JFK assassination expert: Lee Harvey Oswald lone gunman theory is ‘bulls–t’

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rjd970 said:
This wasn’t an animated video. It was physically recreated down to almost every detail other than actually doing it on the plaza. Even filmed from the same angle.
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Okay, so so where did they say these 3 shots by Oswald went?
 
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VolStrom said:
I don't have anything to add, but it seems pretty implausible to me that a sniper with a bolt action rifle could fire three times at a moving car and hit a body three times in the head/neck. But to be honest, it's been 60 years and if there was a conspiracy or more than one shooter, they're either dead or damn close to it.
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There is still one alleged shooter that is still alive as far as I know...
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Okay, so so where did they say these 3 shots by Oswald went?
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I can’t remember. This was years ago and I’ll see if I can find the show somewhere online. But I do remember they recreated the magic bullet trajectory, not exact but pretty darn close.
 
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rjd970 said:
This wasn’t an animated video. It was physically recreated down to almost every detail other than actually doing it on the plaza. Even filmed from the same angle.
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One more note, landmarks in Dealey Plaza were altered or removed after the assassination. So keep that in mind. Also, the Zapruder film was edited on the weekend of the assassination to remove certain frames that would show the limo braking/stopping on Elm Street. So that corrupts the timeline.
 
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rjd970 said:
I can’t remember. This was years ago and I’ll see if I can find the show somewhere online. But I do remember they recreated the magic bullet trajectory, not exact but pretty darn close.
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Okay... I would be very interested to see that "evidence".
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Okay... I would be very interested to see that "evidence".
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Just a question, but would that be enough to make you question the multiple gunmen theory?

I think there is enough there that we can’t rule it out, but wondering, what, if any, evidence it would take to make you believe the official story?
 
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VolStrom said:
I don't have anything to add, but it seems pretty implausible to me that a sniper with a bolt action rifle could fire three times at a moving car and hit a body three times in the head/neck. But to be honest, it's been 60 years and if there was a conspiracy or more than one shooter, they're either dead or damn close to it.
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Nah. They’re are buried out past Terlingua
 
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rjd970 said:
Just a question, but would that be enough to make you question the multiple gunmen theory?

I think there is enough there that we can’t rule it out, but wondering, what, if any, evidence it would take to make you believe the official story?
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You would have to debunk and dismiss at least 2 other possible shooters and one person wounded in Dealey Plaza.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You would have to debunk and dismiss at least 2 other possible shooters and one person wounded in Dealey Plaza.
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Right, but would would constitute “debunking” and “dismissing”? Again, I’m not ruling it out, but typically with conspiracy theorists I find that no matter the evidence and case against it they are entrenched and will just find another hole in the theory, or some other missing or available piece of evidence.

It’s like with the religious, it is exceedingly rare that such entrenched beliefs change with the insertion of evidence. It’s always “but what about” questions after being continually answered. Beliefs are like pedals that once pushed are exceedingly hard to let off of again.
 
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rjd970 said:
Right, but would would constitute “debunking” and “dismissing”? Again, I’m not ruling it out, but typically with conspiracy theorists I find that no matter the evidence and case against it they are entrenched and will just find another hole in the theory, or some other missing or available piece of evidence.
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Correct, anything debunking a conspiracy theory just gets lumped in as a part of the conspiracy.
 
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rjd970 said:
Right, but would would constitute “debunking” and “dismissing”? Again, I’m not ruling it out, but typically with conspiracy theorists I find that no matter the evidence and case against it they are entrenched and will just find another hole in the theory, or some other missing or available piece of evidence.

It’s like with the religious, it is exceedingly rare that such entrenched beliefs change with the insertion of evidence. It’s always “but what about” questions after being continually answered. Beliefs are like pedals that once pushed are exceedingly hard to let off of again.
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The same can be said of you people that believe the single assassin theory.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The same can be said of you people that believe the single assassin theory.
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I’m open to my mind being changed, and have said as such that it is certainly possible there was a conspiracy. I think on balance the lone gunman is the simplest explanation but I’m not 100% all in.

I would like to see all the CIA classified files on Oswald to make a more conclusive determination. But I’m not going to play the game of every piece of evidence for or against the lone gunman theory is proof of a conspiracy.

Again, what would constitute “debunking” and “dismissing”? I would suspect your answer would say a lot about why you are believing what you say.
 
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rjd970 said:
I’m open to my mind being changed, and have said as such that it is certainly possible there was a conspiracy. I think on balance the lone gunman is the simplest explanation but I’m not 100% all in.

I would like to see all the CIA classified files on Oswald to make a more conclusive determination. But I’m not going to play the game of every piece of evidence for or against the lone gunman theory is proof of a conspiracy.

Again, what would constitute “debunking” and “dismissing”? I would suspect your answer would say a lot about why you are believing what you say.
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I quit even wondering about the assassination years ago (although it was pretty real to me) even though I had lots of doubt about the "investigation" and "conclusion". I was in HS, and we were called to the gym for a prep rally - it was cancelled and we were told of the assassination. I was watching TV when Oswald was shot. In business and politics the trend for a long time has been to develop the "official response" and then to support it at all costs and other facts be damned. It doesn't generally work well when you consider the follow on court cases proving somebody knew something was really a carcinogen, etc; but that's never stopped the powers that be from deciding they will control the situation their way. Maybe I'm just a cynic; but I have little confidence in things that are handled officially behind closed doors - especially by governments; however, over the years. I have learned to let go of most of the things you can't control.
 
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AM64 said:
I quit even wondering about the assassination years ago (although it was pretty real to me) even though I had lots of doubt about the "investigation" and "conclusion". I was in HS, and we were called to the gym for a prep rally - it was cancelled and we were told of the assassination. I was watching TV when Oswald was shot. In business and politics the trend for a long time has been to develop the "official response" and then to support it at all costs and other facts be damned. It doesn't generally work well when you consider the follow on court cases proving somebody knew something was really a carcinogen, etc; but that's never stopped the powers that be from deciding they will control the situation their way. Maybe I'm just a cynic; but I have little confidence in things that are handled officially behind closed doors - especially by governments; however, over the years. I have learned to let go of most of the things you can't control.
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Damn, I had no idea you were that old. When I heard of the death, I had just came home from 1st grade to see my mother crying watching TV.
 
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I couldn't remember the exact year, of JFK assassination but Coster's movie was 1991! Yikes, that seemed like 15 years ago
 
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there was a pretty good movie documentary on Showtime in 1986 that featured Dr. Cyril.
A link to the opening comments is provided below.
I'm not military trained but nonetheless I just can't fathom getting off those shots with a bolt action in the allotted time and a head shot no less.
And why in the heck are the release of the facts continually delayed? IMO, they should be released totally unedited and completely. That is also BS.
And follow Grey Wolf's advice and read the book he referenced.

 
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Smokey X said:
there was a pretty good movie documentary on Showtime in 1986 that featured Dr. Cyril.
A link to the opening comments is provided below.
I'm not military trained but nonetheless I just can't fathom getting off those shots with a bolt action in the allotted time and a head shot no less.
And why in the heck are the release of the facts continually delayed? IMO, they should be released totally unedited and completely. That is also BS.
And follow Grey Wolf's advice and read the book he referenced.

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Because our continued Executives think they are Kings and enact EO to keep delaying. To not be transparent especially after all these years is pretty damning
 
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