Is the world better off with the nation of Israel?

And this is how conspiracies get legs...

Tell me about it.

When there’s an issue I’m unsure on I read options from both sides and begin to form my own opinion.
There’s literally nothing out there on this.
Other than an occasional article bitching and getting half the facts wrong.
 
Unfortunately, I think Voltaire was incorrectly credited with that statement, but the point of the quote is still relevant.

Kevin Alfred Strom - Wikipedia

Misattributed and misquoted quotation

The statement "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" is often attributed to Voltaire, the French Enlightenment writer, historian and philosopher. In fact, it is based on something said by Strom in his program, "All America Must Know the Terror That is Upon Us" (1993): "To determine the true rulers of any society, all you must do is ask yourself this question: Who is it that I am not permitted to criticize?" The misattributed quotation continues to spread across the Internet.
 
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You can't bleed all over the place about the importance of saluting the flag and singing the national anthem or any other random activity that goes on before an NFL game that has ZERO implications or consequences on our individual lives... yet turn around and have no problem with us sacrificing our liberties and wealth for another country's best interests.

I really dont see how hard it is to see the similarities
Ahh ok, I see now
 
Throw the emotional garbage out.

I’d agree that on its face it appears unconstitutional. Regardless it’s been in place since 1979 and hasn’t been struck down. In my short research it doesn’t appear to have even been challenged.

Furthermore there doesn’t appear to be any debate on it and is bipartisan. To me the bad is obvious but I’d like to read some justification for it. At least to understand, or try to understand, the thought process.

The whole thing is odd
in the original article it lists two cases in the last two years where it has been overruled. U.S. Senate’s First Bill, in the Midst of the Shutdown, Is a Bipartisan Defense of the Israeli Government From Boycotts

not at the fed level, but at least at some state levels. still not sure how this hasn't gotten more attention or made it to the supreme court
 
in the original article it lists two cases in the last two years where it has been overruled. U.S. Senate’s First Bill, in the Midst of the Shutdown, Is a Bipartisan Defense of the Israeli Government From Boycotts

not at the fed level, but at least at some state levels. still not sure how this hasn't gotten more attention or made it to the supreme court

I don’t know why it’s a law.
I can’t find any justification or support for it.
I’m pro Israel and can’t think of a reasonable justification for it.
 
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Answer the question...

You state there’s no support for this but why is it law, much less even being discussed?


Doubles down on stupid question



You got me.
I have no idea.


Again (you’re clearly not getting this so let’s go really slow just for you)


Should. Not. Be. A. Law.


No Reasonable. Explanation. Seems. To. Exist.


I. Can’t. Think. Of. One. Either.





Pacer. Is. Too. Stupid. To. Realize. I. Agree. With. Him.
 
Doubles down on stupid question



You got me.
I have no idea.


Again (you’re clearly not getting this so let’s go really slow just for you)


Should. Not. Be. A. Law.


No Reasonable. Explanation. Seems. To. Exist.


I. Can’t. Think. Of. One. Either.





Pacer. Is. Too. Stupid. To. Realize. I. Agree. With. Him.

Emotions rule...I get it..

Odd that someone of your lineage can’t think outside the box...
 
Too recap.


Pacer is angry that I agree with him.

Lol

No one is angry but orangeslice...

I asked a simple question...that most can answer without demeaning, playing the victim...

Are you going to continue to deny that Jews/Israel have more power in this country than they should? Without getting emotional....or bringing up the Holocaust?

Have a real discussion...
 
No one is angry but orangeslice...

I asked a simple question...that most can answer without demeaning, playing the victim...

Are you going to continue to deny that Jews/Israel have more power in this country than they should? Without getting emotional....or bringing up the Holocaust?

Have a real discussion...



I’m laughing my ass off at you.
I’ve literally agreed with over and over.
You asked me to defend a position I don’t agree with. I asked you what the counter argument is for the position you and I agree on. I have no idea what it would be because there’s no support for it anywhere I can find. I’ve acknowledged that several times. You accused me of not thinking outside the box and bring up “lineages”. So I asked you what the thought process might be for people who don’t agree with us and all you’re doing is deflecting.

Can you explain any other reasons that you quoted a post I made that agreed with your position and used it to go on the attack?





Don’t bother answering.
Everyone already knows
 
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