Israel vs Palestinians

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KB5252 said:
I am, we tried to negotiate a ceasefire deal.... Israel didn't even respond to it. Political theater or not there is friction and distrust between these administrations now.
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Seems odd that they have any reason to "distrust" the people that just sent them another several billion dollars, no?
 
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ButchPlz said:
Seems odd that they have any reason to "distrust" the people that just sent them another several billion dollars, no?
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I distrust the government but I still cash my refund check...... Until this past year that is.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The fog of war makes it impossible to know which things are being done for show, or to justify steps to be taken several moves down the road.
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I might be wrong, but I think the fog of war will get a lot clearer in the next few days. Israel kinda let the last attack from Iran slide because they has done an assassination on Iranian soil. The deal in Lebanon had nothing to do with Iran proper. Iran just gave Israel the excuse they have been looking for to go after the nuclear development facilities before Iran can have a nuke.
 
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lawgator1 said:
This is jargon that in the world of international diplomacy means something. It is threatening, but vague. It leaves room.

Trump would get out over his skis, as he has done so many times before, and I think it fair to say he is likely to make comments that he (and we) would later regret. The man has show himself to have no filter, no common sense, and no self-awareness more times than I can count.

He cares 10000 times more about sounding tough and what he thinks is presidential, but with no idea what he is getting us in to.
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I agree w/ some of what you said, but these issues didn’t really occur on this scale when he was POTUS. I think there was one specific time when he was in office after we killed the QUD’s force commander where the Iranian’s specifically targeted US bases in Iraq. If I remember correctly, he handled that situation pretty diplomatically and might’ve even downplayed the impact that it had, as to not escalate tensions in the region.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I agree w/ some of what you said, but these issues didn’t really occur on this scale when he was POTUS. I think there was one specific time when he was in office after we killed the QUD’s force commander where the Iranian’s specifically targeted US bases in Iraq. If I remember correctly, he handled that situation pretty diplomatically and might’ve even downplayed the impact that it had, as to not escalate tensions in the region.
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I'd have to go back and look, I do not remember it well.

Notably, with today's developments, Trump has rather predictability and brashly undermined faith in our response or ability to respond because he thinks it will help him.

I think its irresponsible of him to do so at the moment. But it is as I say entirely predictable that he would do so.
 
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Let me be clear that I'm not stating we are in jeopardy of losing Israel as an ally. Just that there is some strain between our two administrations and some distrust.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'd have to go back and look, I do not remember it well.

Notably, with today's developments, Trump has rather predictability and brashly undermined faith in our response or ability to respond because he thinks it will help him.

I think its irresponsible of him to do so at the moment. But it is as I say entirely predictable that he would do so.
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Kind of like when Kamala said she didn’t “trust a Trump vaccine?”
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump's mercurial nature is not a good thing in a scenario rapidly unfolding like this one, and for at least two reasons.

First and foremost, he is motivated to do only what he thinks will earn him praise, either from the combatants or here at home, and only in the here and now. He has no concept of restraint for the long term benefit of everyone else.

Second, and not far behind, unpredictability is what leads to miscalculation. If he were to talk about striking Iran, for example, with US aircraft thinking he's going to be lauded as a tough guy (by people with their own agendas) he may engender a preemptive attack by Iran that only makes things worse because they cannot reasonably anticipate a calm and measured or appropriate response by him.

The MAGA crowd likes Trump because they buy into the notion that his saber rattling is a good thing. Wish they'd see the false bravado for what it is and understand that response and counter-response right now are best left to the level-headed professionals in the military, and not Trump thinking of tomorrow's headlines how he, and he alone, took some great action.
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The reason it is unfolding is because of your weak ass party. Biden and Camel Toe, give me a ****ing break.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'd have to go back and look, I do not remember it well.

Notably, with today's developments, Trump has rather predictability and brashly undermined faith in our response or ability to respond because he thinks it will help him.

I think its irresponsible of him to do so at the moment. But it is as I say entirely predictable that he would do so.
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We are unable to effectively respond because idiots installed Biden as President.
 
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"The two terrorists, Muhammad Chalaf Sahar Rajab and Hassan Muhammad Hassan Tamimi, from Hebron, were shot dead by members of a Tel Aviv-Jaffa Municipality security patrol unit and citizens using personal firearms, according to the police."

amazing how that works
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
The AP and left are as usual disgusting.

"AP Calls Terrorist Leader Nasrallah "Charismatic and Shrewd;" The Washington Post Calls Him "A Moral Compass"

Here is just a partial list of the murders perpetrated by one of history's most prolific serial killers:

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www.foxnews.com

Associated Press called out for headline on death of terror leader: ‘Charismatic and shrewd’

Social media users pointed out that the Associated Press' obituary for deceased Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah appeared to be nicer than its obituary of late U.S. Senator Jim Inhofe.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
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At the gym today watching CNN and FOX side by side. CNN and FOX both referred to the 'killing' of Nasrallah. Christiana Ammonpour repeatedly referred to the 'assassination' of Nasrallah. She's a scumbag. Always has been.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
If one is targeting nuclear facilities, isn't that considered nuclear war?
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Matt2496 said:
lol. When Israel sabotaged Iranian centrifuges, was that considered “nuclear” war?
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It certainly could be considered so I would think. So, if Russia gives U.S. enemies in the middle east long-range missiles and they target nuclear facilities in the U.S., would the U.S. consider that nuclear war?

The U.S. is involved on both sides of this conflict.

There really isn't much thinking going on if this were to come to pass, imo.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
I personally don’t expect anything from Joe. I don’t expect him to lead. To speak clearly. To think critically. I don’t even expect him to control his bowels. I don’t expect him to stay awake for more than a few hours at a time. And I don’t expect him to even know where he’s at or who he is with.

My expectations of our current President could not be any lower.
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