Jaylen McCollough arrested

[walkenvol]

They have multiple witnesses on the scene. The police would’ve booked Zion as well if they thought there was a chance Jaylen was a victim of something.

I didn’t think there was anyone left in this world who still believes the police only arrest/book guilty folks!

 

[walkenvol]

My last opinion....

Any TN player that reflects poorly on the school should be cut loose.....

Argue otherwise......

Stupid take from someone who has never been a leader of a team of people. Getting arrested is far from ideal and initially “a poor reflection” on the program. But, getting arrested isn’t reason alone for throwing folks off the bus without fully investigating the incident - shows no loyalty from the leadership which damages their ability to lead the team.

 

[walkenvol]

He caused severe bodily harm to another person. Not sure how that’s crucifying him.

You don’t know this as all we know is what the police report said and Jaylen didn’t talk to the police. At this point it’s possible that the guy got punched inside Jaylen’s apartment then his drunk ass fell down some stairs causing his injuries. I’m shocked folks are so quick to jump straight to guilty for a guy who’s doesn’t have a known history of getting into trouble.

 

[walkenvol]

The problem is Jaylen may be innocent and people are just going to crucify him on the word of a drunken teenager/20something year old without seeing once fact about the case and if he misses a game over a justified punch, That's not justice.

This! 1000%

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Are you a racist dwight schrute or just playing a character?

Screw you. My issue is Heupel has TN at #6 and Jaylan' dealt his own hand without Heupel promising immunity.

Period. End of story.

Heupel wasn't sitting at #6 waiting on some dumbass Jaylan McCullough to do something stupid.

Does any of this occur without Jaylan McCullough creating it? It doesn't.

Eyes on the ball, y'all. This is on Jaylan and no one else.

 

[walkenvol]

Then Zion would be booked as well.

Your an idiot for believing the police get it right every time they do or don’t arrest someone. Have you ever heard of courts, judges, and lawyers along with innocent until proven guilty?

 

[mmajaz12]

Dumb!!!

 

[walkenvol]

Screw you. My issue is Heupel has TN at #6 and Jaylan' dealt his own hand without Heupel promising immunity.

Period. End of story.

Heupel wasn't sitting at #6 waiting on some dumbass Jaylan McCullough to do something stupid.

Does any of this occur without Jaylan McCullough creating it? It doesn't.

Eyes on the ball, y'all. This is on Jaylan and no one else.

Does any of this occur without some drunk dude illegally entering Jaylon’s home?

Heupel isn’t promising immunity, but if he isn’t promising support and to have your back until your clearly guilty of violating the team’s code of conduct then he’s never going to be the coach and recruiter we are hoping for.

 

[DynaLo]

You act like Knox police have never seen a beat down before.

What's wrong with you? Do you think the police give a damn about this particular beat down? Like they don't see fights...... like they don't see busted noses..... like they never see a split lip...... what the hell is wrong with you people? They charged this as a FELONY aggravated assault and you act like this is the first fight they've ever seen.

Seriously, remove the orange and white glasses, the police aren't looking to charge FELONY aggravated assault for no good reason.

Assault, sure. Aggravated assault, yeah. FELONY aggravated assault...... c'mon. Seriously, let's be reasonable.

I’m not the one totally freaking out over the word felony and embellishing what may have occurred without the facts.

I gave you examples of meeting the criteria of serious bodily injury directly from TN state law that are necessary for a charge of felony aggravated assault.

Assault is bodily injury.
Aggravated assault is assault with serious bodily injury.
Obvious disfigurement and extreme physical pain are both listed under Tn law definitions as serious bodily injury.

Aggravated assault can be either
A) intentionally or knowingly committed, a class C felony
or
B) recklessly committed, a class D felony

The Tennessee Codes concerning assault and aggravated assault contain pretty straightforward explanations. Definitions are alphabetized in 39-11-106 and the assaults are in 39-13-101 & 102 in case you’d like to read them yourself.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Your an idiot for believing the police get it right every time they do or don’t arrest someone. Have you ever heard of courts, judges, and lawyers along with innocent until proven guilty?

So Jaylan shows police and admits to a bandaged but bleeding hand........ his gf is helping a guy who has been punched to oblivion....... and that gf says that guy just entered the room of a UT football player whose hand is bandaged and bleeding......

but nobody surely got punched.......

I should believe this guy merely fell down the steps despite the blood from Jaylan's bandaged hand.

 

[Smokymtnbullet]

It’s the same reason Warren Burrell was starting until he got hurt. McCollough isn’t good, but he was the best we had. Saban will pick on his replacement, no doubt

As long as we have Hadden out there Saban or anyone else has somebody to pick on .He Hadden done anything good all season.

 

[walkenvol]

So Jaylan shows police and admits to a bandaged but bleeding hand........ his gf is helping a guy who has been punched to oblivion....... and that gf says that guy just entered the room of a UT football player whose hand is bandaged and bleeding......

but nobody surely got punched.......

I should believe this guy merely fell down the steps despite the blood from Jaylan's bandaged hand.

You shouldn’t believe anything yet! You’ve determined guilt based only on the fact Jaylon was accused and the police decided there was enough probable cause to arrest him. Jaylon was smart enough to keep his mouth shut. You don’t know shat, yet you’ve already got him off the team. Jaylon may be 100% in the wrong here, but he deserves to be viewed as innocent until PROVEN otherwise. Being accused and arrested DOES NOT PROVE anything.

 

[ThreatLevelOrange]

Everyone is entitled to a day in court. The AJ Johnson episode should’ve told us that.

With that said, Johnson never played another down for us. If he’s charged with a felony, Heupel has 2 choices. Play him or be willing to let this matter play out with him unable to play for the next 3 months. Even traffic violations take weeks to process.

This might be a teachable moment that you just have to walk away no matter what.

 

[ThreatLevelOrange]

Not concerned with conviction.

I'm concerned with what kind of program the TN Vols under Josh Heupel run.

If we're FL with Urban Meyer, fine..... own it. I'm not okay with it, but own it.

Heupel has had a pretty short leash. We just kicked off a couple of bench warmers for off the field stuff. And have we had any suspensions for drugs or missing class?

 

[walkenvol]

Your never going to get college aged highly conditioned athletes oozing testosterone who are playing a violent sport to flip some switch to think like a 40 year old and “just walk away no matter what”. That’s a dream world.

 

[ThreatLevelOrange]

Your never going to get college aged highly conditioned athletes oozing testosterone who are playing a violent sport to flip some switch to think like a 40 year old and “just walk away no matter what”. That’s a dream world.

It’s a sliding scale. As the “quality of athletes” improve, you see more arrests for violent crime. But there’s a big difference between Lawrence Phillips/Aaron Hernandez and someone who chose to punch someone in the face rather than call the cops. You can always choose to de escalate.

 

[Dudleys87]

Everyone is entitled to a day in court. The AJ Johnson episode should’ve told us that.

With that said, Johnson never played another down for us. If he’s charged with a felony, Heupel has 2 choices. Play him or be willing to let this matter play out with him unable to play for the next 3 months. Even traffic violations take weeks to process.

This might be a teachable moment that you just have to walk away no matter what.

The problem is your guilty until proven innocent.

 

[Sara Clark]

I don't know about any trouble prior to this incident, though many of you mentioned something else in his past that had happened. Should that play in to any decision here? I don't know. But after reading what happened, seems to me, he was OVERCHARGED. McCollough was in his apartment, what sounds like sleeping, when a drunk walked in to the wrong apartment. The guy said he did apologize for entering in the wrong apartment and told MCollough he didn't have to be a !!@$&%* about it. When he said that, drunk got punched. I don't know, the thought of some grace would be tempting here, assuming charges are dropped or down graded. JMO, having very limited knowledge of situation.

 

[walkenvol]

It’s a sliding scale. As the “quality of athletes” improve, you see more arrests for violent crime. But there’s a big difference between Lawrence Phillips/Aaron Hernandez and someone who chose to punch someone in the face rather than call the cops. You can always choose to de escalate.

It’s easy for me to de escalate as a 60 year old. Was a whole different ballgame when I was a 20 year old college athlete. Let a drunk come into my house and call me a dick today and I’m not promising no violence.

 

[Volador]

Smart kids stay out of dumb situations

 

[PEPPERJAX]

**** BISCUITS!!!

 

[Sara Clark]

Smart kids stay out of dumb situations

Isn't this different? He wasn't out looking for trouble. He was in his home when a drunk walked in.

 

[walkenvol]

Smart kids stay out of dumb situations

Smart kids learn to recognize dumb situations if they encounter enough of them. I’ve never encountered an uninvited intruder in my home and I’m not sure how I’d respond.

 

[Jeff Clark]

Coach Willie has some work to do this week with the DB’s.

What you see is what you get with this year's Tennessee secondary it's too late to make any big changes. This Tennessee team reminds me of the Late 1970s-Mid 1980s BYU teams or the 1980-1982 San Diego Chargers teams a hell of a lot of offense and poor defense.

 

[LakeMaryFLVol]

Not knowing all details or if narrative about going into apartment of accused is correct but if true ..Good attorney will have this go away. Mitigating factor is The alleged victim wrongly entered accused dwelling while accused was minding own business . Would wait this week to see how this one pans out. If CJH says today we are looking into what happened, this most likely will be pleaded down or dropped ( $ ) . If he is tossed today, they have the whole story and are confident in sources.