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#251
#251
AirVol said:
Oh, so you’ve been wearing a mask since childhood. Bet you got a lot of attention.
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The chastising from this group is so stupid.

For once in their life, they demand the mask. Who cares if their not wearing a mask for the past 40 years happened to transmit a virus that ended up killing someone. Those years didnt matter, THIS time it matters. Dumb as hell.
 
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#252
tennvols77 said:
You consider anyone not thinking like you to be inconsiderate and thoughtless......So, I ask, why are you not the thoughtless and inconsiderate one, to have society adapt so you can feel better and more secure about trying to live another day, because you are the one at risk......

I don't want to be rude or insulting or demeaning or anything, just talking here, so please don't ever construe anything other than just trying to have a dialogue PT, I don't want to insult you or make you feel anything in a personal or direct manner, that is not my intent, if it comes off that way it isn't meant to, and I'll be first apologize if it comes off that way, that's not what I want, I just want open honest dialogue.
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Wow.

I'm not at any elevated risk, nor is my immediate family. We're all healthy with no underlying conditions but not everyone is as fortunate and it's absolutely thoughtless to not acknowledge that reality. The world changed, you can stomp your feet, throw a tantrum and deny it, but it has. Why resist or fight playing such a small part in simply doing the right thing when it could potentially help keep others safe?
 
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allvol123 said:
The chastising from this group is so stupid.

For once in their life, they demand the mask. Who cares if their not wearing a mask for the past 40 years happened to transmit a virus that ended up killing someone. Those years didnt matter, THIS time it matters. Dumb as hell.
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There hasn't been a pandemic like this since 1918, no one's following that straw-man down the rabbit hole.
 
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Septic said:
There hasn't been a pandemic like this since 1918, no one's following that straw-man down the rabbit hole.
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It isnt straw man. It is legit.

Pandemic has nothing to do with lethality. To mention this in the same breath as 1918 is pure idiocy.

When someone dies of this they have most likely already lived beyond average life expectancy. In the other part of your entire adult life, thousands upon thousands of children have died from the flu, losing 50-60 years of life. And you didnt do squat.
 
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allvol123 said:
It isnt straw man. It is legit.

Pandemic has nothing to do with lethality. To mention this in the same breath as 1918 is pure idiocy.

When someone dies of this they have most likely already lived beyond average life expectancy. In the other part of your entire adult life, thousands upon thousands of children have died from the flu, losing 50-60 years of life. And you didnt do squat.
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You said

allvol123 said:
For once in their life, they demand the mask. Who cares if their not wearing a mask for the past 40 years happened to transmit a virus that ended up killing someone. Those years didnt matter, THIS time it matters. Dumb as hell.
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At no point in the last 40 years has there been a global pandemic approaching this magnitude. Not MERS, SARS, H5N1 or Swine Flu.

You set up the straw-man hoss, I knocked it down.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
 
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Septic said:
There hasn't been a pandemic like this since 1918, no one's following that straw-man down the rabbit hole.
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It happens every year yet we know when it's coming, have a vaccine and still lose tens of thousands including children. No closures, no masks, no businesses closed, schools open, etc
 
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Septic said:
You said



At no point in the last 40 years has there been a global pandemic approaching this magnitude. Not MERS, SARS, H5N1 or Swine Flu.

You set up the straw-man hoss, I knocked it down.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
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How many under 18s have died from the flu in your adult life? Surely, using this highly effective mask plan you could have prevented some death, right?

Why didnt you?
 
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USMC-TNVOL said:
I believe abortions shouldn’t be allowed past a certain point. However, I know the difference between wearing a mask to help prevent the spread of the virus and a decision that affects mainly the woman. What is it that is so triggering about wearing a mask that will help prevent the spread of the virus?
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An abortion doesnt affect "mainly" the woman. It "mainly" affects the baby as it is killed.
 
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tennvols77 said:
You consider anyone not thinking like you to be inconsiderate and thoughtless......So, I ask, why are you not the thoughtless and inconsiderate one, to have society adapt so you can feel better and more secure about trying to live another day, because you are the one at risk......

I don't want to be rude or insulting or demeaning or anything, just talking here, so please don't ever construe anything other than just trying to have a dialogue PT, I don't want to insult you or make you feel anything in a personal or direct manner, that is not my intent, if it comes off that way it isn't meant to, and I'll be first apologize if it comes off that way, that's not what I want, I just want open honest dialogue.
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tennvols77, I have not felt offended by anything you've written about me or my comments. I appreciate what you wrote and I agree with you 100%. It is about dialogue and I forget that sometimes.

No, I do not want society to adapt. I want people to be cautious during this pandemic. I do think wearing a mask shows you are concerned for others. My health is great and I am not as worried as some who are in similar straits.
 
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#265
utvolpj said:
It happens every year yet we know when it's coming, have a vaccine and still lose tens of thousands including children. No closures, no masks, no businesses closed, schools open, etc
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Not at this magnitude and it's not even close in lethality, it's a straw-man to compare this with the seasonal flu.

Study Shows COVID-19 Body Count 20 Times Higher Than Seasonal Flu Deaths

Why Comparing Flu and COVID-19 Severity Is Not Equivalent

New research shows that counted deaths from COVID-19 in mid-April were about 20 times greater than seasonal influenza counted deaths recorded during peak weeks of the past seven flu seasons.

If true, the assessment would provide a stinging rebuttal to policy makers and politicians who've maintained that the coronavirus is no more deadly than the seasonal flu. As of Wednesday, May 20, COVID-19 has killed more than 93,500 Americans.

"The demand on hospital resources during the COVID-19 crisis has not occurred before in the US, even during the worst of influenza seasons," co-authors Jeremy Samuel Faust, MD, of Harvard Medical School, and Carlos Del Rios, MD, of Emory University School of Medicine wrote in JAMA Internal Medicine.

"Yet public officials continue to draw comparisons between seasonal influenza and SARS-CoV-2 mortality, often in an attempt to minimize the effects of the unfolding pandemic," they wrote.
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Septic said:
Wow.

I'm not at any elevated risk, nor is my immediate family. We're all healthy with no underlying conditions but not everyone is as fortunate and it's absolutely thoughtless to not acknowledge that reality. The world changed, you can stomp your feet, throw a tantrum and deny it, but it has. Why resist or fight playing such a small part in simply doing the right thing when it could potentially help keep others safe?
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Because 1. it makes Trump look bad 2. It infringes on THEIR selfish lives = screw yours, their mothers, fathers, sisters , brothers, aunts, uncles, and kid. Onelulilreb said it best. He gave us all the finger. 3. Their convinced it’s a conspiracy 4. Only salvation is herd immunity which needs 70,000,000 cases in U.S. 5, they just don’t g a f Sums it up

No reasoning
 
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#268
utvols88 said:
Who was more affected by the shooting in the Arbery case? Arbery or the McMichaels?

Arbery, because hes dead. Same ****.
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Completely irrelevant. A baby relies on a woman to survive. To say a woman is completely unaffected by a pregnancy shows how little you know.
 
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Septic said:
Not at this magnitude and it's not even close in lethality, it's a straw-man to compare this with the seasonal flu.

Study Shows COVID-19 Body Count 20 Times Higher Than Seasonal Flu Deaths
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Not with the initial limited testing it's not. We were caught by surprise but the impact will not be much greater. I personally view an illness that can kill children to be more deadly than one approaching the average US lifespan numbers. Remove Cuomo murders and nursing home deaths and this is really overblown
 
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#272
You can lead a horse to water but you can’t lead a horses a$$ to mask. Horses who don’t ultimately drink, die. Tough sh!t. Go for it. Don’t wear a mask. Show us how smart and brave you are. Big boy
 
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USMC-TNVOL said:
Completely irrelevant. A baby relies on a woman to survive. To say a woman is completely unaffected by a pregnancy shows how little you know.
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1. I didn't say the mother was unaffected. You said she is mostly affected, which isn't true, as the baby is killed.

2. A one year old relies on the mother, a dementia patient relies on someone, the cerebral palsy child relies on the guardians. Your argument that reliability somehow dehumanizes a person is rather telling.
 
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#275
allvol123 said:
How many under 18s have died from the flu in your adult life? Surely, using this highly effective mask plan you could have prevented some death, right?

Why didnt you?
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Are you going to keep moving the goal posts until you can finally pigeon hole something that works?

Comparing this pandemic to the seasonal flu is absurd, if it's what you need to do to make yourself feel better about resisting having to wear a mask at Costco - good for you. But you should know it's a stupid rationale.
 
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