JFK assassination expert: Lee Harvey Oswald lone gunman theory is ‘bulls–t’

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Orangeburst said:
(2022-1963)+18=?
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Make it 17, and I'll be 76 this July. The "64" you see over on the left refers to the year I graduated from HS and entered UT. I actually have a lot of letters signed by Estes Kefauver and Albert Gore (Sr) because UT was an afterthought - I planned to go the the Air Force Academy until the AF decided in 1963 they only wanted pilots going there - did get two alternate nominations to West Point and one to Annapolis as consolation prizes.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
JFK was assassinated because he wanted to blow the lid off of alien visitors.

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Im not sure about the aliens , I am 1000% sure that any 3 letter agencies than can sit in front of congress and basically give them the middle finger when asked direct questions about responsibility, who’s in charge of who or what they have been doing … is extremely dangerous to everyone on this planet . It’s amazing to watch them shrug their shoulders to their bosses , the ones that have oversight on them and that created their agency.
 
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AM64 said:
Make it 17, and I'll be 76 this July. The "64" you see over on the left refers to the year I graduated from HS and entered UT. I actually have a lot of letters signed by Estes Kefauver and Albert Gore (Sr) because UT was an afterthought - I planned to go the the Air Force Academy until the AF decided in 1963 they only wanted pilots going there - did get two alternate nominations to West Point and one to Annapolis as consolation prizes.
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Nice. Where did you end up going?
 
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85SugarVol said:
Nice. Where did you end up going?
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I went to UT - reported to Knoxville in the fall. Quit in my junior year and enlisted in the Army then worked a bit and returned to UT in '72. I really had my heart set on the AF Academy for a vey long time. My dad was AF and we were stationed at Lowry AFB in Denver when the AF Academy was there - what everybody now knows as the AF Academy was under construction in Colorado Springs. Just seeing what I did of academy life while at Lowry convinced me that's what I wanted.
 
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rjd970 said:
Right, but would would constitute “debunking” and “dismissing”? Again, I’m not ruling it out, but typically with conspiracy theorists I find that no matter the evidence and case against it they are entrenched and will just find another hole in the theory, or some other missing or available piece of evidence.

It’s like with the religious, it is exceedingly rare that such entrenched beliefs change with the insertion of evidence. It’s always “but what about” questions after being continually answered. Beliefs are like pedals that once pushed are exceedingly hard to let off of again.
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The very same thing could be said about the people that believe in the lone gunman theory. There is nothing I can likely do to shake you off of that belief.
 
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Vol737 said:
Anyone ever try to cycle and fire three shots with a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the time it supposedly took Oswald to do it? Against a moving target? Maybe Oswald was just a whole lot better than I give him credit for, but I doubt it.
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A lot of people have. CBS did one around the time the Warren report came out. Several have been done since then. It can be done, time wise. I'd say the live event would add some gravity to the situation.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How do you explain the shot that hit him in the lower thoracic region of his back?
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I know bullets do crazy things, I think that bullet that went in his torso hit mostly soft tissue so it could easily do that. I've read articles on hunters shooting deer and one bullet would actually kill two deers it once because they were next to each other. So think it's definitely plausible for one bullet to do all that damage.
 
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Vol737 said:
Anyone ever try to cycle and fire three shots with a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the time it supposedly took Oswald to do it? Against a moving target? Maybe Oswald was just a whole lot better than I give him credit for, but I doubt it.
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I think the shots took longer than the time they guessed. I think they're guessed at the time frame of the bullets Being shot are not as accurate Asthot As thought
 
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If you guys get a chance listen to this Podcast. It is very interesting and he breaks down the whole Assassination and Warren report
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The very same thing could be said about the people that believe in the lone gunman theory. There is nothing I can likely do to shake you off of that belief.
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Wrong. A leaked or released government report/investigation outlining the conspiracy would do the trick quite easily. If there is a conspiracy such a report/document/tape would exist. The very nature of a conspiracy would demand it existed.

What specifically would/could be done at this point to change your mind?
 
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rjd970 said:
I saw a forensic show once where they re-created the scene exactly as it was that day in Dallas. Same angles, distance, speed, rifle, etc. then took someone that had taken marine marksman training and had them fire the 3 shots in the allotted amount of time against a ballistics dummy, complete with consistent skull and skeleton in the car. Playing the two videos (Zapruder and re-creation) were uncanny similar, and the injuries were almost exact, down to the secondary injuries to others caused by the “magic bullet”. It was also pretty conclusive that “back and to the left” was consistent with a re-entry wound to the back of the head with splatter out the front.

Now there are a lot of things surrounding the assination in the background they rightfully cause a moment of pause, and I don’t believe the multiple gunmen or conspiracy can/should be ruled out. But the lone gunman theory is certainly possible.
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I too have seen that experiment. It was interesting
 
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I have never believed the theory that Oswald was the lone shooter.

I also think there was something mysterious surrounding Stanley Kubrick's death
 
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Vol737 said:
Anyone ever try to cycle and fire three shots with a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the time it supposedly took Oswald to do it? Against a moving target? Maybe Oswald was just a whole lot better than I give him credit for, but I doubt it.
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I have an m91 carcano. Not the same gun that was used but same workings. I’ve attempted the shot and distance on a stationary target several times. I don’t think it can be done.
 
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rjd970 said:
I saw a forensic show once where they re-created the scene exactly as it was that day in Dallas. Same angles, distance, speed, rifle, etc. then took someone that had taken marine marksman training and had them fire the 3 shots in the allotted amount of time against a ballistics dummy, complete with consistent skull and skeleton in the car. Playing the two videos (Zapruder and re-creation) were uncanny similar, and the injuries were almost exact, down to the secondary injuries to others caused by the “magic bullet”. It was also pretty conclusive that “back and to the left” was consistent with a re-entry wound to the back of the head with splatter out the front.

Now there are a lot of things surrounding the assination in the background they rightfully cause a moment of pause, and I don’t believe the multiple gunmen or conspiracy can/should be ruled out. But the lone gunman theory is certainly possible.
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I saw this also. It was interesting. However, I still think there were multiple shooters.
 
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I'm not discounting a conspiracy/cia involvement.
The person that made me question a conspiracy is Jack Ruby. If Oswald was a hired hitman and Ruby was hired to take him out why was Ruby allowed to live another 3+years before his death with the possibility to spill the beans on who hired him? Why not a " heart attack" a " suicide" .
Additionally why not kill Oswald before he was allowed to be arrested.
Seems a bit sloppy planning the biggest assassination in history, in broad daylight with hundreds of possible witnesses and the assassin allowed to escape.
 
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Zues1 said:
I'm not discounting a conspiracy/cia involvement.
The person that made me question a conspiracy is Jack Ruby. If Oswald was a hired hitman and Ruby was hired to take him out why was Ruby allowed to live another 3+years before his death with the possibility to spill the beans on who hired him? Why not a " heart attack" a " suicide" .
Additionally why not kill Oswald before he was allowed to be arrested.
Seems a bit sloppy planning the biggest assassination in history, in broad daylight with hundreds of possible witnesses and the assassin allowed to escape.
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My guess is they didn’t expect Oswald to get far, and he was so confused that nothing he said would make sense. Ruby was tied to the mob, and they probably threatened to kill any family members he had as well as associates.
 
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