Islam, is it a religion of peace or war?

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War suicide and love between a boy and a full grown man.
 
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Great pilots though.
 
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MercyPercy said:
The ideology is very problematic in most interpretations. Thankfully the majority of Muslims are not radical extremists and pose no threat to us, especially the ones that live in our country.

I'm sure some scared pussy will tell me how wrong I am and that they are all terrorists or terrorist supporters.
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The majority of Germans didnโ€™t โ€œsupportโ€ Hitlersโ€™ motives, but they also werenโ€™t going to do jack **** to stand in the way.
Hell, I donโ€™t know how you can say which Muslims are radical or not since most live in and under Sharia law. I consider Sharia law radical, period. Iโ€™d say you know a minute fraction of what atrocities Muslims commit. Iโ€™d say you donโ€™t want to be bothered with it and would shrug your shoulders if presented with the facts.

Iโ€™m sure some stupid pussy will tell me Iโ€™m exaggerating and broad brushing the religion of peace.
 
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Roustabout said:
The majority of Germans didnโ€™t โ€œsupportโ€ Hitlersโ€™ motives, but they also werenโ€™t going to do jack **** to stand in the way.
Hell, I donโ€™t know how you can say which Muslims are radical or not since most live in and under Sharia law. I consider Sharia law radical, period. Iโ€™d say you know a minute fraction of what atrocities Muslims commit. Iโ€™d say you donโ€™t want to be bothered with it and would shrug your shoulders if presented with the facts.

Iโ€™m sure some stupid pussy will tell me Iโ€™m exaggerating and broad brushing the religion of peace.
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Sounds like the guy in NZ did us a favor.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Interesting that we have this thread a day after New Zealand white supremacist mows down dozens... wonder if he was Muslim?
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White supremacy is WRONG and a terror group that should be targeted and eliminated. You have my support. Can we count on you to say the same about Hamas, the Islamic brotherhood and dozens of other radical Islamic groups?
Do you want to start a list and compare?
 
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Seems appropriate here in case you missed it before...

The issue of the Muslim's relationship with the infidel is one of the most important in Islam. The amount of attention devoted to the infidel is huge: 64 percent of the total Qur'an addresses that relationship while 81 percent of the Sira (chronological biographies of Muhammad) and 37 percent of the Hadith (sayings attributed to Muhammad) focus on this as well. In sum, nearly two thirds of Shari'a (Islamic law) is devoted to the infidel.

What comes through clearly by examining this subject is that Islam is not about universal brotherhood, as is often claimed, but about the brotherhood of believers, members of the umma. The flip-side of this is a total denunciation of the "other." There are more than four hundred verses in the Qur'an alone that describe the torment in hell that Allah has prepared for the infidel. The Qur'an dehumanizes infidels: They are vile animals and beasts, the worst of creatures and demons; perverted transgressors and partners of Satan to be fought until religion is Allah's alone. They are to be beheaded; terrorized, annihilated, crucified, punished, and expelled, and plotted against by deceit. Believers must be in a constant state of war with the infidel.

The Qur'anic pedigree for this view is unambiguous. In the spirit of al-Wala wal-Bara, Muslims are to be compassionate with one another but ruthless to the infidel. The infidels must not be taken as friends. "Hostility and hate" exist between them forever until the infidel "believe in Allah alone." They are a hated and cursed people; vile and evil-doers; disgraced and misguided. Even one's relatives should not be taken as friends if they are not Muslim.

The Qur'an says that all other religions are cursed by Allah. All those who join idols or false gods to Allah, or invent lies about Him, or deny Allah, or change even one word of Allah's book,or do not believe in Allah's messenger Muhammad are to be "seized wherever found and slain with a slaughter."

Judaism and Christianity are rejected and not acceptable to God since he has sent his final messenger to the entire world, who has revealed their errors.

Islam's Hatred of the Non-Muslim
 
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DynaLo said:
Seems appropriate here in case you missed it before...

The issue of the Muslim's relationship with the infidel is one of the most important in Islam. The amount of attention devoted to the infidel is huge: 64 percent of the total Qur'an addresses that relationship while 81 percent of the Sira (chronological biographies of Muhammad) and 37 percent of the Hadith (sayings attributed to Muhammad) focus on this as well. In sum, nearly two thirds of Shari'a (Islamic law) is devoted to the infidel.

What comes through clearly by examining this subject is that Islam is not about universal brotherhood, as is often claimed, but about the brotherhood of believers, members of the umma. The flip-side of this is a total denunciation of the "other." There are more than four hundred verses in the Qur'an alone that describe the torment in hell that Allah has prepared for the infidel. The Qur'an dehumanizes infidels: They are vile animals and beasts, the worst of creatures and demons; perverted transgressors and partners of Satan to be fought until religion is Allah's alone. They are to be beheaded; terrorized, annihilated, crucified, punished, and expelled, and plotted against by deceit. Believers must be in a constant state of war with the infidel.

The Qur'anic pedigree for this view is unambiguous. In the spirit of al-Wala wal-Bara, Muslims are to be compassionate with one another but ruthless to the infidel. The infidels must not be taken as friends. "Hostility and hate" exist between them forever until the infidel "believe in Allah alone." They are a hated and cursed people; vile and evil-doers; disgraced and misguided. Even one's relatives should not be taken as friends if they are not Muslim.

The Qur'an says that all other religions are cursed by Allah. All those who join idols or false gods to Allah, or invent lies about Him, or deny Allah, or change even one word of Allah's book,or do not believe in Allah's messenger Muhammad are to be "seized wherever found and slain with a slaughter."

Judaism and Christianity are rejected and not acceptable to God since he has sent his final messenger to the entire world, who has revealed their errors.

Islam's Hatred of the Non-Muslim
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Careful speaking that much truth.
 
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Roustabout said:
Stop trying to muddy the water. The only sick thing is the hard on, jerk off you get because of these isolated incidents from an extreme minority, while Islam continues to radicalize and spread.
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I think it speaks to your disturbed mindset that you believe I am "jerking off" to the murder of 50 innocent individuals. Just how sick are you? I'm just trying to follow your assumptions to their natural conclusions. If I honestly believe all Muslims wished me and my family harm, and had a significant chance to actually carry out those desires, I would not want to live near any. I would not want them let in my neighborhood. I would hope they would not be allowed in my country. If the situation was as dire and you and others are implying, I would want to be proactive in protecting myself and the ones I love. I would step right off that turban infested plane.
 
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They've been killing each other since AD 632 because each faction basically believes the other isn't Muslim enough, so to think they don't want to follow the word of Allah and kill infidels is naive.

Are there peace and love Muslims? Maybe. Although anyone claiming to be a peaceful Muslim is likely only following the early teachings of the prophet and disregarding the latter teachings which abrogated those earlier words. They usually end up dead if discovered for not being true to the word of Allah.
Muslims living strictly by the latter teachings want you either to convert or to die as that is what the prophet has decreed.
 
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DynaLo said:
They've been killing each other since AD 632 because each faction basically believes the other isn't Muslim enough, so to think they don't want to follow the word of Allah and kill infidels is naive.

Are there peace and love Muslims? Maybe. Although anyone claiming to be a peaceful Muslim is likely only following the early teachings of the prophet and disregarding the latter teachings which abrogated those earlier words. They usually end up dead if discovered for not being true to the word of Allah.
Muslims living strictly by the latter teachings want you either to convert or to die as that is what the prophet has decreed.
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If that is all true, sounds like they have no place in modern society and should be eradicated.
 
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Mercy, i dont believe the situation in the US is dire. Thanks to the atlantic and Pacific oceans. I do believe that Europe is well on their way to being overrun. The citizens there average less than 2 kids per couple. Populations are declining in many countries. But they let millions of refugees in, who have on average more than twice as many kids as them. Thats simple math. When the holy book of those people clearly tells them to lie, deceive, outbreed, and conquer the infidel...that poses a serious problem. When muslim countries that already exist are all governed by archaic sharia law, it is logical to believe that they will seek it as soom as they are the majority in their new habitat.

As of now, we need not worry about that here. My issue is not with muslims here. My issue is with the massive disinformation being spread, intentionally, that theirs is a religion of peace and they mean no harm. That simply isnt true. Its a blatant lie. Period.

Again...read the quran. Thats all i have asked of anyone here. Read the book. Nobody with an average IQ could read it and not see the truth. The only reason we need not be on alert about all muslims here is because just like Christianity, the vast majority who claim to practice it do not do as their holy book commands them to do. If all muslims followed the book, they would all be murderers. We need to stop spreading the lie that islam is a religion of peace, or anything like Christianity or Judaism. It simply isnt. Ignorance is dangerous.
 
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There's a reason why there is a significantly higher amount of Islamic extremism as opposed to other religions. Islam in its purest form isn't compatible with Western Judeo-Christian values. Even Muhammed himself was a pedophile (married a 6 year old girl).

The entire religion is based around coercion to gain followers. Christians are taught to spread the gospel by preaching and teaching by holy living (i.e. example) peacefully. We are taught to live peaceably with everyone, regardless of religion. No where is violence or coercion condoned by the Bible. The Quran however...

Jesus even indirectly condemns extremist violence when he rebuked Peter for cutting the centurion's ear off as he was coming to arrest Jesus. Jesus would also go on to heal the centurion (Malchus, I believe?)

In Islam, their concept of heaven is that of a sensual paradise with virgins. This is not even close to that of a Chrstian's definition heaven.
 
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