Islam, is it a religion of peace or war?

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superdave1984 said:
I admire Muslims for that very thing. Christians should pray as much as Muslims. Most folks won't walk past them while they are praying out of common respect. I have no issue with it at all. I would guess 90% of Muslims are very devout and non radical. I have only had one opportunity to speak to a Muslim about his faith. He was very respectful of my beliefs and we had a good conversation. We did not agree on most things, but the conversation was civil. He seemed genuinely interested in what I was saying. At the end of the discussion he just said "I just do not agree with your religion, but I appreciate you speaking to me about it." and went on his way.
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What does the Bible say about how to pray??
 
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superdave1984 said:
I admire Muslims for that very thing. Christians should pray as much as Muslims. Most folks won't walk past them while they are praying out of common respect. I have no issue with it at all. I would guess 90% of Muslims are very devout and non radical. I have only had one opportunity to speak to a Muslim about his faith. He was very respectful of my beliefs and we had a good conversation. We did not agree on most things, but the conversation was civil. He seemed genuinely interested in what I was saying. At the end of the discussion he just said "I just do not agree with your religion, but I appreciate you speaking to me about it." and went on his way.
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What does the Bible say about how to pray??

Islam is a radical political ideology lathered up in “religion.” It’s a detestable cancer on humanity.
 
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Roustabout said:
What does the Bible say about how to pray??
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Pray in private. Be humble.

Matthew 6

Matthew 6: 5. And whenever you pray you should not be like the hypocrites that love to stand in the assemblies and on the corners of the marketplaces to pray that they be visible to the sons of men. And truly I say to you that they have received their reward. 6. But when you pray enter your inner room and close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret and your Father who sees in secret He will reward you in open. 7. And when you pray, you should not be chatterers like the pagans, for they hope that by many words they will be heard. 8. Therefore, do not imitate them for your Father knows what need you have before you ask Him.
 
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Roustabout said:
What does the Bible say about how to pray??

Islam is a radical political ideology lathered up in “religion.” It’s a detestable cancer on humanity.
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Wafflestomper said:
Muslims probably say the same thing about Christianity.
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Roustabout said:
Couldn’t give two *****. 90% of Muslims are 3rd world and completely out of touch with reality.
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Wafflestomper said:
Remind me again where Jesus Christ comes from? Oh, that's right, a barn in the middle east. Very metropolitan.
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Waffle probably has you there, Roust (if you're reading this, I'm sure you'll come back and try to remind me that Jesus was a carpenter, and a Jew, and was hard-working and wasn't third world << but Waffle is simply speaking about the very "region" you're referring to (i.e. not judging persons by "where they are from" as the Jews actually looked down on Jesus because he was from "Nazareth" (John 1:43-46) / "“Can anything good come from Nazareth?”)

>> what we need to focus on, is "Spiritual Richness" in Jesus << eg the church at Smyrna / "'I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan" Rev 2:9).

Back in the day, there were Jews who despised Samaritans, yet Jesus loved all people -- he went to Samaria to tell them about himself (i.e. Woman at the well).

In Christianity: we are told to love (and to teach the Gospel of Christ Jesus to all people).

Ishmael was circumcised on the same day as Abraham (Gen 17: "On that very day Abraham took his son Ishmael and all those born in his household or purchased with his money—every male among the members of Abraham’s household—and he circumcised them, just as God had told him") << "For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation" Galatians 6:15.

Circumcision is no longer God's plan -- God's plan in this Age, is His Church >> is that all people be called children of Faith in Christ Jesus, His Son << is that ALL people be called to Christ's church.

See: "For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus" (Gal 3:26) << it's in faith in Jesus (not physical descendant-cy from Isaac or Ishmael).

1. "Then a voice came out of the cloud, saying, "This is My Son, My Chosen One; listen to Him!" Luke 9:35 ;

2. "And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it" Matthew 16:18 << the "rock" is spiritual / faith / confession in Christ Jesus (not a physical rock / not physical land).
 
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ajvol01 said:
Pray in private. Be humble.

Matthew 6

Matthew 6: 5. And whenever you pray you should not be like the hypocrites that love to stand in the assemblies and on the corners of the marketplaces to pray that they be visible to the sons of men. And truly I say to you that they have received their reward. 6. But when you pray enter your inner room and close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret and your Father who sees in secret He will reward you in open. 7. And when you pray, you should not be chatterers like the pagans, for they hope that by many words they will be heard. 8. Therefore, do not imitate them for your Father knows what need you have before you ask Him.
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Ding, ding, ding.
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Roustabout said:
What does the Bible say about how to pray??
Islam is a radical political ideology lathered up in “religion.” It’s a detestable cancer on humanity.
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Wafflestomper said:
Muslims probably say the same thing about Christianity.
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Roustabout said:
Couldn’t give two *****. 90% of Muslims are 3rd world and completely out of touch with reality.
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Wafflestomper said:
Remind me again where Jesus Christ comes from? Oh, that's right, a barn in the middle east. Very metropolitan.
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ajvol01 said:
Pray in private. Be humble.

Matthew 6

Matthew 6: 5. And whenever you pray you should not be like the hypocrites that love to stand in the assemblies and on the corners of the marketplaces to pray that they be visible to the sons of men. And truly I say to you that they have received their reward. 6. But when you pray enter your inner room and close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret and your Father who sees in secret He will reward you in open. 7. And when you pray, you should not be chatterers like the pagans, for they hope that by many words they will be heard. 8. Therefore, do not imitate them for your Father knows what need you have before you ask Him.
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ajvo01, what does Matthew 6:5 say, then, in regards to the "Wailing Wall" in Jerusalem ?? Matt 6:5 is good to look at, in context.

What about Christian prayer vigils / Christian churches who gather together for 24-hr prayers, etc? When the churches come together, we eat the Lord's Supper and we prayer (not in our closets, but together).

Regardless of what Roustabout is trying to get across here (he's trying to prove certain persons are "detestable" based on public prayer), People are NOT "detestable" simply because they prayer in groups / in places other than closets.

Still don't believe me, then take a look here, of Jesus and his disciples, along with crowd, praying to God -- HERE, Jesus (our Lord and Savior << the Son of God, who the Romans and Jews cruciified unto death on the Cross and who rose from the tomb on the 3rd day << Jesus, OUR RISEN SAVIOUR) pray's / "gave thanks" to God openly and in front of 4000+ people (NOT in a closet) ;

Matt 15:29ff
Moving on from there, Jesus went along the Sea of Galilee. Then He went up on a mountain and sat down. 30Large crowds came to Him, bringing the lame, the blind, the crippled, the mute, and many others, and laid them at His feet, and He healed them. 31The crowd was amazed when they saw the mute speaking, the crippled restored, the lame walking, and the blind seeing. And they glorified the God of Israel.
Jesus said, “I have compassion for this crowd, because they have already been with Me three days and have nothing to eat. I do not want to send them away hungry, or they may faint along the way.”
And He directed the crowd to sit down on the ground. 36Taking the seven loaves and the fish, He gave thanks and broke them. Then He gave them to the disciples, and the disciples gave them to the people.

37They all ate and were satisfied, and the disciples picked up seven basketfuls of broken pieces that were left over. 38A total of four thousand men were fed, in addition to women and children.
 
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MercyPercy said:
The ideology is very problematic in most interpretations. Thankfully the majority of Muslims are not radical extremists and pose no threat to us, especially the ones that live in our country.

I'm sure some scared pussy will tell me how wrong I am and that they are all terrorists or terrorist supporters.
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The only Muslims we should be afraid of are Saudi Wahhabis and CIA/Mossad/MI6 trained Muslim mercenaries.
 
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hndog609 said:
After ruminating a bit I've come to what, IMHO, is the easiest thing to point to regarding Islam vs other religions and a capacity for ideological violence. Why has there never been a "Piss Muhammad"? "Piss Christ" was sponsored by the National Endowment for the Arts. Comedy Central won't even show an image of Muhammad for fear of violent reprisal. They feel perfectly safe doing anything (and I mean anything) with Jesus. At the Garland TX "Draw the Prophet" contest there were concerns about what might happen. The concerns were well founded as the event was in fact attacked. (bonus fact, both shooters with rifles were taken down by a traffic division cop with his service pistol...suck on that Peterson/Israel)

There's no controlling crazy. Extreme outliers exist in pretty much everything and everybody pretty much accepts that's the case. Actual changes in action aren't usually subject to "feces happens" concerns. People don't do things when the actual risk rises above "feces happens" to some degree actual predictable risk. There are things that are not thought twice about regarding the treatment and representation of other religions and their figures vs Islam. It's not a fluke and anyone being honest understands the reason why.
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Well, you just nullified the point you were trying to make in the first paragraph with the opening lines of the second paragraph. Not all Muslims are going to react with violence over an NEA exhibition.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Mercy, i dont believe the situation in the US is dire. Thanks to the atlantic and Pacific oceans. I do believe that Europe is well on their way to being overrun. The citizens there average less than 2 kids per couple. Populations are declining in many countries. But they let millions of refugees in, who have on average more than twice as many kids as them. Thats simple math. When the holy book of those people clearly tells them to lie, deceive, outbreed, and conquer the infidel...that poses a serious problem. When muslim countries that already exist are all governed by archaic sharia law, it is logical to believe that they will seek it as soom as they are the majority in their new habitat.

As of now, we need not worry about that here. My issue is not with muslims here. My issue is with the massive disinformation being spread, intentionally, that theirs is a religion of peace and they mean no harm. That simply isnt true. Its a blatant lie. Period.

Again...read the quran. Thats all i have asked of anyone here. Read the book. Nobody with an average IQ could read it and not see the truth. The only reason we need not be on alert about all muslims here is because just like Christianity, the vast majority who claim to practice it do not do as their holy book commands them to do. If all muslims followed the book, they would all be murderers. We need to stop spreading the lie that islam is a religion of peace, or anything like Christianity or Judaism. It simply isnt. Ignorance is dangerous.
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The first half of your book turns bitches to salt and floods the earth because butthurt and the second half drowns everything in sulfur at the end.

Religion is kind of ****ing dumb.
 
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