MontyPython
Dorothy Mantooth is a saint!
- Joined
- Jun 28, 2019
- Messages
- 9,722
- Likes
- 13,482
So Whoopi Goldberg is suspended for 2 weeks from her TV show for making the following comment:
“Let’s be truthful about it because the Holocaust isn’t about race. No. It’s not about race!”
Whoopi was then called out for defining the basis of the Holocaust as the Jewish "race".
ABC News president Kim Godwin announced on Tuesday, “Effective immediately, I am suspending Whoopi Goldberg for two weeks for her wrong and hurtful comments,” Godwin said.
Whoopi apologized.
In a note to staff, ABC News prez Kim Godwin says, "While Whoopi has apologized, I’ve asked her to take time to reflect and learn about the impact of her comments. The entire ABC News organization stands in solidarity with our Jewish colleagues, friends, family and communities.”
Help me out here... how is Judaism a race? I'm the color (READ: RACE) that I am. Pretty confident I cannot at anytime change my race. Yet, at anytime I can convert to Judaism and become a "Jew". Right?!?
So, then, how is Whoopi wrong when she says the Holocaust is NOT based on race? Seems to me, Hitler hated people of the Jewish faith, hence the basis for the Holocaust. He hated them because of their religious beliefs, not the color of their skin (READ: RACE). Right?
Hmmm. So, I Google the question, "Is Judaism a race?".
Here are quotes from the articles:
First source: "Jews in the City":
"Religion, of course, is a belief system.
So where does Judaism fit into these categories?
Race, insofar as it exists at all, is a function of DNA. While there is a cluster of genes associated with being Jewish, non-Jewish people can possess those genes, and there are entire Jewish communities that don’t have them (presumably because these communities became isolated before those haplotype markers entered the DNA). Finally, a person can’t change his race but a person who isn’t Jewish can become Jewish. So it’s not looking good to define Judaism as a race.[1]
...So, if Judaism is not a race, nor an ethnicity, nor is it limited to religion, then what is it?"
Next source: "The AISH Rabbi Responds":
"To categorize Judaism "only" as a religion is a misunderstanding. The Jewish people are a nation, who share a common land (Israel), a common religion (Judaism) and a common history (dating back to Abraham).
What is amazing is how the Jews have maintained their distinct national identity having been scattered to the four corners of the globe. This achievement was possible only because of our adherence to the Torah, the "constitution" of the Jewish people. The Torah lays out the scope of personal rights and obligations, as well as laws covering lifecycle, business practice, medical ethics, parenting, married life, etc. Observance of the Torah was thus the thread which kept the Jewish people alive, and thriving, in every place and time.
Judaism cannot be classified as a race, because anyone can become a Jew by converting. The convert is considered a Jew in every regard, and his relationship with God is the same level as that of every other Jew. Come to Israel and you will find black Jews, oriental Jews, Indian Jews, etc."
# # #
Mkay. I give up.
Not trying to be "racist" here. I could care less what other people's religious beliefs are as long as they don't impede on my life.
So how is Whoopi wrong? How is this not cancel culture at its worst?
Given that I am Christian, is it now politically correct to refer to me as belonging to the "Christian race"?
Taking this one step further, if one were to argue that Judaism is a race but Christianity isn't, then ironically how is this not - in fact - racist?
“Let’s be truthful about it because the Holocaust isn’t about race. No. It’s not about race!”
Whoopi was then called out for defining the basis of the Holocaust as the Jewish "race".
ABC News president Kim Godwin announced on Tuesday, “Effective immediately, I am suspending Whoopi Goldberg for two weeks for her wrong and hurtful comments,” Godwin said.
Whoopi apologized.
In a note to staff, ABC News prez Kim Godwin says, "While Whoopi has apologized, I’ve asked her to take time to reflect and learn about the impact of her comments. The entire ABC News organization stands in solidarity with our Jewish colleagues, friends, family and communities.”
Help me out here... how is Judaism a race? I'm the color (READ: RACE) that I am. Pretty confident I cannot at anytime change my race. Yet, at anytime I can convert to Judaism and become a "Jew". Right?!?
So, then, how is Whoopi wrong when she says the Holocaust is NOT based on race? Seems to me, Hitler hated people of the Jewish faith, hence the basis for the Holocaust. He hated them because of their religious beliefs, not the color of their skin (READ: RACE). Right?
Hmmm. So, I Google the question, "Is Judaism a race?".
Here are quotes from the articles:
First source: "Jews in the City":
"Religion, of course, is a belief system.
So where does Judaism fit into these categories?
Race, insofar as it exists at all, is a function of DNA. While there is a cluster of genes associated with being Jewish, non-Jewish people can possess those genes, and there are entire Jewish communities that don’t have them (presumably because these communities became isolated before those haplotype markers entered the DNA). Finally, a person can’t change his race but a person who isn’t Jewish can become Jewish. So it’s not looking good to define Judaism as a race.[1]
...So, if Judaism is not a race, nor an ethnicity, nor is it limited to religion, then what is it?"
Next source: "The AISH Rabbi Responds":
"To categorize Judaism "only" as a religion is a misunderstanding. The Jewish people are a nation, who share a common land (Israel), a common religion (Judaism) and a common history (dating back to Abraham).
What is amazing is how the Jews have maintained their distinct national identity having been scattered to the four corners of the globe. This achievement was possible only because of our adherence to the Torah, the "constitution" of the Jewish people. The Torah lays out the scope of personal rights and obligations, as well as laws covering lifecycle, business practice, medical ethics, parenting, married life, etc. Observance of the Torah was thus the thread which kept the Jewish people alive, and thriving, in every place and time.
Judaism cannot be classified as a race, because anyone can become a Jew by converting. The convert is considered a Jew in every regard, and his relationship with God is the same level as that of every other Jew. Come to Israel and you will find black Jews, oriental Jews, Indian Jews, etc."
# # #
Mkay. I give up.
Not trying to be "racist" here. I could care less what other people's religious beliefs are as long as they don't impede on my life.
So how is Whoopi wrong? How is this not cancel culture at its worst?
Given that I am Christian, is it now politically correct to refer to me as belonging to the "Christian race"?
Taking this one step further, if one were to argue that Judaism is a race but Christianity isn't, then ironically how is this not - in fact - racist?
Last edited:
