Is this CBP best coaching job?

#51
#51
AllVolinGA said:
As usual, those who hate Pearl or are 'expressing their right' to be critical of him don't like it when someone who is happy with the turn in basketball suggest that perhaps the haters would rather have Jerry Green or Buzz Ball Back in town. That is a straight up TRUTH. Go back to winning 12 or 13 games and only having 8000 people in the building. Because that is what it was before CBP. Another TRUTH the haters like to ignore.
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Again, every claim you just made is simply false. No one would rather have Jerry Green or Buzz back; they are simply pointing out valid criticisms of Pearl.

And to the bolded section, again this is patently false. How many times did Green win less than 20 games?
 
#52
#52
LawVol13 said:
For the majority of the year, our depth has been a 4 star wing, a 3 star juco, 3 star junior center, and two 2 star walk on shooting guards. The starting lineup consists of a 4 star juco pg, a 5 star shooting guard,a 5 star small foward, a 4 star power forward, and a 4 star center.

As opposed to in his first year depth: a 0 star shooting guard and a 1 star power forward. Not to mention the starting lineup consisted of no one above 3 stars.

So, you tell me which team is more talented.
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Unfortunately, the stars do not always equate to quality players. Didn't we have Major Wingate on that team? Wooldridge is a great example of a 4* player who can't play. CJ was much better than anyone we can put at the point this year. Lofton, despite not being highly rated had a pretty good career. Smith was a walk on who played better than anyone at the 2 or 3 position we have this year. That team did not have great depth, but the starting talent would compare favorably with this years team, plus that team had some great outside shooters that is completely vacant from this years team regardless of the stars.
 
#53
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BasketvolsFan said:
Unfortunately, the stars do not always equate to quality players. Didn't we have Major Wingate on that team? Wooldridge is a great example of a 4* player who can't play. CJ was much better than anyone we can put at the point this year. Lofton, despite not being highly rated had a pretty good career. Smith was a walk on who played better than anyone at the 2 or 3 position we have this year. That team did not have great depth, but the starting talent would compare favorably with this years team, plus that team had some great outside shooters that is completely vacant from this years team regardless of the stars.
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Pearl got more out of less talented players. That's why I said that his first year was more impressive. Now, he is getting less out of more talented players.
 
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#54
#54
VolDad said:
Sorry! I did not know that my question would be so hard for you.
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Sorry that I didn't respond sooner, but I actually have a job and only visit this board as time permits. After the suspension of the four players and taking into consideration the fact that we also lost a promising post player and a senior guard left the team. I don't think you could pencil in any game as an absolute win. What teams did I pencil in as a loss---possibly any game we played. I do not think we had superior talent than most anyone at that time.
 
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BasketvolsFan said:
Sorry that I didn't respond sooner, but I actually have a job and only visit this board as time permits. After the suspension of the four players and taking into consideration the fact that we also lost a promising post player and a senior guard left the team. I don't think you could pencil in any game as an absolute win. What teams did I pencil in as a loss---possibly any game we played. I do not think we had superior talent than most anyone at that time.
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Just busting your chops. I agree with you. After the suspensions I was not taking any game for granted. We could have easily lost some that, before the suspensions, I had penciled in as victories. He rallied the team and kept them on an emotional high when things could have easily gone south. When the high evaporated he has still managed to keep the team on track. Kudos to him. :hi:

I would still be hard pressed to say that he didn't do a better job his 1st year. The SEC is down this year which I think aided his ability to hold the team together.
 
#56
#56
I agree the league is down, but don't forget that KY was down that year, at least compared to this year. He has done an exceptional job this year under the circumstances he was presented with.
 
#57
#57
AllVolinGA said:
As usual, those who hate Pearl or are 'expressing their right' to be critical of him don't like it when someone who is happy with the turn in basketball suggest that perhaps the haters would rather have Jerry Green or Buzz Ball Back in town. That is a straight up TRUTH. Go back to winning 12 or 13 games and only having 8000 people in the building. Because that is what it was before CBP. Another TRUTH the haters like to ignore.
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When did Tennessee win 12 or 13 games under Jerry Green? It appears for all of your blabbering about the TRUTH, you're a stranger to it.
 
#58
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VolDad said:
Just busting your chops. I agree with you. After the suspensions I was not taking any game for granted. We could have easily lost some that, before the suspensions, I had penciled in as victories. He rallied the team and kept them on an emotional high when things could have easily gone south. When the high evaporated he has still managed to keep the team on track. Kudos to him. :hi:

I would still be hard pressed to say that he didn't do a better job his 1st year. The SEC is down this year which I think aided his ability to hold the team together.
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I agree about penciling in most or all as W's, but there is a reason that we had high expectations for the team coming into the season.
 
#59
#59
AllVolinGA said:
As usual, those who hate Pearl or are 'expressing their right' to be critical of him don't like it when someone who is happy with the turn in basketball suggest that perhaps the haters would rather have Jerry Green or Buzz Ball Back in town. That is a straight up TRUTH. Go back to winning 12 or 13 games and only having 8000 people in the building. Because that is what it was before CBP. Another TRUTH the haters like to ignore.
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How is this that much different than what we have now?

97-98 20-9 1st Round
98-99 21-9 2nd Round
99-00 26-7 Sweet 16
00-01 22-11 1st round

(PS - When did Green or Buzz ever not win more that 13 games?)
 
#61
#61
AllVolinGA said:
As usual, those who hate Pearl or are 'expressing their right' to be critical of him don't like it when someone who is happy with the turn in basketball suggest that perhaps the haters would rather have Jerry Green or Buzz Ball Back in town. That is a straight up TRUTH. Go back to winning 12 or 13 games and only having 8000 people in the building. Because that is what it was before CBP. Another TRUTH the haters like to ignore.
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I didn't ask for your opinion, I said name one person who has stated they'd prefer Green over Pearl. It's not "TRUTH" in any sense of the word, especially since you can't name one single person. You merely just do what has been complained about all along, lump everyone who isn't 100% positive about Pearl 100% of the time into the "Pearl Must Go" crowd.

Did you even watch UT basketball before Pearl? It's pretty obvious from your comments you didn't pay attention to 1997-2001.
 
#62
#62
It's his first season here. And it is not even close.
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#63
#63
AllVolinGA said:
As usual, those who hate Pearl or are 'expressing their right' to be critical of him don't like it when someone who is happy with the turn in basketball suggest that perhaps the haters would rather have Jerry Green or Buzz Ball Back in town. That is a straight up TRUTH. Go back to winning 12 or 13 games and only having 8000 people in the building. Because that is what it was before CBP. Another TRUTH the haters like to ignore.
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You should have at least Googled UT's record before posting.
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#64
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VolsSportsFan said:
I didn't ask for your opinion, I said name one person who has stated they'd prefer Green over Pearl. It's not "TRUTH" in any sense of the word, especially since you can't name one single person. You merely just do what has been complained about all along, lump everyone who isn't 100% positive about Pearl 100% of the time into the "Pearl Must Go" crowd.

Did you even watch UT basketball before Pearl? It's pretty obvious from your comments you didn't pay attention to 1997-2001.
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How many times did DeVoe only win 12 games?
 
#65
#65
I'm sure the TRUTH is that he's more familiar with Danny DeVito than Don DeVoe.
 
#66
#66
Truth is you people just want to have something to BMW about. I have been watching UT basketball since the end of Coach Mears tenure. I know all about Coach Devoe. The 97-01 period you referred to is the wonderful Jerry Green years, one and done in the NCAA's. NO one going to the games in Knoxville. Why do you think he was canned? I am not a Pearl homer, I just think he has done a good job of making TN men's basketball noticed on a national level. Of course you haters can jump right back on me, thats okay, because I know what I know which is more than I can say for you.
 
#67
#67
AllVolinGA said:
Truth is you people just want to have something to BMW about. I have been watching UT basketball since the end of Coach Mears tenure. I know all about Coach Devoe. The 97-01 period you referred to is the wonderful Jerry Green years, one and done in the NCAA's. NO one going to the games in Knoxville. Why do you think he was canned? I am not a Pearl homer, I just think he has done a good job of making TN men's basketball noticed on a national level. Of course you haters can jump right back on me, thats okay, because I know what I know which is more than I can say for you.
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Again, 100% false. Green made a Sweet 16.

No one would say anything to you if you had a clue what you were talking about.
 
#68
#68
AllVolinGA said:
Truth is you people just want to have something to BMW about. I have been watching UT basketball since the end of Coach Mears tenure. I know all about Coach Devoe. The 97-01 period you referred to is the wonderful Jerry Green years, one and done in the NCAA's. NO one going to the games in Knoxville. Why do you think he was canned? I am not a Pearl homer, I just think he has done a good job of making TN men's basketball noticed on a national level. Of course you haters can jump right back on me, thats okay, because I know what I know which is more than I can say for you.
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Was the field in Jerry Green's One and Done seasons only 16-deep?
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#69
#69
AllVolinGA said:
Truth is you people just want to have something to BMW about. I have been watching UT basketball since the end of Coach Mears tenure. I know all about Coach Devoe. The 97-01 period you referred to is the wonderful Jerry Green years, one and done in the NCAA's. NO one going to the games in Knoxville. Why do you think he was canned? I am not a Pearl homer, I just think he has done a good job of making TN men's basketball noticed on a national level. Of course you haters can jump right back on me, thats okay, because I know what I know which is more than I can say for you.
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TRUTH is .... you don't know the Truth; as proven in your last few post.
 
#70
#70
One sweet 16, fantastic. Makes me wonder why he got the boot? CBP is much better than Jerry Green, Kevin ONeil, Wade Houston, and Buzz. Of course some here will not be happy until Pearl is gone and UT basketball is sinking in mediocrity again.
 
#71
#71
AllVolinGA said:
One sweet 16, fantastic. Makes me wonder why he got the boot? CBP is much better than Jerry Green, Kevin ONeil, Wade Houston, and Buzz. Of course some here will not be happy until Pearl is gone and UT basketball is sinking in mediocrity again.
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We only have four options?

Or better yet, define mediocrity.
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#72
#72
Sorry I don't see things as half empty like you do voldad. You just cant handle the truth because it doesnt fit into you pessimistic view of reality.
 
#73
#73
LawVol13 said:
Again, 100% false. Green made a Sweet 16.

No one would say anything to you if you had a clue what you were talking about.
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His tourney results were not much different.

Green Pearl
Year 1 First Round Second Round
Year 2 Second Round Sweet 16
Year 3 Sweet 16 Sweet 16
Year 4 1st Round 1st Round

First it was that we only won 12-13 games per year when Green never won less than 20 games per year. Then it was that Green never made it out of the 1st round. Senility is an awful thing to witness.
 
#75
#75
AllVolinGA said:
Sorry I don't see things as half empty like you do voldad. You just cant handle the truth because it doesnt fit into you pessimistic view of reality.
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The truth that includes fictional win totals and attendance figures?
 
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