It's Done - Strong will be announced [unconfirmed]

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MFL said:
All the silence by Hart I hope he chokes on it...this is so pathetic...We need a new AD
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You are right. He should let everyone know what he is doing every evening like all the other ADs do when searching for their coach.
 
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Volstylexx said:
My guy at UT says it's a done deal, will be announced Wednesday. Expects it to be around $3.75 mil a year.

I personally don't agree with this hire. Not impressed with what he's done at Louisville in a weak Big East. Others will disagree, say he's a great recruiter. I'm not sold.

But I do know it's a step up from Dooley.
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If he is givien good money for assistant coaches i thik this is a home run hire
 
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MFL said:
Gundy or Gruden Soon...Please Save us
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I can see why some people would like Gundy, but he ain't SEC material. We don't need another coach that has to win by shootouts. We also don't need another frat boy with perfect hair on the sideline. We need a mass murdering doll on the sideline.
 
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My sources are saying if Strong is hired then 80k at games the next 3 years, maybe go 6-6 or at best 7-5 each year and to top it off...we will be paying him another coaches buyout in 4 years. :yes:
 
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I do not understand how they would pay Charlie Strong that amount of money. Sounds far too much for a resume like that. Note: Tennessee has always played the cheap way, so one would think theres no way Strong gets 3.75 mil. I just do not see it. maybe 2.75, so that's why I call this not true. Maybe Hart is not interviewing in New York, he may already have his hands full and like what he has seen, but unless Gundy has told him No thanks, the party is not over just yet. He would give Gundy the time to make a decision, and I would think they would go after Gundy if they could. JMO But still, 3.75 to come from Louisville to the SEC to rebuild a broken program, that's a home-run type coach number, unless it was the upper echelon (Saban, Gruden, Stoops, etc.)
 
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BigOrangeCrush32 said:
It is our way of saying we do not support this hire....it is the only way the administration will hear us is by not spending our money on them.....I will still cheer the team...just not the coach.....and why should I spend my money on something unproven....if he was a new stock in the stock market....would you invest? No, you would wait to see how it performs first....
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So, financially hurting the university...

This is our football team, not a stock.

Whatever... We each deal with it as we see fit, I guess. :ermm:
 
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Volstylexx said:
My guy at UT says it's a done deal, will be announced Wednesday. Expects it to be around $3.75 mil a year.

I personally don't agree with this hire. Not impressed with what he's done at Louisville in a weak Big East. Others will disagree, say he's a great recruiter. I'm not sold.

But I do know it's a step up from Dooley.
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Where have I heard this before?
 
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CincyVol2 said:
Again....besides Gruden (who ISN'T INTERESTED IN THE JOB) Who do you want that is a realistic candidate?
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I want it known that the quote tags are messed up. You were quoting BigOrangeCrush, though my name showed up in the quote. I don't want my name anywhere near his opinion on that one.

As a matter of fact, any chance of you editing your post, and fixing the quote tags? (Thx)

It's bad enough our names are so similar.
 
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BristolVol said:
My sources are saying if Strong is hired then 80k at games the next 3 years, maybe go 6-6 or at best 7-5 each year and to top it off...we will be paying him another coaches buyout in 4 years. :yes:
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Well Louisville went from not having anyone at their games and a 4-8 season to in just 3 years having a packed stadium week in and week out and going to a BCS bowl.

I dunno about you, but I think that drastic of a turnaround is good enough to warrant a try in the SEC..

And before anyone says "it's just the big east", well, yeah, and he's using Big East talent too. It's not like he's using SEC talent against Big East talent. No reason to think with his success at Louisville and as a DC in the SEC that he can't take SEC talent and beat SEC talent.
 
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don't believe the hype. Strong has not been hired. If for some terrible reason he is chosen, it will not be for that amount.
 
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Friend of mine who happens to be UofL fan just told me that strong might be forced out of UofL bc of something he said at press conference today. Anyone hear of this?
 
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DNBVOL said:
So you are admitting that Strong will not be able to compete with Bama,Ga,Fla,SC? Point proven
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WTF? How did you get that out of my post? I never said anything that was even close. Your just another fkn butt hurt whiner. Seriously you people are destroying this program while pretending to care.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
So, financially hurting the university...

This is our football team, not a stock.

Whatever... We each deal with it as we see fit, I guess. :ermm:
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I will be officially on strike if they hire Strong...... I am not paying to watch Vols on PPV...I will go to a neighbors house to watch..

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LebanonVolunteer said:
So CS gets credit for all the recruiting done at a school like Florida. Interesting. If he is so good at recruiting, it should transfer over to his new school no matter where it is. I did note that Louisville always had better classes than Cinci before strong got there. Now, not so much. Another interesting observation.
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He got Teddy Bridgewater to go to Louisville over offers from several big time programs.

Take a look at their roster: Lot's of Florida kids

Obviously, their classes aren't great, but I'd say he recruited Miami kids pretty well for a school with very little facilities or football tradition.

As for the Cincy and Lville comparison, I'm not sure what observation you made.
Charlie Strong has out-recruited Butch Jones 2 out of 3 years, but if you look closer, you see that he has added 8 4* players in the last 3 years, while Butch Jones has signed just 2. The only reason Cincy's 2012 class is ranked higher than Louisville's is because Cincy signed 30 players to Lville's 22. Prior to Strong and Jones, Brian Kelly(cincy) out recruited Steve Kragthorpe(Lville) 2 out of 3 years, but again Lville signed more 4*'s. Prior to Kelly's hiring in 2006, Cincinatti's recruiting was a dumpster fire(70's-80's). Meanwhile, Louisville coach, wait for it, Bobby Petrino consistently had classes in the 40 - 50 range with the exception of the 2006 class which was Petrino's last year at Lville.

So basically, Louisville has usually had classes in 40 - 50 range prior to Strong, and now has classes in 30 - 40 range with Strong. Cincy recruiting improved a ton when Brian Kelly was hired.

(Higher ranked class in bold:
2012: Cincy #34 (signed 30, 0 4*); Lville #42 (signed 22, 3 4*)
2011: Cincy #42 (signed 25, 1 4*); Lville #33 (signed 21, 3 4*)
2010: Cincy #61 (signed 23, 1 4*); Lville #44 (signed 27, 2 4*)

*** Charlie Strong hired December, 2009 2 months before signing day 2010 ***
*** Butch Jones hired December, 2009 2 months before signing day 2010 ***

2009: Cincy #53 (signed 24, 2 4*); Lville #64 (signed 25, 1 4*)
2008: Cincy #51 (signed 24, 0 4*); Lville #54 (signed 22, 1 4*)
2007: Cincy #80 (signed 23, 0 4*); Lville #47 (signed 16, 6 4*)

*** Steve Kragthorpe hired by Louisville Jan 2009 just before signing day ***
*** Brian Kelly hired by Cincinatti December 2006 2 months before signing day ***

2006: Cincy #70 (signed 18, 1 4*); Lville #26 (signed 29, 1 5*, 4 4*)
2005: Cincy #70 (signed 24, 0 4*); Lville #43 (signed 27, 5 4*)
2004: Cincy #75 (signed 21, 0 4*); Lville #54 (signed 24, 1 4*)
2003: Cincy #84 (signed 24, 0 4*); Lville #48 (signed 31, 1 4*)
*** Bobby Petrino Lville head coach 2003 - 2006 ***


tl;dr: Prior to Brian Kelly (Lville recruiting >>>>>>>>>> Cincy recruiting).
After Brian Kelly (Lville recruiting == Cincy recruiting)

All stats from Scout Recruiting Rankings
 
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Blackmarket803 said:
I can see why some people would like Gundy, but he ain't SEC material. We don't need another coach that has to win by shootouts. We also don't need another frat boy with perfect hair on the sideline. We need a mass murdering doll on the sideline.
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He will have money to hire a good DC, I guarantee it
 
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volfanngaytorland said:
He will have money to hire a good DC, I guarantee it
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He's had money at Oklahoma State as well, and has yet to succeed at hiring a good one, as T Boone Pickens has dumped as much money into that program as any other program in the nation. Who is to say he would be able to do any different here?
 
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