Islam, is it a religion of peace or war?

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There is no place for sharia law in this country yet we are seeing it rearing its ugly head in cities around our country.

We're seeing muslim community patrols rolling around like they're cops in our cities.

We're seeing the hatred of Israel and the Jewish faith verbally spewed out by an elected state representative that is a muslim.

Certain groups have banged the damn drum so loudly and repetitively about "religion of peace" that most folks have become tone deaf and blind to what is subversively taking place on our soil right in front of them.
 
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MercyPercy said:
The ideology is very problematic in most interpretations. Thankfully the majority of Muslims are not radical extremists and pose no threat to us, especially the ones that live in our country.

I'm sure some scared pussy will tell me how wrong I am and that they are all terrorists or terrorist supporters.
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The problems with the majority of the ones you speak of is they don't speak out against the radicals. They secretly condone it.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
The problems with the majority of the ones you speak of is they don't speak out against the radicals. They secretly condone it.
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IMO, their silence can mean one of two things.

1. If they speak out publicly about it, their life is endangered by extremists that'll be more than willing to put a bullet in their head for doing so. In other words, they're coerced into silence.

2. Like what you said, they secretly condone their actions.

Either way, it doesn't reflect very well on their religion.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
The problems with the majority of the ones you speak of is they don't speak out against the radicals. They secretly condone it.
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I've addressed this. If that is the case, then none can be trusted and must be detained at minimum, hanged hopefully. Right?
 
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Change the calendar a bit and we'd be talking about Radical Christianity. What did we learn from the Crusades, the Inquisitions, the Holy Roman Empire, the Troubles, and Protestant fundamentalism that can help us keep fundamentalist Islam in check?
 
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MercyPercy said:
I've addressed this. If that is the case, then none can be trusted and must be detained at minimum, hanged hopefully. Right?
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Swing and a miss...nice try.

How about simply opening one's eyes to what is going on and stopping it from happening. Taking a stand and not accepting the bs being force fed to us about it's not really sharia law, it's only in one city, but the patrols are for everyone's safety, that's not really what her words meant.

I'm all for being an inhospitable host and calling the spade a spade. Of course I've also never been accused of being any way near politically correct.
Sharia law, sure thing in your own damn sandbox, don't let the door hit ya.
Muslim community patrols, join a freaking neighborhood watch group.
Hey Ms Congresswoman, how about you shove your hate rhetoric and do what you were hired to do.
 
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MercyPercy said:
Where are we enforcing sharia law in the US?
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How does rearing its ugly head equate to enforcing? I haven't seen anyone but you utilize the term enforcing.
There are folks trying to nudge it into place in areas of this country and to ignore the possibility of their success is being purposefully obtuse to the overall issues.
 
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AshG said:
Change the calendar a bit and we'd be talking about Radical Christianity. What did we learn from the Crusades, the Inquisitions, the Holy Roman Empire, the Troubles, and Protestant fundamentalism that can help us keep fundamentalist Islam in check?
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Reminds me of a former POTUS, can't say that anything a muslim extremist does is wrong, just changes the subject to the Crusades. I literally can't understand you people. I'm not saying hate everyone from the middle east, I've asked to condemn them and their beliefs like you all throw in Christian when it's a white person, and you all refuse to do it. Not one of your white mass shooters walked in shooting and yelling "this is for Jesus ", yet you guys never fail to throw Christian in there. Yet these Muslim extremists, every single one, tell it's for their God, and you guys can't bring that up, let alone show up and condemn it. Yet, here you are defending them. The extremists, why can't you condemn them?
 
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MercyPercy said:
I think it speaks to your disturbed mindset that you believe I am "jerking off" to the murder of 50 innocent individuals. Just how sick are you? I'm just trying to follow your assumptions to their natural conclusions. If I honestly believe all Muslims wished me and my family harm, and had a significant chance to actually carry out those desires, I would not want to live near any. I would not want them let in my neighborhood. I would hope they would not be allowed in my country. If the situation was as dire and you and others are implying, I would want to be proactive in protecting myself and the ones I love. I would step right off that turban infested plane.
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No you haven’t. Your a friggin idiot if you think I believe there is any good that would come out of this horrible crime.

The situation is dire. I tell you what. I’ll post and link you to a few Muslim related events each day until you tell me enough. Oh, wait we already had that thread.

What happened in NZ is horrible, it makes no sense that this one event grabs your attention when literally thousand of events prompt nothing from you. The majority of Muslims are happy to populate for generations until they are a majority and you and yours are not. They know you are lulled into your false security while what is happening in places like Michigan go on.

They know they have an ally in you. You will ignore hundreds and thousands of honor killings, acts of terror, oppression, and state sponsored terror. But you’ll suddenly get all bent when some fringe crazies flip the script.

I’ll tell you what I think. I think you’re 100% full of ****. I think your only concern about what just happened is how it personally affect your narrative.
 
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AshG said:
Change the calendar a bit and we'd be talking about Radical Christianity. What did we learn from the Crusades, the Inquisitions, the Holy Roman Empire, the Troubles, and Protestant fundamentalism that can help us keep fundamentalist Islam in check?
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STFU.

It is complete and utter nonsense to talk about the crusades (something you know nothing about).
Christianity self corrected. Look at what Christ and Christianity teaches and see if they jive with the actions. You never judge a philosophy by its abuse. Now, look at Mohammed and Islam and see who and how it was founded and tell me what’s consistent.
 
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Roustabout said:
STFU.

It is complete and utter nonsense to talk about the crusades (something you know nothing about).
Christianity self corrected. Look at what Christ and Christianity teaches and see if they jive with the actions. You never judge a philosophy by its abuse. Now, look at Mohammed and Islam and see who and how it was founded and tell me what’s consistent.
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It is not nonsense to mention the Fourth Crusade, when the Catholics sacked their fellow Christians in Constantinople for fun and profit.

I would say Christianity is self-correcting, not self-corrected.
 
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Purple Tiger said:
It is not nonsense to mention the Fourth Crusade, when the Catholics sacked their fellow Christians in Constantinople for fun and profit.

I would say Christianity is self-correcting, not self-corrected.
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You have no issue condemning the crusades from way back, do you condemn what islam extremist teache today? Killing homosexuals and those who don't convert? Rape, beating women?
 
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Carl Pickens said:
The problems with the majority of the ones you speak of is they don't speak out against the radicals. They secretly condone it.
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Ahhh, you know what people are secretly thinking. Perhaps you should change occupations so that we all benefit from your talents. The Justice League, perhaps.
 
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Matt2496 said:
IMO, their silence can mean one of two things.

1. If they speak out publicly about it, their life is endangered by extremists that'll be more than willing to put a bullet in their head for doing so. In other words, they're coerced into silence.

2. Like what you said, they secretly condone their actions.

Either way, it doesn't reflect very well on their religion.
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Do you believe that Catholics that don't speak out against the pedopriests secretly condone that behavior?
 
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I would say Islam is a religion of conquest and spread. It has its nasty history, and it has its cultural and academic improvement history. In that sense, I’m don’t believe it is that much different than any other major world religion.

The difference now is the left and the moderate Islamic constituent need to be the ones speaking out against the radical elements. The mantra of “Islam is a religion of peace” simply isn’t true. Christianity has come to terms with and found Doctrinal ways of condemning things like the The Inquisition, Crusades, and Witch Hunts. Until Islam does the same the terror and Jihad, and Martyrdom, this isn’t going to change. We have people with 7th century thinking in a 21st century socio-political military world and its dangerous. The moderates and liberal left need to be honest at where the problem really is, and it’s the right and conservative factions that seem to be the only ones that are honest about it.
 
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