Is the upheaval of college sports—especially football—the comeuppance…

[hillsborovol]

Put a buyout clause if NIL money is involved... just like they do with contracts for coaches.

 

[C-south]

Put a buyout clause if NIL money is involved... just like they do with contracts for coaches.

That might be easier if they were paid by the schools. Hard to enforce when the cash comes from elsewhere.

 

[LegionnaireOfTheMiserable]

There’s no fixing any of this because the NCAA is losing every court ruling. This is just how it’s gonna be

 

[Butch s]

What in the hell gives you the idea he doesn't know what to do? I mean actual evidence not some "i believe" speculation.

At this point, I’m not sure anyone walking the planet, knows what to do with this cluster

 

[Vol8188]

Since NIL is not going away, what rules does the NCAA need to implement into place. Their probably needs to be a salary cap, but are teams going to have a different salary cap. It would be weird if Tennessee had the same amount of money to use for recruiting as Vandy. Should the schools nil money come from donations or from revenue of tv rights, stadium, etc. There should also be contracts because everyone is basically a free agent every offseason with the transfer portal. I don’t like all of this because college football is becoming almost an NFL junior but it is the new way.

lol why do we need a salary cap? If you think “teams are going to have a different salary cap”, then that would mean “no cap” as the kids say

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Meh, it’ll settle down eventually. Once players start realizing that leaving a place to learn a new system, develop chemistry with a whole new team, etc. for short term money and that it may not benefit them in the long run (NFL prospect) as compared to developing under the same system and coaching for 4 years…. They’ll at least slow down the money chasing a bit.

Most guys never make the NFL, so they shouldn't behave as NFL prospects. The most money they can get out of their college career is the best route for them.

Those that are blue chip NFL prospects will get a lot of money easily even if they're on the bench, like Arch is now and Ewers did at Ohio State.

 

[Dirtyhairies]

I knew before i clicked on this that itd be nonsense. I mean, i wasnt wrong.

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

Where does the “talent fee” go?

That is a new revenue stream for the players that all schools must pay.

IMO it is the first step toward players being scholl employees or at least 1099 contractors.

 

[TN Volunteers.]

Under what rock have you been?

The federal courts negated the NCAA's illegal interference with NIL.

The NCAA vs Alston and Tennessee vs NCAA court decisions prove it.

My bad. I knew that paying players became because of the court cases but should’ve known that ncaa cannot regulate it

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

coaches deserve for having it their way for far too long? Sure seems that way to me. Unfortunately, it’s fans—as usual—that are caught in the middle watching the circus unfold.

As far as TN goes, I’m concerned for the first time in the Heupel era that he’s not quite sure what to do to maneuver the waters. Hope I’m wrong.

We just made the playoffs.

Some of yall...damn

 

[The_topis_Rocky89]

coaches deserve for having it their way for far too long? Sure seems that way to me. Unfortunately, it’s fans—as usual—that are caught in the middle watching the circus unfold.

As far as TN goes, I’m concerned for the first time in the Heupel era that he’s not quite sure what to do to maneuver the waters. Hope I’m wrong.

I totally agree, coaches and the NCAA had absolute power for so long. They chose to abuse their power instead of doing right by student athletes that’s exactly how we got here

 

[Butch s]

Why isn’t the school due money from the players for nil. The players are using the schools name,image and likeness to make money. Don’t believe it. Think you can get more money at Tennessee or say APSU. Naturally Tennessee, so the kid is prospering from the University of Tennessee brand

 

[Mtnvol80]

Why isn’t the school due money from the players for nil. The players are using the schools name,image and likeness to make money. Don’t believe it. Think you can get more money at Tennessee or say APSU. Naturally Tennessee, so the kid is prospering from the University of Tennessee brand

Good point. I hadn't looked at it from that view but you're correct

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Why isn’t the school due money from the players for nil. The players are using the schools name,image and likeness to make money. Don’t believe it. Think you can get more money at Tennessee or say APSU. Naturally Tennessee, so the kid is prospering from the University of Tennessee brand

The schools actually formally offer and invite the players to use their brand and attend their school.

In commercials I've seen, Bru holds a football and is in pads or whatever but it's not actually official UT equipment.

 

[Mtnvol80]

We just made the playoffs.

Some of yall...damn

We made the expanded playoffs. It's nothing more than a participation trophy. It's like the 68th team making the tournament and bragging about it.

 

[utvolpj]

We made the expanded playoffs. It's nothing more than a participation trophy. It's like the 68th team making the tournament and bragging about it.

Completely ignorant. One of the worst posts I've read tonight. You have zero clue what's going on

 

[Butch s]

The schools actually formally offer and invite the players to use their brand and attend their school.

In commercials I've seen, Bru holds a football and is in pads or whatever but it's not actually official UT equipment.

But the school is not offering nor paying the money. If the kid makes money from a third party because he decided to come to Tennessee, then he is using the university to prosper

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

But the school is not offering nor paying the money. If the kid makes money from a third party because he decided to come to Tennessee, then he is using the university to prosper

The kids can't play for the team they were invited to play for and given a scholarship to unless they're provided with UT equipment. They have to use the uniform and UT invited them.

When they do private, non UT commercials, they don't wear UT stuff. Even Curry or LeBron, unless the commercial is NBA endorsed, wear generic jerseys.

But you can't make them to wear UT apparel on the field then try to charge them for wearing it.

 

[EZE]

Under what rock have you been?

The federal courts negated the NCAA's illegal interference with NIL.

The NCAA vs Alston and Tennessee vs NCAA court decisions prove it.

Thank you. You nailed it.

And not only can the NCAA do nothing, but the conferences can’t do anything either. It would all be collusion.

It is a big fat mess that could end up imploding IMO.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

But the school is not offering nor paying the money. If the kid makes money from a third party because he decided to come to Tennessee, then he is using the university to prosper

For instance Quinn Ewers got his first card deal while at Ohio State. When he left Ohio State, he kept the card deal. Did he get the deal because of Ohio State or Texas?

Neither. He got the NIL deal because he's good at football no matter where he plays.

 

[The Original Fade]

Meh, it’ll settle down eventually. Once players start realizing that leaving a place to learn a new system, develop chemistry with a whole new team, etc. for short term money and that it may not benefit them in the long run (NFL prospect) as compared to developing under the same system and coaching for 4 years…. They’ll at least slow down the money chasing a bit.

You’re way off

 

[J C Higgins]

I'm not an attorney nor a politician but it seems to me the only solution is federal legislation that would exempt college athletics from some current laws that would otherwise apply (the Sherman antitrust law ? and or others?) because of the unique circumstances related to collegiate athletics.

Another (more radical) option is federal legislation that would prevent federal money of any kind.... direct aid, loans, grants, research stipends, etc.... to go to any school that violates some prescribed rules about NIL as related to student athletes". Very few, if any school, will continue if they know all federal money will be discontinued. Schools would be free to continue with the current NIL situation but if they do they would have to go without federal support of any type.

Yea, I know it sounds crazy but with the current laws I see no way to change the situation without something like this happening.

 

[cgrish]

Idiots start threads on how to fix stuff without even understanding basics. This crap has been discussed to death. How bout a Google search before starting yet another thread on something you know absolutely zero about?

How bout treating the players like the coach, if they want to leave, the team they go to has to buy out their contract? Can an NFL player leave before their contract is over? I really don't know, but some type of contract I would think should be legal, if they are getting paid, under contract for 1, 2, 3 or 4 year contract.

 

[thistime]

It won't slow down. You're considering the wrong group of people.

The majority of these players are playing through college, and that's it for them. They won't be going pro. They're the ones who will chase the hardest, because college is the only time they can get some money out of the years of work they put into playing football. And there's a LOT more of them than there are NFL-bound players. So they will only chase that money harder. And even the ones who might not want to chase harder will have family and friends and all sorts of people breathing down their necks to "GO GET THAT BAG."

Now whether that's the right or wrong way to look at college or at the reasons for playing football is another question, but with the money being what it is right now, everyone who's facing the end of their time playing football is going to feel the pull.

This says it all right here. It's about getting money for their families, handlers "agents", friends and whoever else is in their ear. All have the NFL dream but few will actually make it by getting drafted and even fewer will last more than a year. Also one bad play, one bad step and they are done. The sad part is it will take five or ten years for the sob stories to come out.

 

[cgrish]

I'm not an attorney nor a politician but it seems to me the only solution is federal legislation that would exempt college athletics from some current laws that would otherwise apply (the Sherman antitrust law ? and or others?) because of the unique circumstances related to collegiate athletics.

Another (more radical) option is federal legislation that would prevent federal money of any kind.... direct aid, loans, grants, research stipends, etc.... to go to any school that violates some prescribed rules about NIL as related to student athletes". Very few, if any school, will continue if they know all federal money will be discontinued. Schools would be free to continue with the current NIL situation but if they do they would have to go without federal support of any type.

Yea, I know it sounds crazy but with the current laws I see no way to change the situation without something like this happening.

I don't know if there are any rules concerning nil?