Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

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BowlBrother85 said:
What is there to get? Trump is inarticulate and narcissistic... Trump's supporters are mostly white, mostly uneducated, uncultured, gullible and filled with a hostile resentment for blacks and Hispanics with the nerve to have better jobs and make more money than they do. Trump's rallies are nothing more than a forum for airing grievances centered on hate, bigotry, intolerance for others and their opposing viewpoints and the scapegoating of minorities - usually immigrants.
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Putting people in boxes is not my thing - Just a quick search on Twitter










Weird - that tweet was there and had been there for a few days...
 
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C-south said:
He was provided the same things as everyone else but they chose not to utilize. Now you expect everyone to foot the bill for them. Everyone doesn’t have the same opportunities for various reasons but everyone has opportunity to be something other than a self proclaimed victim and can provide for themselves. You come across as someone who was awarded better than average opportunity, probably from parents of the same. Good for you. If you really work in public education I’d associate that with what’s wrong with our country. Sad. And that’s not on any continuum.
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Both of my parents grew up poor. My mom extremely so. They worked hard, taught their children to work hard, and I've taught my children to work hard.
Hard work, providing for yourself and your family, and helping out others has been instilled for generations.
Blast away.
And yes, crossing guard is under the education umbrella.
We all have our own perspectives. I can guarantee you mine differs from pretty much everyone on the PF.
 
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luthervol said:
Both of my parents grew up poor. My mom extremely so. They worked hard, taught their children to work hard, and I've taught my children to work hard.
Hard work, providing for yourself and your family, and helping out others has been instilled for generations.
Blast away.
And yes, crossing guard is under the education umbrella.
We all have our own perspectives. I can guarantee you mine differs from pretty much everyone on the PF.
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There’s a difference between helping others and supporting others. It also makes a difference that the ones you help do all they can to help themselves.
 
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GoVolsDR said:
Epstein has no known next of kin. The victims can still go after his estate, and discovery will occur in civil legal proceedings.

Furthermore, Epstein had some truly degenerate and disgusting ideas about cryogenics and seeding the human race with his DNA at his New Mexico property.
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Will he be joining Walt (Disney)...on ice.

Disney has some really f'ed up individuals (past and present) associated with that company too.
 
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C-south said:
There’s a difference between helping others and supporting others. It also makes a difference that the ones you help do all they can to help themselves.
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Of course there is. I have never once advocated for supporting anyone who refuses to support themselves. I'm not sure I know a single person who supports that position.
Some on the right seem to live in debilitating fear that someone may get something that they did not work for or deserve.
If 20 people receive assistance and 19 of them are deserving but one has gamed the system, so be it.
There seems to be a difference on whom he choose to focus, the 19 or the 1.
 
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luthervol said:
Of course there is. I have never once advocated for supporting anyone who refuses to support themselves. I'm not sure I know a single person who supports that position.
Some on the right seem to live in debilitating fear that someone may get something that they did not work for or deserve.
If 20 people receive assistance and 19 of them are deserving but one has gamed the system, so be it.
There seems to be a difference on whom he choose to focus, the 19 or the 1.
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The problem with this is scale. 44 million people received food stamps in 2016. If your 5% is applicable, which I know you just through out there, that’s 2.2 million gaming the system.
 
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volfanhill said:
The problem with this is scale. 44 million people received food stamps in 2016. If your 5% is applicable, which I know you just through out there, that’s 2.2 million gaming the system.
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I'm willing to pay that price for the sake of the other 42 million in temporary need.
 
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luthervol said:
I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.
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BowlBrother85 said:
What is there to get? Trump is inarticulate and narcissistic... Trump's supporters are mostly white, mostly uneducated, uncultured, gullible and filled with a hostile resentment for blacks and Hispanics with the nerve to have better jobs and make more money than they do. Trump's rallies are nothing more than a forum for airing grievances centered on hate, bigotry, intolerance for others and their opposing viewpoints and the scapegoating of minorities - usually immigrants.
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lmao

"Trump spews hate!" he says, while of course spewing hate. How is it you don't even see the hypocrisy of your own words? It's sad to me that you are acting like what you proclaim to hate.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
What is there to get? Trump is inarticulate and narcissistic... Trump's supporters are mostly white, mostly uneducated, uncultured, gullible and filled with a hostile resentment for blacks and Hispanics with the nerve to have better jobs and make more money than they do. Trump's rallies are nothing more than a forum for airing grievances centered on hate, bigotry, intolerance for others and their opposing viewpoints and the scapegoating of minorities - usually immigrants.
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Wow , just wow .
 
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luthervol said:
You seem a little on edge, but please spare me the hysteria.
I posted earlier in the thread what you were provided................
I'm guessing a public education. Playing at the rec. fields. Visits to the park. Safe food, water, and air. Safe environment Some pretty good roads on which to travel. Courts and prisons to prosecute and detain, the list goes on and on.
Are you actually so shallow, bitter, and cynical that you would claim that you didn't benefit from being born a US citizen? That your life wasn't made better and easier by the sacrifices and contributions of past and present citizens?
You're not the only guy who has worked hard. You don't have the only parents who worked hard. You're not the only guy who put himself through school..........all of those things apply to me and many others.
I do find it amusing that Trump's business failures and bankruptcies and your parent's bankruptcies are viewed as a sign of working hard.
Months ago when I mentioned having been a part of two companies that went out of business it was viewed with humor and repeatedly brought up as a sign of my failures. Oh well, I'm used to the inconsistencies.
You may want to see someone about your anger issues.
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Public education, playing fields and parks, roads, all paid for by our taxes. Not given freely. Most people buy food, though some get it free. Water isn't free either. And air? When did the government start providing air we breathe?

Tell me luther, are you so shallow, bitter, and cynical that you can't admit some people work harder than others to get forward in life? Opportunity is rarely given freely. Most people work for it and make their own breaks in life.

Giving to those in need is noble. But maybe we should define who is actually in need. People who can work but choose not to, that's not needy, that's lazy. And how much a person gives to those actually in need should be a choice, not a requirement. If you want to give half your money away, fine, more power to you, but you do not have the right to ask that of others. That's a choice individuals should make.
 
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luthervol said:
You seem a little on edge, but please spare me the hysteria.
I posted earlier in the thread what you were provided................
I'm guessing a public education. Playing at the rec. fields. Visits to the park. Safe food, water, and air. Safe environment Some pretty good roads on which to travel. Courts and prisons to prosecute and detain, the list goes on and on.
Are you actually so shallow, bitter, and cynical that you would claim that you didn't benefit from being born a US citizen? That your life wasn't made better and easier by the sacrifices and contributions of past and present citizens?
You're not the only guy who has worked hard. You don't have the only parents who worked hard. You're not the only guy who put himself through school..........all of those things apply to me and many others.
I do find it amusing that Trump's business failures and bankruptcies and your parent's bankruptcies are viewed as a sign of working hard.
Months ago when I mentioned having been a part of two companies that went out of business it was viewed with humor and repeatedly brought up as a sign of my failures. Oh well, I'm used to the inconsistencies.
You may want to see someone about your anger issues.
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Right. I
- didn't build that.

-White (now apparently American) guilt.

You are hitting the biggie talking points of the leftism that will get you laughed out of the 2020 elections. Keep it up.

I know I am fortunate, and a big part of that is the man we have in the WH right now. Keep your socialists in Chicago where they belong. I have paid my fair share of taxes and unfortunately then some. Care to compare tax bills sometime? Don't lecture me on that
 
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1972 Grad said:
@SpaceCoastVol . Do yourself a favor and don't respond to Luther. It's the best move I ever made on this forum. It's not worth your time.
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I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. I know he's a troll, and you are right that I should ignore him, but I don;t suffer fools very well unfortunately.
 
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Weezer said:
Public education, playing fields and parks, roads, all paid for by our taxes. Not given freely. Most people buy food, though some get it free. Water isn't free either. And air? When did the government start providing air we breathe?

Tell me luther, are you so shallow, bitter, and cynical that you can't admit some people work harder than others to get forward in life? Opportunity is rarely given freely. Most people work for it and make their own breaks in life.

Giving to those in need is noble. But maybe we should define who is actually in need. People who can work but choose not to, that's not needy, that's lazy. And how much a person gives to those actually in need should be a choice, not a requirement. If you want to give half your money away, fine, more power to you, but you do not have the right to ask that of others. That's a choice individuals should make.
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He doesn't ask others to do it. He FORCES them to. With the gun of government to their head. And that's my point. He's a ****ing coward.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. I know he's a troll, and you are right that I should ignore him, but I don;t suffer fools very well unfortunately.
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I don't have him or anyone on ignore, but I read little of what he posts, and do not respond. I decided that was best for me many months ago.
 
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