Is this CBP best coaching job?

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BasketvolsFan said:
I did know he existed as his previous team had some success in the tournament as a mid-major prior to his coming to TN. If you watched or kept up with the NCAA tournament, I'm surprised you did not know he existed. Was I surprised when he was hired at UT---yes. I can acknowledge that he has done a good job without being a Pearl "lover' as you and many others want to label anyone who acknowleges any success he has had. You can avoid the obvious question by resorting to labeling anyone who asks who the great coaches we can get are by calling me part of the "Who ya gonna get" crowd. You can't answer the question so why don't you acknowledge it without resording to labeling others or calling them Pearl lovers.
Our recent hiring of Pearl and now Dooley seems to indicate that we are not at the top of the list of all the great coaches who are looking to come here. If you disagree, try answering the question by indicating who all these great coaches are that we could get. You seem to be the one who is actually delusional.
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Once again, why wouldn't someone come here when you have all the resources you need to be successful AND $2 million dollars.

Your way of thinking is the problem with UT sports right now. Too many people content with mediocrity. That's the reason the football program is where it is.

How dare any of us expect a little more. But the "we can't get anyone else" argument is moronic.
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#152
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Lofton4Three said:
Once again, why wouldn't someone come here when you have all the resources you need to be successful AND $2 million dollars.

Your way of thinking is the problem with UT sports right now. Too many people content with mediocrity. That's the reason the football program is where it is.

How dare any of us expect a little more. But the "we can't get anyone else" argument is moronic.
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If it is so moronic, then why aren't we hiring someone other than Pearl and Dooley and hoping that they will have some success instead of hiring a "name" coach who has a record of success. I really thought we would hire a name coach in football. Instead we end up with Dooley. If we can get these coaches, why are we not hiring them. Simple question that you can't answer. Logic says we can't get them or we would hire them. Why don't yo get realistic? Do I expect more from our basketball team--absolutely. However, I don't refuse to accept reality as you do.
 
#153
#153
BasketvolsFan said:
... Our recent hiring of Pearl and now Dooley seems to indicate that we are not at the top of the list of all the great coaches who are looking to come here. If you disagree, try answering the question by indicating who all these great coaches are that we could get. You seem to be the one who is actually delusional.
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Do you really consider the last minute rush job of the Dooley hire an indication of our stature in the sporting world?

I don’t think so. I think if the search started in December that there would have been a very different end result.
 
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BasketvolsFan said:
If it is so moronic, then why aren't we hiring someone other than Pearl and Dooley and hoping that they will have some success instead of hiring a "name" coach who has a record of success. I really thought we would hire a name coach in football. Instead we end up with Dooley. If we can get these coaches, why are we not hiring them. Simple question that you can't answer. Logic says we can't get them or we would hire them. Why don't yo get realistic? Do I expect more from our basketball team--absolutely. However, I don't refuse to accept reality as you do.
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The football hire was a direct result of terrible timing and an inept Athletic Director.

If we can't get a bball coach to take us to the next level, why not just drop the salary to 100,000 a year?
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#155
#155
There were name coaches available who did not have a job and weren't interested. Ever hear of a guy called Gruden who has TN connections?
 
#156
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BasketvolsFan said:
There were name coaches available who did not have a job and weren't interested. Ever hear of a guy called Gruden who has TN connections?
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Who would never step foot into a program with a depleted depth chart and that close to signing day.

It's really not that hard to figure that out. Even you should be able to get your head around that.
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#157
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BasketvolsFan said:
...... You can't answer the question so why don't you acknowledge it without resording to labeling others or calling them Pearl lovers.
Our recent hiring of Pearl and now Dooley seems to indicate that we are not at the top of the list of all the great coaches who are looking to come here. If you disagree, try answering the question by indicating who all these great coaches are that we could get. You seem to be the one who is actually delusional.
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While a little dated, here you go. Sort by salary, start at #1 and go down. I have no doubt that someone within there would be willing to take the job and could have better success in the post season.

USATODAY.com - Coaches compensation
 
#159
#159
To answer the question - no.

This is his team. Part of being a collegiate head coach is making sure you have the talent in place, and that included character evaluations. There is no excuse. This is 100% his roster. The guys who are here (or consequently the three guys who were booted) are a result of his recruiting. Other than a pass on Negedu, the blame of the lack of depth (and outside shooting) falls solely at his feet.
 
#160
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BasketvolsFan said:
I find it interesting that when a question is asked about who are the "great" coaches that would come to TN, you suddenly become a Pearl lover and are saying he is the only coach that could do what he has done. Show me in my post where I gave any indication of being a Pearl lover and where I said anything about he being the only coach who could do what he has done. There are numberous coaches that could do what he has done and could exceed what he has done. The question you want to continue to ignore is---could we get them to come to TN?
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To answer your question, yes. Now that Pearl has fixed our program, the job would be much more attractive to another candidate.

I have always supported Pearl. I am just far more realistic in my support than others are.
 
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braths said:
To answer your question, yes. Now that Pearl has fixed our program, the job would be much more attractive to another candidate.

I have always supported Pearl. I am just far more realistic in my support than others are.
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The question is who are they that would come--names?
 
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LawVol13 said:
It's impossible to concoct an exact list of potential suitors, but if you are willing to pay $2 million plus per year, I have a feeling that you can attract a whole lot of coaches.
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He's asked that multiple times. And has received the same answer. He can't get the concept that there are so many factors that just throwing out a name is not very smart.

So I have decided to give him names. My first one was John Wooden. He's currently available.
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Lofton4Three said:
He's asked that multiple times. And has received the same answer. He can't get the concept that there are so many factors that just throwing out a name is not very smart.

So I have decided to give him names. My first one was John Wooden. He's currently available.
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As always, you provide a completely worthless answer. I khow you can't provide a list of names. The point is the name coaches are generally established at their current schools and aren't likely to leave unless you pay an inordinate salary-aka.Kentucky. We aren't willing to pay 4 million dollars for a basketball or football coach. Therefore we get the Pearl's and Dooley's of the world and hope they do well. Could we get a better coach for what we are paying Pearl---I'm not sure we could. Are there better coaches out there--absolutely!
 
#167
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Lofton4Three said:
He's asked that multiple times. And has received the same answer. He can't get the concept that there are so many factors that just throwing out a name is not very smart.

So I have decided to give him names. My first one was John Wooden. He's currently available.
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I'm in the Bobby Knight camp myself.
 
#168
#168
Yea, hiring a coach that has one or two years left in coaching would be a great move. The fact that he always has such a great relationship with the administration where he coaches would also be a major plus. These names simply prove that no one can think of any top coach that we could pull from their current school.
 
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BasketvolsFan said:
Yea, hiring a coach that has one or two years left in coaching would be a great move. The fact that he always has such a great relationship with the administration where he coaches would also be a major plus. These names simply prove that no one can think of any top coach that we could pull from their current school.
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I suppose sarcasm doesn't translate to all.

My opinion doesn't matter, if it did we'd gone to Wisconsin and taken Crean and not Pearl. And if he said no we'd gone after Jay Wright.

For that matter, I'd at least put in a call to either to see if they might be interested at all. Doubt either one would, but it would be worth the phone call.
 
#170
#170
I agree that it would be worth a phone call. These are exactly the type coaches that I'm not sure we can get. Don't you think we, at least, made some calls for some of these coaches when we hired Pearl? We are willing to pay enough to pull the top coaches from schools where they are already established. That's why we end up with Pearl and Dooley. Do you really think either of those two were our first choice?
 
#171
#171
BasketvolsFan said:
I agree that it would be worth a phone call. These are exactly the type coaches that I'm not sure we can get. Don't you think we, at least, made some calls for some of these coaches when we hired Pearl? We are willing to pay enough to pull the top coaches from schools where they are already established. That's why we end up with Pearl and Dooley. Do you really think either of those two were our first choice?
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We didn't offer any coach $2 million plus after Buzz was fired.
 
#173
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Actually, you and I agree. I left the "not" out of the post you quoted me on. We don't offer enough to pull the top coaches from programs they are established in. If you would read my previous posts, you would see that has been a common thread.
 
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#174
BasketvolsFan said:
As always, you provide a completely worthless answer. I khow you can't provide a list of names. The point is the name coaches are generally established at their current schools and aren't likely to leave unless you pay an inordinate salary-aka.Kentucky. We aren't willing to pay 4 million dollars for a basketball or football coach. Therefore we get the Pearl's and Dooley's of the world and hope they do well. Could we get a better coach for what we are paying Pearl---I'm not sure we could. Are there better coaches out there--absolutely!
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Read the above Law and see if you still disagree.
 
#175
#175
BasketvolsFan said:
Read the above Law and see if you still disagree.
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I agree that it's definitely not an absolute that $2 million buys a "better" coach than Pearl. But that's not the point people are making. They are saying that if Pearl left, it wouldn't send us back to the Wade Houston or Buzz Peterson years as some of the idiots on here suggest. I would definitely be willing to bet that we could pay someone $2 million dollars plus a year and get similar results as we are getting right now. And I think that's the point being made on here.
 
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