Jalen Reeves-Maybin shot Sunday in Clarksville

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so you're saying the bullet was intended for him? because if it wasn't, then I stand by my original statement
 
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All this "out too late" stuff is just BS. Anyone has a right to be most (not all mind you) anywhere they want to be at anytime as long as they don't have larceny in their heart. And being out late with buds having fun is what being young and in college is all about. I know a kid that just graduated UT with highest honors last week. It was only chance that that friend group wasn't in the middle of the street party in Fort Sanders right where the officers started arresting everyone in sight and the kid got choked. They just happened to choose to go elsewhere right before it started. But only chance kept the from being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Jalen, just a couple of houses down from his own home, certainly learned about Miss Fortune.
 
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terrypedigo said:
What was he doing out at 2.45, I know he is young and all that but this day and time you are asking for something bad to happen at that time of morning.
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When did it become a rule that if you're having a good time and it's 3 AM...you're begging to get shot? :blink:
 
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Guns in our culture--soooo stupid. NRA freaks probably wonder why JRM didn't have a piece of his own--he could have fired back in the direction of the first gunshot and "protected" himself.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
I suppose so. If you're going to throw the "culture" card out, which we know is a substitute for something else, even it up. Given incidents of vehicular murders in Mississippi. Speeding up instead of slowing or stopping when minority people are in crosswalks. Walking up to the same in certain exclusive bastions, displaying a gun and patting it them pointing at the target with your finger and making a shooting motion. Even when it's a delivery person helping your neighbor unload lumber he ordered. Humans exhibit spiteful and disgusting behavior towards one another---period. So evil-hearted and putrid are humans that terrifying as it is to be a target of God's wrath, David feared the sheer level of man's capacity for evil even more. 1 Chronicles 21:1-13

As a final note, the greatest cultivators, distributors, and sellers of marijuana plus meth have not been who the media portrays. They are the highly skilled growers and processors who dwell in the "cultural" bastions of the Appalachians and communities adjacent to state and national parks and forests. Some locations you run the risk of death by boobytraps if you hike or backpack in certain areas. So I guess it is culture as you say. Just don't whitewash it. far as I'm concerned, no culture is innocent when it comes to poisoning communities, institutions, and worse of all, kids. And the subsequent violence bred by the whole mess.
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Excellent Post! In my post when I mentioned "the crowd he runs with" was not in any way targeting a specific "culture" and you hit the nail on the head. No matter the race there are bad seeds that reap evil deeds
 
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armchair said:
Guns in our culture--soooo stupid. NRA freaks probably wonder why JRM didn't have a piece of his own--he could have fired back in the direction of the first gunshot and "protected" himself.
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I'm not a NRA supporter. In what may be viewed as an oxymoron, I'm also not opposed to the NRA for the most part. I am opposed to stupidity. You don't need an AK-47 or AR-15 to hunt. See, we don't have mythical creatures like zombies, Mars Attacks Aliens, or other movieland monsters. And if you indeed need such weapons to hunt, you shouldn't be hunting in the first place. Spraying bullets in an area occupied by other hunters, farmers, and residents in outlying areas shouldn't happen.

The sad but not new fact is that increasing criminal behavior by, yes, I'm saying it. Immigrants, disenfranchised youth, people of various ages with mental instabilities that were almost unheard of when I was growing up, a general disregard for the value of human life, and youth raised on violent lyrics and video games that teach killing is a sport to be brutally honest. Thus making it necessary for people feel even if it wasn't justified, to own guns. We got ghetto gangs, skinheads, neo-nazis, infusions of Asian, Polynesian, Russian, and various other groups moving here and introducing a willingness to inflict harm and death without remorse. Plus they tend to have access to weaponry neither we nor cops had to face in the not too distant past.

But the biggest threat in my view is covert haters, bigots, and killers who via poorly thoughtout stand your ground laws are manipulating the law for excuse to overtly act on their hatreds and bigotry. The provoking and staging of incidents and claiming self-defense. We're going to see and more of this until and unless things change. If they don't, citizens of various factions will begin arming themselves and using cancelled and visible weapon laws to take us right back to the wild, wild west days. We're already seeing previews of this in road rage incidents, fun shooting on our highways and freeways, people being shot when seeking help after being in vehicle accidents and so forth. You're on my porch so it's OK to shoot you. The NRA's basic principles are OK but they are now endorsing things that contradict their claim to wanting to ensure safety of citizens. Not so much because the NRA is bad, rather that humans have a history of warping the best intentions into the most evil of uses. Case in point, there are actually people out there who believe if you are crossing the street but not in a crosswalk, they don't have to try to avoid hitting you or even blow their horn at you on approach.
 
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armchair said:
Guns in our culture--soooo stupid. NRA freaks probably wonder why JRM didn't have a piece of his own--he could have fired back in the direction of the first gunshot and "protected" himself.
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I guess your one of them take the guns away from law abiding people and hope the bad ones turn them in. I am a gun owner and a NRA member and a law abiding citizen, and there are many more TAKE UP GUN FREAKS that don't have a clue than NRA freaks. GO VOLS!!
 
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wildorange said:
I guess your one of them take the guns away from law abiding people and hope the bad ones turn them in. I am a gun owner and a NRA member and a law abiding citizen, and there are many more TAKE UP GUN FREAKS that don't have a clue than NRA freaks. GO VOLS!!
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Stop insulting Freak, he's a really nice person. :)
 
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armchair said:
Guns in our culture--soooo stupid. NRA freaks probably wonder why JRM didn't have a piece of his own--he could have fired back in the direction of the first gunshot and "protected" himself.
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This is a big world. Find a place that suits you.:hi:
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
I'm not a NRA supporter. In what may be viewed as an oxymoron, I'm also not opposed to the NRA for the most part. I am opposed to stupidity. You don't need an AK-47 or AR-15 to hunt. See, we don't have mythical creatures like zombies, Mars Attacks Aliens, or other movieland monsters. And if you indeed need such weapons to hunt, you shouldn't be hunting in the first place. Spraying bullets in an area occupied by other hunters, farmers, and residents in outlying areas shouldn't happen.
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you could have just said you don't know much about guns and ended it there. There is nothing wrong with using a semi-auto rifle to hunt. You're clearly the victim of worthless propaganda against the evil, black rifle
 
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xTRAVASSx said:
Makes me wonder the crowd he runs with. I have been to several parties in my life and not one time was the crowd shot at. Hope this is a wake up call for the young man and a sign to stay away from these people and places.
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Your parties must have been pretty lame....imo:bad:
 
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utvolpj said:
you could have just said you don't know much about guns and ended it there. There is nothing wrong with using a semi-auto rifle to hunt. You're clearly the victim of worthless propaganda against the evil, black rifle
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Ahh! The little Indian that thinks he's chief has spoken.
Whatever you say, kemo sabe.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Ahh! The little Indian that thinks he's chief has spoken.
Whatever you say, kemo sabe.
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All those fancy words bouncing around in your head and you respond with useless insults instead of refuting the point I made? Come on, give me 5 paragraphs on why a small caliber semiautomatic rifle like the AR is useless for hunting
 
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utvolpj said:
All those fancy words bouncing around in your head and you respond with useless insults instead of refuting the point I made? Come on, give me 5 paragraphs on why a small caliber semiautomatic rifle is useless for hunting
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A already did. All you have to do is ready the post about those weapons spraying bullets in an area with other hunters and residents who have homes in those areas. I have family members who hunt. They and their friends more than once have cut short trips and come back cussing the (unfit to print comments) acting like Machine Gun Kelly. And one of the guys with my son-in-law had two bullet holes in his car to back up what they said. Then you have the usual jackasses who think shooting up stop signs and other road signs is fun. Only with a semi- and fully automatic some of those bullets miss and go elsewhere. It less the guns that are the trouble than it is the proven stupidity of the gun owners. And you talk about small caliber semiautomatic rifles. I laugh, nay, guffaw because of the guns I've seen firsthand hauled out to hunting trips by braggarts, yep I said braggarts who want to show off what they're packing. Small caliber my azz.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
A already did. All you have to do is ready the post about those weapons spraying bullets in an area with other hunters and residents who have homes in those areas. I have family members who hunt. They and their friends more than once have cut short trips and come back cussing the (unfit to print comments) acting like Machine Gun Kelly. And one of the guys with my son-in-law had two bullet holes in his car to back up what they said. Then you have the usual jackasses who think shooting up stop signs and other road signs is fun. Only with a semi- and fully automatic some of those bullets miss and go elsewhere. It less the guns that are the trouble than it is the proven stupidity of the gun owners. And you talk about small caliber semiautomatic rifles. I laugh, nay, guffaw because of the guns I've seen firsthand hauled out to hunting trips by braggarts, yep I said braggarts who want to show off what they're packing. Small caliber my azz.
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WoodsmanVol said:
A already did. All you have to do is ready the post about those weapons spraying bullets in an area with other hunters and residents who have homes in those areas. I have family members who hunt. They and their friends more than once have cut short trips and come back cussing the (unfit to print comments) acting like Machine Gun Kelly. And one of the guys with my son-in-law had two bullet holes in his car to back up what they said. Then you have the usual jackasses who think shooting up stop signs and other road signs is fun. Only with a semi- and fully automatic some of those bullets miss and go elsewhere. It less the guns that are the trouble than it is the proven stupidity of the gun owners. And you talk about small caliber semiautomatic rifles. I laugh, nay, guffaw because of the guns I've seen firsthand hauled out to hunting trips by braggarts, yep I said braggarts who want to show off what they're packing. Small caliber my azz.
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What a load of crap. Not one person you've ever met has seen a person hunting in the woods with an automatic weapon. Not only are they illegal for most to own they're also pretty difficult to get

You specifically mentioned an AR in your post and followed it up with saying it had no place in hunting. That shows you have a very limited knowledge on the subject yet hope to hide it behind a wall of words.
 
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utvolpj said:
What a load of crap. Not one person you've ever met has seen a person hunting in the woods with an automatic weapon. Not only are they illegal for most to own they're also pretty difficult to get

You specifically mentioned an AR in your post and followed it up with saying it had no place in hunting. That shows you have a very limited knowledge on the subject yet hope to hide it behind a wall of words.
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The load of crap belongs to you. Since when have humans as a collective behaved legally? Many of them do but just as many don't. That includes hunting activity.

Now, here's where we're different Mr. Lord of All Things. I can admit you are right when it comes to my limited knowledge on what military type gun is what. I do know an AK-47, which you interestingly choose to not mention in your tirade at me. I have an idea what an AR-15 looks like and the guns I've seen when present with the braggarts I mentioned looked like them. Also my son-in-law mentioned them to me. I'd trust him before I trusted you. You also interestingly fail to mention the spraying of road signs with such gunfire which can be seen in many outlying areas and sometimes even on highways. I was present a few times when some showoffs did it.

Now take the crap you speak of and eat it for breakfast. It's clear the so-called discussion you wanted is nothing more than a desire to argue and insult which you accuse me of doing, not that I'm innocent of that. But hello pot, I'm kettle. Since you have no desire to discuss which is a method of educating, I suggest we cease exchanges. You're just like the argumentative jackals on the news a while back. Just pick one thing, in your case the AR-15 then there to attack, attack, and attack instead of discuss/educate the public. All the while ignoring everything else as you have done here. Hope the words I use aren't too big for you to hunt me as I supposedly hide behind them. So little Indian, go play pretend chief as you're wont to do.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
The load of crap belongs to you. Since when have humans as a collective behaved legally? Many of them do but just as many don't. That includes hunting activity.

Now, here's where we're different Mr. Lord of All Things. I can admit you are right when it comes to my limited knowledge on what military type gun is what. I do know an AK-47, which you interestingly choose to not mention in your tirade at me. I have an idea what an AR-15 looks like and the guns I've seen when present with the braggarts I mentioned looked like them. Also my son-in-law mentioned them to me. I'd trust him before I trusted you. You also interestingly fail to mention the spraying of road signs with such gunfire which can be seen in many outlying areas and sometimes even on highways. I was present a few times when some showoffs did it.
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an AK is still just a semi-auto rifle. Lots of rifles out there more accurate and powerful that you fail to mention. Just because it looks super scary to you doesn't mean it's any more dangerous than any other rifle.

your description of an AR is laughable. You still haven't explained why a small caliber, semi-auto weapon is so bad and dangerous to society. Is it simply because that's what you're being told to think by the media who wouldn't know an assault rifle from an Red Rider? What did your son in law say specifically? If he said there are an abundance of automatic AR's and AK's in the woods then he's telling you a whopper of a story.

signs are shot at by lots of different types of guns like 22's, shotguns, etc. Unless you are claiming to be able to tell the gun used by the bullet hole you viewed while driving past then that too is a useless observation.

you talk about being educated on the subject yet you seem to have no desire to do so. You take the word of one guy and form your opinion with that while ignoring the mounds of evidence to the contrary. But hey, everyone is entitled to an opinion I guess
 
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xTRAVASSx said:
Makes me wonder the crowd he runs with. I have been to several parties in my life and not one time was the crowd shot at. Hope this is a wake up call for the young man and a sign to stay away from these people and places.
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I've been to several parties as well. (OK hundreds)
If you will remember, he was in his neighborhood, 2 houses down from his own house. I wish that there weren't neighborhoods like this, and I hope a college education will allow him and his family to get out of "places like that". Of course, I don't know much about Clarksville, so I may be speaking out of turn about "places like that".
I don't know enough about the situation or area to blame anyone or defend anyone, I'm just glad that he is OK.
 
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utvolpj said:
an AK is still just a semi-auto rifle. Lots of rifles out there more accurate and powerful that you fail to mention. Just because it looks super scary to you doesn't mean it's any more dangerous than any other rifle.

your description of an AR is laughable. You still haven't explained why a small caliber, semi-auto weapon is so bad and dangerous to society. Is it simply because that's what you're being told to think by the media who wouldn't know an assault rifle from an Red Rider? What did your son in law say specifically? If he said there are an abundance of automatic AR's and AK's in the woods then he's telling you a whopper of a story.

signs are shot at by lots of different types of guns like 22's, shotguns, etc. Unless you are claiming to be able to tell the gun used by the bullet hole you viewed while driving past then that too is a useless observation.

you talk about being educated on the subject yet you seem to have no desire to do so. You take the word of one guy and form your opinion with that while ignoring the mounds of evidence to the contrary. But hey, everyone is entitled to an opinion I guess
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You're heading for a breakdown. Why don't you pull yourself to pieces?
 
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