It seems like Cuonzo's players always

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whobethis16 said:
I don't get your point...Martin hasn't had any losing seasons at UT....
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I believe his point is Martin hasn't made the NCAA tournament EVER as a head coach so that counts as a losing season. The standard is make the tournament. Or, go coach somewhere else.
 
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Sandvol said:
I believe his point is Martin hasn't made the NCAA tournament EVER as a head coach so that counts as a losing season. The standard is make the tournament. Or, go coach somewhere else.
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Read the thread "Martin isn't so bad" and get back to me when you see how the current great coaches did in their first 5 years as a head coach. He's right on par, with more wins.
 
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Stoked4Zo said:
Yeah Pearl was a mastermind at dictating a game. Indy, Oakland, College of Charleston, Charlotte, USC (twice)...you just have to except the fact that Pearl was declining as a coach and was reeling in Swiperboy's and Hall's.
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You Zophiles are amazing. 5 of the 6 games you just mentioned were his last season during an NCAA investigation. I heard Pearl called an "embattled coach" so much I heard it in my sleep. Who is Zo's best win? Pearl beat Ohio State, Memphis (#1 ranked), Texas twice (a team that has multiple NBA guys, including an NBA all star), etc. He instantly took an NIT team and made them a tourney team. You can't with a straight face say Zo is a better coach than Pearl. He's gone, but good Lord.
 
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#55
An NIT team is what CCM was left with and yeah he didn't make them a tourney team but he was close and had them 2nd in the SEC. Being left with CJ Watson and Chris Lofton is awful...
 
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Stoked4Zo said:
Yeah Pearl was a mastermind at dictating a game. Indy, Oakland, College of Charleston, Charlotte, USC (twice)...you just have to except the fact that Pearl was declining as a coach and was reeling in Swiperboy's and Hall's.
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Getting to the dance 6 straight years......
 
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Stoked4Zo said:
An NIT team is what CCM was left with and yeah he didn't make them a tourney team but he was close and had them 2nd in the SEC. Being left with CJ Watson and Chris Lofton is awful...
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Did we get a trophy four coming in tied for 2nd thru 4th? I can't remember.
 
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vols 30 said:
What other games? You mean last years NIT UK team? Or the weak UCONN team?
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Yes ignore the others he listed, or didn't list such as final four bound Wichita State.

I like you Vols30, but don't act as if Martin has never win a "big" game, that's absolutely ridiculous.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Yes ignore the others he listed, or didn't list such as final four bound Wichita State.

I like you Vols30, but don't act as if Martin has never win a "big" game, that's absolutely ridiculous.
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He has won big games, but there has been many times the team has started out flat. I wish CM would show more emotion during the game. Maybe get everyone fired up .
 
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vols 30 said:
He has won big games, but there has been many times the team has started out flat. I wish CM would show more emotion during the game. Maybe get everyone fired up .
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I remember this being a common topic last year, he's never picked up a T
 
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vols 30 said:
He has won big games, but there has been many times the team has started out flat. I wish CM would show more emotion during the game. Maybe get everyone fired up .
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Not everyone jumps around making a fool of himself. Get over it. Quit trying to make him into something he's not.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Read the thread "Martin isn't so bad" and get back to me when you see how the current great coaches did in their first 5 years as a head coach. He's right on par, with more wins.
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When I see this argument, I know the coach has no other qualities in which someone can point towards as a defense. You know who else has a mediocre record and performance their first couple of years? A bunch of crap coaches.

It is possible, people should know, to use one's eyes and discern whether or not a coach is good by his game plan, game management and other readily apparent details.
 
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Unimane said:
When I see this argument, I know the coach has no other qualities in which someone can point towards as a defense. You know who else has a mediocre record and performance their first couple of years? A bunch of crap coaches.

It is possible, people should know, to use one's eyes and discern whether or not a coach is good by his game plan, game management and other readily apparent details.
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But here's the point. If all these coaches were in the same year (year three) of their coaching careers, would you really be saying that Martin is terrible?
 
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whobethis16 said:
But here's the point. If all these coaches were in the same year (year three) of their coaching careers, would you really be saying that Martin is terrible?
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Yes, because the visual evidence is readily apparent to anyone who bothers to look. People, essentially, pull these arguments out of their rear end in order to satisfy the 1% possibility that Martin is the next Coach K when the reality is that it's 99% certain that he is exactly who he has been since he's been here.
 
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