Its about to get real

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Carl Pickens said:
Are we talking about the greatest tag team in wrestling history?
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Indeed… They are also the namesake for the Mulkey Cup - a coffee cup with their picture on it that my friend in Columbia, SC jokingly pass back and forth based on who wins the TN/SC game.

And, no . . . I’m not kidding.

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luthervol said:
You can pick the phone back up, there was really no need to hang up in the first place.
I have voted D in every presidential election since 1980. I would love to see some better options for a change, maybe '24.

I hope you don't giggle as if that is some kind of gotcha.
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Like this is a shock to me….I bet you have a CCP tshirt and a poster of Mao
 
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luthervol said:
You can pick the phone back up, there was really no need to hang up in the first place.
I have voted D in every presidential election since 1980. I would love to see some better options for a change, maybe '24.

I hope you don't giggle as if that is some kind of gotcha.
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You men you actually even voted for Mondale 😬?
<shudder>. You poor poor man
 
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If LG says it’s going to “get real”, it’s pretty safe to assume the opposite is going to happen.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
So the fact that the two main contenders for 24, one of whom has consistently supported the other, are about to be at the same convention, is irrelevant? Seems like a Smart Guy conclusion.
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Candace Owens should run in 2024 as well. I'm sure you would love that.
 
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luthervol said:
...I have always voted for the viable candidate who I believe to be best, or least worst.
I'm dying for there to be a viable 3rd option that I could support.
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That you voted for Jimmy Carter says all that is needed about how bad your judgement is.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
That you voted for Jimmy Carter says all that is needed about how bad your judgement is.
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A lot of people voted for Jimmy Carter. He even won the entire South in 1976 except for the state of Virginia. Some states in the south he won by double digits. Which also dismisses the ridiculous "southern strategy" theory democrats like to obsess about from time to time.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
You men you actually even voted for Mondale 😬?
<shudder>. You poor poor man
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I was not a Reagan fan in the least.
The King of debt. That will forever be his legacy in my mind.
Whenever I hear any of you guys bemoaning the national debt, my first fault is, "but didn't you like Reagan?"
 
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DonjoVol said:
A lot of people voted for Jimmy Carter. He even won the entire South in 1976 except for the state of Virginia. Some states in the south he won by double digits. Which also dismisses the ridiculous "southern strategy" theory democrats like to obsess about from time to time.
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In 1976, no one really knew better. By 1980, they pretty well knew how inept he really was.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
That you voted for Jimmy Carter says all that is needed about how bad your judgement is.
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I hope it says everything about my judgement.
I too use it as a litmus test when evaluating a persons judgement.
The "he's a good man but was a horrible president" crowd grade out at a C-.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
In 1976, no one really knew better. By 1980, they pretty well knew how inept he really was.
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That's not necessarily true. He still came very close to winning some of the same southern states in 1980. Reagan won Tennessee by less than 1% that election. The old school religious conservative democrats that were still around back then seemed to like the guy.
 
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DonjoVol said:
That's not necessarily true. He still came very close to winning some of the same southern states in 1980. Reagan won Tennessee by less than 1% that election. The old school religious conservative democrats that were still around back then seemed to like the guy.
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Well okay, you're right. Carter won 49 electoral votes to Reagan's 489 with Georgia being the only southern state that did not flip Republican from 1976. Based on that, it has to be true no one had a clue Carter was inept.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
Well okay, you're right. Carter won 49 electoral votes to Reagan's 489 with Georgia being the only southern state that did not flip Republican from 1976. Based on that, it has to be true no one had a clue Carter was inept.
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I'm just pointing out that he still came very close to winning some southern states. Also, John Anderson received almost 7% of the vote that election. I'm not sure if that took more votes from Reagan or Carter. Reagan also seemed to have his strongest support in the West and Midwest. Ford also has strong support in those regions in 1976.

Still, Carter did not get blown out near as bad as McGovern did in 1972. McGovern couldn't even win his home state.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I'm just pointing out that he still came very close to winning some southern states. Also, John Anderson received almost 7% of the vote that election. I'm not sure if that took more votes from Reagan or Carter. Reagan also seemed to have his strongest support in the West and Midwest. Ford also has strong support in those regions in 1976.

Still, Carter did not get blown out near as bad as McGovern did in 1972. McGovern couldn't even win his home state.
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I'm pointing out that after four years in office, the country pretty much as a whole decided he was incompetent. Those southern states he came close to winning in 1980 had significant shifts in their votes from 1976. Georgia had a 7% swing, probably that small only because he was from there. Those swings were not because he was a good President. Reagan won Georgia by almost 21% in 1984 and it was not because a bunch of Republicans moved into the state.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I've mentioned her name a few times. Apparently she's not well liked by some of the more conservative and libertarian men in here. Not sure why.
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Because you present her as a valid political option when she's simply an actor repeating a script. Pretty sure we have enough not very smart people in office
 
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