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They shut our running game down yet we still found a way to roll, and you post this? We won. Take a deep breath.
 
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madbamahater said:
So they have nothing to work on or get better? You were completely satisfied with all of the play? You think Utah St is better than advertised? Sounds like this is what your suggesting.
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Maybe you wouldn't have gotten that reaction if you hadn't exaggerated.

Worley wasn't wild nor did he throw "a number in the dirt". He overthrew the long ones and threw the short ones away from trouble... exactly like you want him to do.

If this is going to be a pass happy offense and pass first mentality, they are in for a miserable season.
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The last time UT ran an O similar to the one we saw Saturday... was the last time the Vols went to Atlanta.

The coaches didn't commit to establishing the run game. IMO that could be because the gameplan was to use short, sideline to sideline passes to force USU to open up the middle. USU didn't take the bait. They were happy to let UT beat them with short passes. They stuck to their D philosophy of loading up against the run and playing back to prevent deep balls.

Or, are you just a typical fan. "Don't talk bout my Vols" kinda guy?
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Not sure anyone would call me that... but you exaggerated and nit picked a bit much.
 
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madbamahater said:
I agree with you. I did enjoy the win. But even the head coach said they need to get much better. It's just insane how defensive people get when you state the obvious.
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Sumlin, Saban, and others who won big games on Saturday said the same thing.

What you said about Worley isn't obvious... it isn't even true.

UT will need more of a run game but I am personally glad the coaches aren't so hard headed as to keep running against a team that is stacking the box. USCw ran for 118 against them last year in 39 carries. Wisconsin who is known as a running team had 158 on 45 carries two years ago. Auburn had 78 on 30 carries 3 years ago. In all 3 years, USU allowed less than 130 yds per game. In the last 2 years they ranked in the top 15 nationally in run D. They will sell out completely to stop the run.

I'm just saying that it was freaking Utah State. I picked the Vols to win by at least 25 points....
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UT was expected by most to struggle with USU. Many supposed experts predicted the Vols to lose. USU has a good system and has had some success with it. Yes, it was USU... of course it was also Boise, SDSU, Temple, UTM, etc.

UT didn't beat a national championship caliber program... but they DID overachieve what MOST expected.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
Worley looked like a Top Five QB in the SEC Sunday night. He threw one low ball that was still catchable. There were at least two stone cold drops by the WR corps. Worley did not even give "a whiff" of a turnover on Sunday.

The running game must improve. I don't like the time the Bajakian running game takes to develop especially from the shotgun. Hurd needs to hit the lanes faster. Both Lane and Devrin hit the holes fast. We need more power in our power-spread. However, I think the running game is what will improve most from Game 1 to Game 2.
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ASU probably won't consistently commit 8 or 9 to the box. They'll run a more standard D. Over the past 3 years they've played 7 BCS AQ teams. They've avg'd giving up 264 rush yds per game against those teams:

2013- Auburn, Mizzou, Memphis

2012- Oregon, Nebraska

2011- Illinois, Va Tech

Those are some good rushing teams but that still equates to a "good" rushing team being able to run effectively against them.
 
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madbamahater said:
Utah State was vastly overrated. They started virtually a brand new OL as well. Keeton is not a Heisman candidate. They may win some games in their weak ass conference. The "experts" were wrong about them. UT, as deficient in depth as they are, were superior in talent to Utah St and it showed big time.

Great win for the Vols largely because of the deficit in which they won.

Worley was turn over free but some of those wild passes will be picked by better talented and faster defenders. He sailed the ball to open receivers and threw a number in the dirt.

The running game was virtually non existent against a team that the Vols should have been able to push up and down the field. Lane needs to be ran to near death, with Hurd getting his share of the load too.

If this is going to be a pass happy offense and pass first mentality, they are in for a miserable season.
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Looks like it is time to clear the board and allow the "experts" to tell us what we saw, and to hang our heads in shame that we could get excited about beating a team which many "experts" were picking us to lose.

Silly me! There I was loving the fact we looked so much better and our guys were really enjoying themselves. All those "experts" who have feed us the line about improving most between game one and game two must have been lying to us.

Maybe we should play the next game and then forfeit the ones to the big boys, since we don't have a chance.

NOT!

Go Vols! Most of us believe.
 
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madbamahater said:
I agree with you. I did enjoy the win. But even the head coach said they need to get much better. It's just insane how defensive people get when you state the obvious.

I'm just saying that it was freaking Utah State. I picked the Vols to win by at least 25 points....
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The odds makers did not see it that way. I'm just glad we won and won big!
 
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I, for one am happy with the game. My son and watched with great anticipation. I was glad to see the swarming defense, some young guys "gettin' after it". Worley played well I thought. He did manage the game very well. He spread the ball around to several guys. I was waiting on Hurd OR Lane to break one, but that will have to wait. I saw a lot of bright spots on our team, and look forward to them developing to a strong unit. There still needs to be patience on our part as these young guys go thru the season. But Butch had them ready the other night and it showed. USU was never in the game. Go Vols!!!!
 
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madbamahater said:
I agree with you. I did enjoy the win. But even the head coach said they need to get much better. It's just insane how defensive people get when you state the obvious.

I'm just saying that it was freaking Utah State. I picked the Vols to win by at least 25 points....
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madbamahater said:
Utah State was vastly overrated. They started virtually a brand new OL as well. Keeton is not a Heisman candidate. They may win some games in their weak ass conference. The "experts" were wrong about them. UT, as deficient in depth as they are, were superior in talent to Utah St and it showed big time.

Great win for the Vols largely because of the deficit in which they won.

Worley was turn over free but some of those wild passes will be picked by better talented and faster defenders. He sailed the ball to open receivers and threw a number in the dirt.

The running game was virtually non existent against a team that the Vols should have been able to push up and down the field. Lane needs to be ran to near death, with Hurd getting his share of the load too.

If this is going to be a pass happy offense and pass first mentality, they are in for a miserable season.
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First of all, instead of reacting like your opinion doesn't matter like many on here do, I will actually address some of your commentsÂ….

Overall... I agree that UT had vastly more talented athletes, no doubt, after top 5 recruiting class we better have. I also think USU's offense and Keeton were overrated and- thus the wild predictions of upsets could be seen as hyping the game for viewership. But, while USU was starting a brand new O-Line, we were too! We also had a QB who was coming of a surgery, who was not nearly as good as Keeton before he got hurt. Our defense last year was terrible and who knew if there would be any improvement. USU has a reputation for playing really well against top tier schools. USU defense was also very good last year even though they've lost some people to turnover the system is very exotic and a good scheme. These among other reasons "experts" were hyping them up.

However our young guys did show up and performed very well! Our O-Line for the most part settled down and did a good job and we played extremely well for having as many if not more question marks then USU had. USU defense was still really good, and they will win a lot of games in their conference due to their defense, but their offense struggled to move anything against our defense. This is why in the second half we began to blow them out. Their defense up to that point had played very, very, well.

Worley was turn over free but some of those wild passes will be picked by better talented and faster defenders. He sailed the ball to open receivers and threw a number in the dirt.

You can pretty much say this about every QB who plays in a game. Every QB has errant throws. There are always passes that could be picked. Last year Worley threw some interceptions but he was not a turnover machine. I think he looked much improved last night. Looking at the statistics Worley was efficient and looked really comfortable in the game. Something i didn't really see last year. He had career highs in attempts and completions. So I think your complaint about Worley except for the lack of a deep ball, is a little nitpicky. USU were putting guys in the box cause they were betting Worley couldn't beat them. And for the most part Worley met the challenge. His performance was by in large the most impressive thing about Sunday. Sometimes throwing a ball into the dirt is better then getting it picked. If your going to throw into coverage, throw only where your guy can catch it. And while the seemingly apparent lack deep ball is a valid point there is just not a whole lot from a first game performance to complain about- they didn't run a lot of deep routes. USU was giving the underneath stuff all night. Why play Worley is a game manager and as long as he can throw to our WR and RBs and let their talents shine we'll be fine. He did exactly what has been asked of him.

The running game was virtually non existent against a team that the Vols should have been able to push up and down the field. Lane needs to be ran to near death, with Hurd getting his share of the load too.

"Virtually nonexistent" is an exaggeration and hardly takes into the context of the game or that there were a lot of positives too. Like I said earlier, USU was determined to stop the runÂ…thus the emphasis on the passing game. We still had two rushing TDs on the evening. Lane had a good game. Hurd will improve. The o-line will get better against more tradition defensive front. This is the area that needs the most work for sure but its probably more about tweaking it and building off of the positives. And being a starting debut for a retooled o-line I'm willing to grant them some time to iron out the kinksÂ…

I think against Arky St. we'll see the run game emphasized. But we must remember that the game situation will drive play calling, not the other way around. Just because we "could have pushed" USU all over the field doesn't mean we should play into the game plan of the other team. And I actually think USU's defense was better then you give them credit for. If your going to stack the box we have the WRs to torch the ono-on-one match ups. Theres no need to run when the pass is easy. Also we did get some push against loaded fronts but its not going to be easy no matter who you play, especially against a very competent D like USU. We also ran the same type of running play without much variation. The running game was Vanilla. I expect when we start playing tougher competition it'll look different. But for now we're easing our young guys into the system and leaning on our strengths. Not entirely a bad thing. The end gaol is to win. We accomplished that with ease. Theres is always room for improvementÂ…

But i do understand your overall point that perhaps we get too excited about a win against a Mountain West opponent who was perhaps over hyped. Lets just enjoy when we win. Lets perhaps curb our enthusiasm a bit. But people want something to be excited about. And Sunday was a good first step towards what we hope will be many great wins in our future!
 
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Miserable when we lose, miserable when we win? You're a glass completely empty kinda guy, huh?
 
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Because Tennessee won by a blowout margin that has to mean that Utah St was overrated right? All we heard all week was that Utah St was going to make this a close game. I can't help but get the feeling that the OP was going to finish his post with the line, "they are in for a miserable season." regardless of what the final score was or how Tennessee played...Yes, we had a strategy of quick passes to our WR's on the edge to exploit our advantage in speed and playmaking ability and take some stress away from our young line and that's exactly what our strategy should have been...We won the damn game by 31 points, what the hell were you expecting OP?
 
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madbamahater said:
So they have nothing to work on or get better? You were completely satisfied with all of the play? You think Utah St is better than advertised? Sounds like this is what your suggesting.

Or, are you just a typical fan. "Don't talk bout my Vols" kinda guy?
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They have plenty to work on but that doesnt mean we cant be happy with the win. Why cant we just be better than expected versus Utah St being over rated? You can twist this any way you like but in the end you are doing nothing but leaning towards the negative view of the situation. Dont worry though...you aint the first and you wont be the last.
 
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I agree we have things to work on and was rather disappointed with our ability to run the ball, but I thought the team as a whole did a fantastic job. You got to remember the number of Vols that were playing in their first game at UT. 20+ true freshmen, and a few juco's were making their debuts in an absolutely crazy Neyland Stadium environment. This time last year those kids were playing in front of MAYBE a couple thousand fans, and Sunday night they took the field for the first time in front of 102,000+ fans, and lord knows how many on national tv. Reguardless of how awesome that is, there had to be some pre-game jitters, and I thought they played very well considering. Give these youngsters time to grow and adjust to the big stage, and then I think you will see some of the improvement some posters are calling for.
 
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madbamahater said:
Utah State was vastly overrated. They started virtually a brand new OL as well. Keeton is not a Heisman candidate. They may win some games in their weak ass conference. The "experts" were wrong about them. UT, as deficient in depth as they are, were superior in talent to Utah St and it showed big time.

Great win for the Vols largely because of the deficit in which they won.

Worley was turn over free but some of those wild passes will be picked by better talented and faster defenders. He sailed the ball to open receivers and threw a number in the dirt.

The running game was virtually non existent against a team that the Vols should have been able to push up and down the field. Lane needs to be ran to near death, with Hurd getting his share of the load too.

If this is going to be a pass happy offense and pass first mentality, they are in for a miserable season.
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Heyyy...don't talk 'bout my Vols!! :machgun:
 
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madbamahater said:
Utah State was vastly overrated. They started virtually a brand new OL as well. Keeton is not a Heisman candidate. They may win some games in their weak ass conference. The "experts" were wrong about them. UT, as deficient in depth as they are, were superior in talent to Utah St and it showed big time.

Great win for the Vols largely because of the deficit in which they won.

Worley was turn over free but some of those wild passes will be picked by better talented and faster defenders. He sailed the ball to open receivers and threw a number in the dirt.

The running game was virtually non existent against a team that the Vols should have been able to push up and down the field. Lane needs to be ran to near death, with Hurd getting his share of the load too.

If this is going to be a pass happy offense and pass first mentality, they are in for a miserable season.
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I think you need to ask your psychiatrist for stronger anti-depressants and he/she needs to to treat your delusional thoughts! Wait, better than that, move to Alabama and start supporting Kiffin!! You seriously know absolutely nothing about football!!
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