Jeronne Maymon update

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jp1 said:
You obviously don't know what you are talking about.
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I have no formal medical training, but I have a son with chronic infections so I'm no stranger to rounds of varying antibiotics. I was weighing in with my experience with bacterial infections. Do you know what you are talking about?
 
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UT IE 95 said:
I have no formal medical training, but I have a son with chronic infections so I'm no stranger to rounds of varying antibiotics. I was weighing in with my experience with bacterial infections. Do you know what you are talking about?
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MRSA is a completely different animal if your son hasn't had that. I've had family members with it that were on multiple rounds of high dose antibiotics for a month at a time, and theirs wasn't a joint infection. Those are harder to treat, I'm fairly sure because there is little blood flow into your actual joint so the bacteria sees very little of the antibiotic.
 
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jjay2518 said:
MRSA is a completely different animal if your son hasn't had that. I've had family members with it that were on multiple rounds of high dose antibiotics for a month at a time, and theirs wasn't a joint infection. Those are harder to treat, I'm fairly sure because there is little blood flow into your actual joint so the bacteria sees very little of the antibiotic.
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I've never experienced MRSA, but I've been told by multiple doctors that anything past a round of a family of antibiotics virtually rules it ineffective to the bacterium.

Regardless of our couch diagnosis and guessing, Maymon needs to get healthy.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
I have no formal medical training, but I have a son with chronic infections so I'm no stranger to rounds of varying antibiotics. I was weighing in with my experience with bacterial infections. Do you know what you are talking about?
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Sorry to hear about your son, I was merely stating that your comment wasn't factual. I perhaps could have done it more tactfully. I am medically trained.

On a sidenote, nowhere in the medical literature will you find an article absolutely proving probiotics work. I'm not saying they don't, and sounds good in theory but not proven.
 
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Yes, If Maymon isn't back on the court in December he should be redshirted. Would take him a month to get fit, etc. even when he is ready. Too bad.
 
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jjay2518 said:
MRSA is a completely different animal if your son hasn't had that. I've had family members with it that were on multiple rounds of high dose antibiotics for a month at a time, and theirs wasn't a joint infection. Those are harder to treat, I'm fairly sure because there is little blood flow into your actual joint so the bacteria sees very little of the antibiotic.
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This is my understanding also. Doctors usually follow a protocol of various antibiotics with vancomycin being the final option.


I hope Maymon gets better soon.
 
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jp1 said:
Sorry to hear about your son, I was merely stating that your comment wasn't factual. I perhaps could have done it more tactfully. I am medically trained.

On a sidenote, nowhere in the medical literature will you find an article absolutely proving probiotics work. I'm not saying they don't, and sounds good in theory but not proven.
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I can't speak to the studies. I can only give my experience. When we are going through rounds of anitbiotics his stomach is ripped up and he has bad soupy poopy. We keep probiotics in the fridge and mix it in with apple sauce in the evenings and it makes all the difference for his stomach issues. Probably like everything else in the world - some things work for some people and don't for others.
 
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Oakland isn't exactly amazing here. We will see how good we really are on Friday. I hope maymon gets better for his sake and uts sake. All of this being said his time away will only strengthen us as a team when he cones back.
 
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OldandStillaVol said:
This is my understanding also. Doctors usually follow a protocol of various antibiotics with vancomycin being the final option.


I hope Maymon gets better soon.
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Actually its the other way around. Lets assume its a bone or joint infection, in a hospital setting vancomycin would be started first and then antibiotics would be streamlined based on cultures. Due to the seriousness you would start with antibiotics to treat worst case scenerio and work your way back.
 
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Believe it or not most of you probably have MRSA and don't even know it. It's unbelievably hard to protect patients from. If anybody here has ever had a staff infection...you have MRSA. If any of you have relatives that have worked at a hospital and your around often...you have MRSA. If you have a strong immune system chances are you'll never see it show itself. Not to freak anybody out. :D

ps- When an OR is being cleaned after a MRSA patient the staff has to you Dispatch cleaner(Bleach more or less). That's what it takes to kill any traces of MRSA
 
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lastlap said:
I've been battling MRSA for 2 years now. Contracted it during surgery on my foot. Diabetic which makes things worse but I've already lost the middle knuckle in both of my big toes, plus had my second toe amputated. MRSA is no joke. Let's just pray this isn't the case. And yes hospitals are nasty but you can't get a lawyer anywhere to represent you. Everyone I ask said it was just too hard to prove because it's airborne and you can get it anywhere. All I know was I didn't have it when I went in but I damn sure had it when I came out. You're correct more then anything Thoughts and prayers go out to the young man on a speedy recovery.
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First, I just prayed for you. Secondly, DO NOT GIVE UP. There are lawyers out there that will take your case and run with it because MRSA is, post surgically speaking, almost always the fault of the hospital. I am not a letigously prone person, but after years of seeing the outcomes and CAUSES (cheapening of process and standards at the root of this problem) I see this as you doing it for all of us. National Healthcare is only going to compound the problem because more "cost-cutting" measurses will be inacted. Throw MRSA out and this should still scare the crap out of everyone......this is but ONE of the "big & nasty" bugs that are mutating and evolving daily. The fact that the healthcare industry is going to be strapped even further will only compound the issue.
 
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Special Ed said:
I hope you're right, but I've not seen anything so far to indicate that this team has the fire in the belly to deliver the goods. Maymon was the fuel in the engine that drives this team. We don't have that fuel at our disposal now.
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Well, within 15 mins of posting this you must have felt even more "special". Just saying.....
 
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1985Vols said:
It would be good info to know which hospital the surgery was performed at. The general public needs to be better informed of the hospitals that do not meet certain standards.
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It wouldn't matter.......it is EVERYWHERE. Cheap standards in order to increase profit is one cause for the prolific spread, but medicare (governmental reimbusement) is another root cause. Another root issue is the over prescribing of antibiotics and that is an issue that cranks my engine. Due to this and my personal knowledge, I have chosen to always reat antibiotics as a last resort. That way, if needed, the treatment has a much higher success rate despite the strengthening of the germ due to built-in resistance. If you go to a country that touts "medical tourism" (where you can go to have high level surg for cash that is enough below the usual cost that you cover the cost of your trip, see another country and have a super specialized doc do your procedure) this problem is MUCH less of an issue. Everyone has staph, but t
 
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jjay2518 said:
MRSA is a completely different animal if your son hasn't had that. I've had family members with it that were on multiple rounds of high dose antibiotics for a month at a time, and theirs wasn't a joint infection. Those are harder to treat, I'm fairly sure because there is little blood flow into your actual joint so the bacteria sees very little of the antibiotic.
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Correct....kind of. It has less to do with circulation than whether or not it gets to the bone. If it reaches the bone (osteo infection) then it usually involves a "bone scrape" surgery.....at the very least
 
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volbreaker said:
Correct....kind of. It has less to do with circulation than whether or not it gets to the bone. If it reaches the bone (osteo infection) then it usually involves a "bone scrape" surgery.....at the very least
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You're last few posts have been very informative and I really appreciate you taking the time to pass on some real knowledge, but this last bit officially made my skin crawl a bit. Bone scrape surgery cannot be pleasant.
 
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jp1 said:
Actually its the other way around. Lets assume its a bone or joint infection, in a hospital setting vancomycin would be started first and then antibiotics would be streamlined based on cultures. Due to the seriousness you would start with antibiotics to treat worst case scenerio and work your way back.
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Yup. "Carpet bombing" with Vanc is first, then after an aerobic and anaerobic culture is completed and reported you can narrow and focus treatment. However, these new bugs are tricky and more resistant to treatments.
 
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zansdad said:
You're last few posts have been very informative and I really appreciate you taking the time to pass on some real knowledge, but this last bit officially made my skin crawl a bit. Bone scrape surgery cannot be pleasant.
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I know, right? The scary part is that many patients are measured on anticipated outcomes. In other words, if you have an osteo and are 82 yrs old is it worth the money to TRY to help you beat it? That will only get worse in our near future. Ergo, I can treat a wound patient and completely close the wound, but if there is an osteo present, then it will reopen, eventually, and have a continual, small hole that is caled a "draining sinus". That sinus is nothing but an exit gutter for the exudate (scum) produced by the infection. How's that for creepy?
 
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volbreaker said:
I know, right? The scary part is that many patients are measured on anticipated outcomes. In other words, if you have an osteo and are 82 yrs old is it worth the money to TRY to help you beat it? That will only get worse in our near future. Ergo, I can treat a wound patient and completely close the wound, but if there is an osteo present, then it will reopen, eventually, and have a continual, small hole that is caled a "draining sinus". That sinus is nothing but an exit gutter for the exudate (scum) produced by the infection. How's that for creepy?
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I have a friend whose husband broke his leg badly about 10 years ago or so. It took him about a year to recover and at one point it got so bad they talked about maybe amputating. He got a staph infection under the pins the put in his leg during surgery. They had some real horror stories. It was immediately came to mind as I was reading this post. Some of this stuff sounds like what they went through. Thankfully he was able to eventually beat the infection.
 
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zansdad said:
I have a friend whose husband broke his leg badly about 10 years ago or so. It took him about a year to recover and at one point it got so bad they talked about maybe amputating. He got a staph infection under the pins the put in his leg during surgery. They had some real horror stories. It was immediately came to mind as I was reading this post. Some of this stuff sounds like what they went through. Thankfully he was able to eventually beat the infection.
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It is becoming more common and more ugly. Heck, if I feel compromised, I stay the hell away from ANY hospital, Nursing home or LTAC.....heck, even doctors offices (I am fortunate enough to be a very close friend of my Doc and he always conceeds to an early a.m. appointment). I am considering a future back surg to be done in either Germany or a scuba area of the Middle East. I would get a "free" trip(relatively), far less of chance to develop an infection and specialized physicians......all for the same (or less, out of pocket)......what does that tell you about free market vs. socialized Obamacare? Bottom line: Due to multiple factors, expect this problem to become more a part of our daily conversations. However, right now it's Maymon (and at least two other Vol Supporters) that are struggling with this battle. Everyone pray for grace and healing, wisdom from treating physicians and strength for all and their families!!
 
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zansdad said:
I have a friend whose husband broke his leg badly about 10 years ago or so. It took him about a year to recover and at one point it got so bad they talked about maybe amputating. He got a staph infection under the pins the put in his leg during surgery. They had some real horror stories. It was immediately came to mind as I was reading this post. Some of this stuff sounds like what they went through. Thankfully he was able to eventually beat the infection.
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My brother-in-law had simple sinus surgery, died about a wk later from infection.
 
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volbreaker said:
First, I just prayed for you. Secondly, DO NOT GIVE UP. There are lawyers out there that will take your case and run with it because MRSA is, post surgically speaking, almost always the fault of the hospital. I am not a letigously prone person, but after years of seeing the outcomes and CAUSES (cheapening of process and standards at the root of this problem) I see this as you doing it for all of us. National Healthcare is only going to compound the problem because more "cost-cutting" measurses will be inacted. Throw MRSA out and this should still scare the crap out of everyone......this is but ONE of the "big & nasty" bugs that are mutating and evolving daily. The fact that the healthcare industry is going to be strapped even further will only compound the issue.
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I can confirm the accuracy of this statement. I work in the healthcare field, and literally everyone I have spoken to about this topic is saying this will cause the quality of care to decline. I don't say this with the intent to turn this into a political discussion of any sort. I just wanted to confirm what Volbreaker said, and also to encourage anyone considering any medical procedures to get them done before it takes full effect.

My prayers will also be with lastlap. Do not stop fighting; any Dr. will tell you that the will of the patient DOES make a difference!
 
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