Jabari McGhee to WKU

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calban said:
Very recent history DA. We're talking tradition.
You should realize that your biased opinion doesn't negate the opinions of paid analysts.
And that's just what they are opinions. If yours is different so be it , then stfu about it.
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DA? You're calling me a dumb ass?

How many were putting more than 12,700 that were packed into Stokely? What about the history of the SECT before it as reinstated in 1979? Which team had the most championships after KY? Do you know the guy's name that had the career double double average decades before Bernard? Do you know the name of the UT coach that won half of his games versus KY? Maybe you're the one that should "stfu".
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
The same UT that did it just to be bigger than Rupp, despite rarely being able to fill it?

The first 19 years of existence (pre-Pearl) TBA attendance averaged 15,274 yet it held 24,535. In its history we've averaged 16,261. Having the biggest means nothing if you can't/don't fill it.
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That's a reply to the absence of history BEFORE it was built. But since you brought it up, name the schools with higher attendance figures. And that was during the worst 10-15 years of TN basketball in the last 50 or more years.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
DA? You're calling me a dumb ass?

How many were putting more than 12,700 that were packed into Stokely? What about the history of the SECT before it as reinstated in 1979? Which team had the most championships after KY? Do you know the guy's name that had the career double double average decades before Bernard? Do you know the name of the UT coach that won half of his games versus KY? Maybe you're the one that should "stfu".
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Most on here don't walk around trying to discredit other's opinions like you do. You seem to think you're God's gift to the information age. I made the statement that one list had TN in the 60s and WKU at 24 as far as all time programs. That was that analyst's opinion. And he based it on his research. You don't agree. Fine
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
DA? You're calling me a dumb ass?

How many were putting more than 12,700 that were packed into Stokely? What about the history of the SECT before it as reinstated in 1979? Which team had the most championships after KY? Do you know the guy's name that had the career double double average decades before Bernard? Do you know the name of the UT coach that won half of his games versus KY? Maybe you're the one that should "stfu".
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I'm always confused when UT fans criticize UK's accomplishments in the SEC but then some brag about UTs. Not saying you are doing it, just a thought.
 
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calban said:
Now, you're about as short sighted as a one eyed out house rat, so let me lay one on ya.
If it wasn't for Ernie and Bernie and 6 years of Pearl, the average TN fan wouldn't even know there was a bb program in Knoxville. To make it even worse most could care less.
TN is a football school. Basketball is an after thought.
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TN had 15 All Americans BEFORE Ernie and Bernie.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
We can hate on them... but don't they have more wins than every other program?
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I mean like the UT fans that say accomplishments in the SEC are useless because competition is weak. Some then toot UTs horn as 2nd in the conference. Idk, not many argue it, just a thing I've ran into before.
 
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calban said:
Most on here don't walk around trying to discredit other's opinions like you do. You seem to think you're God's gift to the information age. I made the statement that one list had TN in the 60s and WKU at 24 as far as all time programs. That was that analyst's opinion. And he based it on his research. You don't agree. Fine
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Is that your opinion?
 
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LittleCat said:
I mean like the UT fans that say accomplishments in the SEC are useless because competition is weak. Some then toot UTs horn as 2nd in the conference. Idk, not many argue it, just a thing I've ran into before.
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It can be argued that Alabama is #2. I believe that head-to-head they have the edge over TN.

The SEC also had Pistol Pete, Shaq, Chris Jackson, Dominique, Sir Charles, USCe was #1 before they joined the conference, Arkansas and Florida have Nattys, Johnny Newman, Vanderbilt has been a good program a long time, TR Dunn, Leon Douglas...
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
That's a reply to the absence of history BEFORE it was built. But since you brought it up, name the schools with higher attendance figures. And that was during the worst 10-15 years of TN basketball in the last 50 or more years.
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Of course that's in absence of history before it, cause you were referring to TBA. Why would I talk about attendance pre-TBA when you explicitly mentioned it's erecting? 16k per game is likely good for top 10 annually. That doesn't excuse that we have had little need for an arena of that magnitude. 13k at Stokley doesn't beget 25k.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Of course that's in abscense of history before it, cause you were referring to TBA. Why would I talk about attendance pre-TBA when you explicitly mentioned it's erecting? 16k per game is likely good for top 10 annually. That doesn't excuse that we have had little need for an arena of that magnitude. 13k at Stokley doesn't beget 25k.
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Point is, 25,000 seat arenas aren't built for programs with no history.

A 25,000 seat arena wasn't too large based upon the quality of the program in the 1970s. Had DAD and Lamar not damn near killed the program, the TBA would gave been consistently sold out.
 
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IndianapolisVol said:
Sweet bro. Used to work for the man in sales too. Worked at a top 5 insurance MGA out of college, I had 5 internships w the same company during undergrad and they paid for my MBA, then started my own agency 18 months ago in North Indy. Sales is a great career, not for everyone but there is no better feeling than landing an account that you never thought you'd get. This whole month had been slow today and at 6:15 right before I left the office I got the go ahead to bind a large commercial account. So stoked. Completely re-energized me going into the holiday. Sales is a fickle thing.

One thing I miss about working for the man is shutting off my company iPhone at 5:30 everyday and not worrying about work. Having a business means having a payroll, taxes, staffing issues, etc. work is 24/7. But I wouldn't trade it for the world.
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Preach it Brother but add govt over regs and it can make you crazy.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
The same UT that did it just to be bigger than Rupp, despite rarely being able to fill it?

The first 19 years of existence (pre-Pearl) TBA attendance averaged 15,274 yet it held 24,535. In its history we've averaged 16,261. Having the biggest means nothing if you can't/don't fill it.
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This could go so many ways. But, being the biggest never hurt. Well, I guess it could.
 
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JacketVol said:
This could go so many ways. But, being the biggest never hurt. Well, I guess it could.
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I can't deny that. I loved bragging saying we had the biggest. Just kind of embarrassing when the curtains come/came out and it was like a cavern in there. 15k people right on top of you and sound to the ceiling would likely be better than 15k with 10 empty seats above you just absorbing noise and feeling lonely cause no one is sitting in them.

Part of the larger attendance argument for us is that other schools have smaller arenas so they can't draw more than us, not that they wouldn't. Breslin Center at MSU holds like 14k. So if we average 16k we "outdrew" them. If given the opportunity, I have little doubt that Izzo and Co couldn't draw more than 14k. Same goes for KU at Allen Fieldhouse or Duke and Cameron. We've never been limited by our capacity, schools like that are.
 
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Ray should transfer 2...he's one of the best players on team and CRB is deliberately ruining his career...smh
 
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Kasongor said:
Ray should transfer 2...he's one of the best players on team and CRB is deliberately ruining his career...smh
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Not sure if that's the case, but Kasongo riding the bench this season is a puzzlement to me.

Think it's more about decisions Barnes made before the season started. An experiment that will most likely produce his worst season ever.
 
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calban said:
Not sure if that's the case, but Kasongo riding the bench this season is a puzzlement to me.

Think it's more about decisions Barnes made before the season started. An experiment that will most likely produce his worst season ever.
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Calling for <13 wins? Quite the shift in mindset from ya Cal
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Calling for <13 wins? Quite the shift in mindset from ya Cal
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Wasn't his worse season 14-17 at Prov.
I'm expecting 13 or 14 wins.
4-1 system isn't Barnes. And with Reese pulling 20+ minutes it's actually a 5 guard system.
Actually had 5 guards on the floor in the last of the ETSU game.
Fine against the ETSUs but he's going to take a beating in the SEC where they keep pounding it inside like the Zags did and the talent is equal to or better than you have on the floor.

When I was talking 20 wins before the season started I had visions of McGhee and Kasongo as a front court. Barnes abandoned the idea of a front court before the season got off the ground.
This is what's going to end in an ugly experiment.
 
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calban said:
Wasn't his worse season 14-17 at Prov.
I'm expecting 13 or 14 wins.
4-1 system isn't Barnes. And with Reese pulling 20+ minutes it's actually a 5 guard system.
Actually had 5 guards on the floor in the last of the ETSU game.
Fine against the ETSUs but he's going to take a beating in the SEC where they keep pounding it inside like the Zags did and the talent is equal to or better than you have on the floor.

When I was talking 20 wins before the season started I had visions of McGhee and Kasongo as a front court. Barnes abandoned the idea of a front court before the season got off the ground.
This is what's going to end in an ugly experiment.
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Yes worst season was 14 wins, so if you're saying he's gonna have his worst season ever that means he'll fail to reach 14 wins in your opinion.

Didn't we almost beat the Zags? Yet now you're saying we're going to take a beating against similarly manned teams, I would hardly consider the Gonzaga game a beating?

No, I'm not suggesting he's gonna win 20 games and make the NCAAT, but I definitely am extremely confident that barring some unforeseen tragedy this team will win more than 13 games.

The back to the basket big guys like Sabonas aren't found on every SEC roster, in fact that's one of the current knocks on UK is that they have no back to the basket post option. No I'm not saying we will beat UK, but army had some big guy down low and he hardly dominated us.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Yes worst season was 14 wins, so if you're saying he's gonna have his worst season ever that means he'll fail to reach 14 wins in your opinion.

Didn't we almost beat the Zags? Yet now you're saying we're going to take a beating against similarly manned teams, I would hardly consider the Gonzaga game a beating?

No, I'm not suggesting he's gonna win 20 games and make the NCAAT, but I definitely am extremely confident that barring some unforeseen tragedy this team will win more than 13 games.

The back to the basket big guys like Sabonas aren't found on every SEC roster, in fact that's one of the current knocks on UK is that they have no back to the basket post option. No I'm not saying we will beat UK, but army had some big guy down low and he hardly dominated us.
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For now, I'll stick to my concern.
If we start the SEC season better than 0-4 I may have to reconsider.
As for the Zags, close only counts in horseshoes.
 
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