place and time.

Judaism cannot be classified as a race, because anyone can become a Jew by converting. The convert is considered a Jew in every regard, and his relationship with God is the same level as that of every other Jew. Come to Israel and you will find black Jews, oriental Jews, Indian Jews, etc."

# # #

Mkay. I give up.

Not trying to be "racist" here. I could care less what other people's religious beliefs are as long as they don't impede on my life.

So how is Whoopi wrong? How is this not cancel culture at its worst?

Given that I am Christian, is it now politically correct to refer to me as belonging to the "Christian race"?

Taking this one step further, if one were to argue that Judaism is a race but Christianity isn't, then ironically how is this not - in fact - racist?
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My 17 year old was watching a segment on her apology and then proceeded to say "did she miss history class". Seems Whoopi converted to Judaism as her stage name Goldberg, as she claims it is part of her heritage.
 
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So if I was to convert to Reform Judaism would that mean I'm part of a religion or a race?
 
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hog88 said:
It doesn’t matter what I call people in the context of this discussion. Hitler and the nazis believed Jews were a race and not simply a religion people that converted from Judaism to Christianity even prior to the race laws were still considered Jewish by the Nazis so the Holocaust was about race.

IMO Judaism is not a race anymore than being a Baptist is.
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Judaism itself is not a race, but people that hail from traditionally Jewish areas of the world are unique. They have discernible DNA from others as well as unique health predispositions and physical characteristics. If you want to call this a “race”, fine, if not, that’s fine too… I say who cares.
 
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And no Jewish is not a race, it is an ethnic group but ethnicity can include skin color but is not limited to it to answer you question
 
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Majors said:
If you're Megyn Kelly and ask as question about black face being acceptable decades ago as long you dressed as a character vs. Jimmy Kimmel dressing up as Karl Malone on his Man Show. One was let go by NBC the other has a late night show on ABC.

Joy Reid and Don Lemon are both openly racist on live TV and are allowed a platform. One is being let go this summer while the other one is going to be a male Oprah type host on CNN plus with an audience. Which means he is out of work in a year as they are struggling to find a spot for him as rating drop year over year.
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Joy Behar has also been openly racist. What is she doing on that show?
 
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DonjoVol said:
Joy Behar has also been openly racist. What is she doing on that show?
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You mean Joy who dressed in "blackface" but it's ok because it was tabbed "beautiful African woman" . Another example of polite racism.
 
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landscapingvol said:
You do realize you can be born Jewish ethnically and not practice the Jewish religion?
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So, by this reasoning, if I can trace my DNA to Jesus Christ, then I am of the "Christian Race"... whether I practice Christianity as my religion, huh?
 
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Majors said:
You mean Joy who dressed in "blackface" but it's ok because it was tabbed "beautiful African woman" . Another example of polite racism.
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She's openly racist and needs to be kicked off the show. Plain and simple.
 
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Majors said:
Correct, but different set of rules when you're an advocate to suburban housewives on MSM to the liberal agenda.
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Same with Bill Maher and Howard Stern who both have made openly racist comments on their shows but both have gotten a pass.
 
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Getting back to the most powerful job in America, whoever approves segments and writes on the teleprompter. I don't hold Whoopi alone, whoever approved the segment needs to be held publicly accountable too.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Same with Bill Maher and Howard Stern who both have made openly racist comments on their shows but both have gotten a pass.
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Held to a different standard being cable and satellite radio. Stern made his living in the early years being a racist host. His skits today would be banned.
 
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@MontyPython if you do not see Jewish as an ethnicity/race can you tell me what other races besides black and white that you recognize?
 
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MontyPython said:
So, by this reasoning, if I can trace my DNA to Jesus Christ, then I am of the "Christian Race"... whether I practice Christianity as my religion, huh?
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Name some races other than black and white as you see it
 
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Sandman 423 said:
That doesn't answer my question. Why should she be kicked of the show?
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Shes openly mocking, belittling an entire race. Today's cancel culture has no expiration date, your actions, tweets, conversations, videos and in this case insensitive picture is cause for termination based on "insensitivity". Sarah Silverman fired when a skit surfaced of her in blackface. If someone wants to get on TV and talk about the country and all of it's blemishes in regards to race relations, make sure that past won't discredit your actions.
 
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Majors said:
Correct, but different set of rules when you're an advocate to suburban housewives on MSM to the liberal agenda.
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There’s also different rules for black racism. Multiple examples of black racism (especially towards Jewish people) being ignored and downplayed. NYT even admitted they weren’t covering the rise in anti Semitic attacks because it “didn’t fit the white supremacy narrative”, meaning it was done by black people.

She doesn’t want the Holocaust seen as racism because it takes away from her own victim status.
 
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