Jaylen McCollough arrested

[bicenTENNial]

Really…you feel sorry for street drug addicts? Dumb ass could not even find his apartment if he even had an apartment. It’s ok to protect yourself and fight back.

Didn't know u knew so much about the guy

 

[rjd970]

Good grief. The guy who mistakenly walked into the apartment wasn't looking for trouble either, was he? Based on what I've read, he apologized. So the easy and obvious reaction would be, "hey, no problem," and then you watch the guy walk out of the door. I'm pretty sure that's what any halfway sensible person would do. But drunk young people tend not to be very sensible sometimes.

He is more to blame, no? Even if it was an honest mistake, McCollough is literally sitting at home on his couch or whatever and someone walks into his house.

We can all hindsight 20/20 this to death and view from our more mature viewpoint, but at the end of the day McCollough didn’t start anything. At 20ish years old I don’t know how I would have reacted. I may have said no problem man, or I may have jumped up and started swinging.

It unfortunate all around.

 

[Sudden Impact]

This stinks. AJ remember that fiasco. Alcohol, GF and Kids wondering around aimlessly. Drunks have zero recall. Problem is it will possibly take weeks to sort this out. I would say play him as well. He has probably been over charged.

 

[wrangler]

Facts needed. Don't blindly accept anything the "victim" said as truth; wait for proof, to accept anything as fact.

Witnesses that the "victim" had actually been in a similar apartment building nearby.

Witnesses that the alleged punch actually occurred outside the apartment.

Witnesses that the "victim" didn't throw a punch first.

Witnesses that the fall down the stairs was not a separate event, e.g. a drunken stumble.

etc.


Tank was right not to speak to the police. They can listen to all he says, and pick and choose what to use against him. For example, mugger gets injured by his target, target says I did it in self defense, prosecution can use the fact that he admitted hurting the mugger, and portray the self defense claim as BS. Better to keep quiet, at least until the dust settles and he can get advice of counsel.

 

[Tman44]

I wonder how much of it has to do with just the social acceptance of alcohol in general and blacking out. If the kid was out of his mind on meth or heroine i think it would likely be viewed differently.

I absolutely agree with you. The truth is, no one truly knows what was up with this guy. Loss of self control is a very dangerous thing no matter what the intoxicant is.

 

[DynaLo]

Yeah, you're absolutely right about the fall maybe causing some, if not all of the described damage.... falling down stairs is nasty. I shouldn't have worded it the way I did.

That being said, something about the time frame just isn't adding up.... Drunk dude stumbles into wrong apartment and is forcibly ejected resulting in his falling down a flight of stairs. No one thinks to call the police or even an ambulance for the obviously pretty seriously injured drunk guy? Why? I'd like to think some-d**n-body would have at least done that pretty much immediately...

That pretty much takes care of 1 and 2....

As far as 3, corroboration goes both ways.... If anyone were able to corroborate JM's story it'd likely be in the incident / arrest report, too, so that's a wash. May not have been anyone around TO corroborate ANY story.....

As far as 4 goes if FL fans are willing to get drunk and throw themselves down a flight of stairs, risking any concomitant injury (or death) simply to make a TN player look bad, well..... there's gonna be a LOT of that happening in the future. Kinda takes "faking an injury" to a whole 'nother level, huh? Won't be long til a FL fan "fakes a broken neck" doing it. That'll put a quick stop to it happening again, I'd wager....

Look, I'm not saying JM went out and head-hunted some random drunk guy, punched him in the face, and threw him down a flight of stairs for no reason (obviously drunk dude kinda pushed the first domino by walking into the wrong apt). I'm betting there's blame to be had on both sides and JM is afraid of the consequences for his part in the matter. Otherwise, I'd think things would have gone down in a much different manner and especially so if he's completely blameless here.....

Cops were called. Their report states the incident occurred around 3:28 pm and when cops got there they were met out on the street in front of the apartment by the guy with missing and broken teeth. So dude was okay enough to walk out and wait for the cops at the street.
Nothing in the report indicates medical services or an ambulance were requested or provided or that private transport occurred at that time.

 

[Lurker]

Good grief. The guy who mistakenly walked into the apartment wasn't looking for trouble either, was he? Based on what I've read, he apologized. So the easy and obvious reaction would be, "hey, no problem," and then you watch the guy walk out of the door. I'm pretty sure that's what any halfway sensible person would do. But drunk young people tend not to be very sensible sometimes.

While we agree on much, here we see things differently.

First, this guy was so drunk he allegedly not only picked the wrong apartment to enter, he didn't even enter the right building. Who knows what he was "looking for?" If he was as blasted as is likely, I bet he didn't know and, now, probably can't remember. But, such a "mistake," assuming that's what it was, is almost certain to lead to trouble whether he intended it or not.

Second, he says he apologized, but, having been in the company of more than my share of wasted individuals, I wonder if he even knows what he said. I doubt it was cordial and repentant. If a drunken fool had walked into my house without an invitation, I doubt my reaction would have been "hey, no problem" regardless of what he said. And as far as the occupant's reaction, I have seen nothing to suggest that the accused was impaired. But I bet he was surprised, defensive, and likely thoroughly PO'd. That's why trespassing into a dwelling is so dangerous and is a criminal offense itself. If a firearm had been present this could have been an absolute tragedy.

It sounds like a fist was thrown. The question is, was it justified? What if it was your kid's house? We need more facts.

 

[hillsborovol]

Why are some on here assuming that the drunk trespasser's story is the truth?

I will wait for the other side of the story before making any judgements.

This drunks story sounds at least suspicious. In the middle of a binge drinking party, he goes to his car to get something??? And then can't find the building and randomly ends up in McCollough's room?

If someone "randomly" comes into my house at 2 or 3 am, they would be lucky if they just fell down a flight of stairs and had a bloody mouth.

 

[sjt18]

Good grief. The guy who mistakenly walked into the apartment wasn't looking for trouble either, was he? Based on what I've read, he apologized. So the easy and obvious reaction would be, "hey, no problem," and then you watch the guy walk out of the door. I'm pretty sure that's what any halfway sensible person would do. But drunk young people tend not to be very sensible sometimes.

Which is why his story seems suspicious. Most guys won't waste the energy if someone only does what that guy said he did. He admits asking "Why be such a "****" about it?" About what?

We have people who are drawing conclusions from the supposed testimony (complete or incomplete) of a guy who was completely wasted when it occurred and who probably suffered a concussion from the fight or fall. I fell a few weeks back and couldn't remember some of the details correctly for several days. No serious injury just whiplash from trying to keep my head from hitting the ground.

But according to some... this saint of a fellow not only has no motive to protect himself or minimize his degree of fault... he has perfect recollection too. Move over @GhostVol... the "victim" has a date at the Vatican too.

 

[GhostVol]

Cops were called. Their report states the incident occurred around 3:28 pm and when cops got there they were met out on the street in front of the apartment by the guy with missing and broken teeth. So dude was okay enough to walk out and wait for the cops at the street.
Nothing in the report indicates medical services or an ambulance were requested or provided or that private transport occurred at that time.

Gotcha..... that clears up some of it

Thanks....

 

[DaddyChad]

So if this drunk guy was:
1)stealing
2)refusing to leave
3)verbally abusing McCullough
4)generally acting crazy as hell

Does anyone’s opinions change?

So far we’ve heard the victim’s statement and that’s it. Unless someone has a legit source for any other witness statement? We don’t know what happened other than the guy entered the wrong apartment, and that he definitely didn’t cool the situation when he told McCullough not to be dick.

 

[Tman44]

While we agree on much, here we see things differently......

Skipping really good stuff to get to my point about poster's comment...

It sounds like a fist was thrown. The question is, was it justified? What if it was your kid's house? We need more facts.

 

[DaddyChad]

Which is why his story seems suspicious. Most guys won't waste the energy if someone only does what that guy said he did. He admits asking "Why be such a "****" about it?" About what?

We have people who are drawing conclusions from the supposed testimony (complete or incomplete) of a guy who was completely wasted when it occurred and who probably suffered a concussion from the fight or fall. I fell a few weeks back and couldn't remember some of the details correctly for several days. No serious injury just whiplash from trying to keep my head from hitting the ground.

But according to some... this saint of a fellow not only has no motive to protect himself or minimize his degree of fault... he has perfect recollection too. Move over @GhostVol... the "victim" has a date at the Vatican too.

Exactly. I know I have perfect recollection when I’m too drunk to find my house and suffering from a head injury.

 

[GhostVol]

Which is why his story seems suspicious. Most guys won't waste the energy if someone only does what that guy said he did. He admits asking "Why be such a "****" about it?" About what?

We have people who are drawing conclusions from the supposed testimony (complete or incomplete) of a guy who was completely wasted when it occurred and who probably suffered a concussion from the fight or fall. I fell a few weeks back and couldn't remember some of the details correctly for several days. No serious injury just whiplash from trying to keep my head from hitting the ground.

But according to some... this saint of a fellow not only has no motive to protect himself or minimize his degree of fault... he has perfect recollection too. Move over @GhostVol... the "victim" has a date at the Vatican too.

Cool.... I'll get 'im likkered up on the sacramental wine and get the truth out of 'im.....

Then chuck him down a short flight myself for being so stupid as to wander into the wrong apt. while hammered and put this fanbase through something like this....

 

[Sudden Impact]

I guess the question is does he play on Saturday?
Why wouldn't we play him.
Again we have been through this before but now if the charges are dropped it is going to look bad.
If we do play him then it will look bad.
I think CJH and McCollough and have a one on one.
If CJH says he plays then he plays and we can wait this out the local DA decides what they are going to do.
Two sides to every story theirs and his and the truth probably lies in the middle.

Seriously who gets drunk at 328pm. Oh wait been there before, but not where I would have talked back to a McCollough.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Good grief. The guy who mistakenly walked into the apartment wasn't looking for trouble either, was he? Based on what I've read, he apologized. So the easy and obvious reaction would be, "hey, no problem," and then you watch the guy walk out of the door. I'm pretty sure that's what any halfway sensible person would do. But drunk young people tend not to be very sensible sometimes.

Okay, here's what you do. Get your girlfriend or boyfriend or friend or dog or someone to help you with this experiement.

Your partner is going to pretend they're inebriated, and they're going to mumble something like, "oh ****, sorry. sorry" under their breath.

At exactly the same time, you're going to jump up off your sofa, and shout at the top of your voice, "What the hell! Who are you? What are you doing here? Get the F out!" At the top of your lungs. At exactly the moment the other person starts to say their thing.

After it's over, ask yourself: did you hear a single word the other person said? Or was your own shouting what filled your ears?

It's not theater. The people whose home is being invaded probably weren't sitting quietly by waiting for their turn to speak.

 

[DaddyChad]

I guess the question is does he play on Saturday?
Why wouldn't we play him.
Again we have been through this before but now if the charges are dropped it is going to look bad.
If we do play him then it will look bad.
I think CJH and McCollough and have a one on one.
If CJH says he plays then he plays and we can wait this out the local DA decides what they are going to do.
Two sides to every story theirs and his and the truth probably lies in the middle.

I think Heupel can’t worry about appearances. You just do what’s right. If the kid did something wrong he cannot play and I wouldn’t want him to. If he wasn’t in the wrong it’s unfair to sit him for the biggest game of the year. Of all the dumbass luck for this to happen during Bamaweek.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Exactly. I know I have perfect recollection when I’m too drunk to find my house and suffering from a head injury.

Dang, Chad, how often you go on these benders?

 

[benholt06]

I don’t see much chance that this remains a felony charge. Misdemeanor at most. The fact that Jaylen wasn’t out looking for trouble will help him. Hope he can stay on the team. He’s been here 4 years and no issues that we know of before.

 

[DaddyChad]

Dang, Chad, how often you go on these benders?

My wife tries to keep me on the leash when I drink excessively.

 

[Sudden Impact]

I think Heupel can’t worry about appearances. You just do what’s right. If the kid did something wrong he cannot play and I wouldn’t want him to. If he wasn’t in the wrong it’s unfair to sit him for the biggest game of the year. Of all the dumbass luck for this to happen during Bamaweek.

I agree, bad timing but play him if Heupel determines the kid was ok. We sat AJ and it was all based on a half baked lie. Don't sit him at all until this comes out or a court date is set. I will bet that he gets a good lawyer and this is plead down to a misdemeanor if that.

 

[hillsborovol]

One more point..

So we are to believe this drunk
1) leaves the party,
2) was then able to find his car in the dark to get "something" from it,
3) but then cannot find the BUILDING he just left?

BS

 

[DaddyChad]

Just going to say this as well, coaches prepare you for a lot off the field. Don’t be in the wrong place, don’t hang out with ppl that will get you into trouble, don’t put yourself in situations where you can make the wrong decision. This is none of those.

You can put yourself in situations where you’re unlikely to find trouble and unlikely to have to make snap judgments that can go the wrong way. This is a situation which you cannot know what your state of mind would be or how you would react. We have the luxury of time to think and being removed from the emotion of the situation.

Again if some stranger is in my house and I’m not sure whether they’re armed or hostile or not, my primary concern isn’t going to be their safety. I can only imagine most of us would be in terror with a mixture of anger and I doubt much rational thought would go into whatever followed.

 

[Stonewall83]

I guess the question is does he play on Saturday?
Why wouldn't we play him.
Again we have been through this before but now if the charges are dropped it is going to look bad.
If we do play him then it will look bad.
I think CJH and McCollough and have a one on one.
If CJH says he plays then he plays and we can wait this out the local DA decides what they are going to do.
Two sides to every story theirs and his and the truth probably lies in the middle.

Seriously who gets drunk at 328pm. Oh wait been there before, but not where I would have talked back to a McCollough.

I think he should play….this move to ruin a career or season because he said/she said is stupid.

If he’s later convicted(he won’t be) it will be something totally forgotten at that point….and if someone(media I’m sure) wants to stir up drama at that point it’s very easy to say “we didn’t have near enough information to make a decision at that point”

 

[CNCVol88]

One more point..

So we are to believe this drunk
1) leaves the party,
2) was then able to find his car in the dark to get "something" from it,
3) but then cannot find the BUILDING he just left?

BS

Oh no. It’s worse. This happened in broad daylight. Dude was so blasted he couldn’t find the right building in broad daylight.