Jimbo Fisher

I don't understand the underachieving part. He is a great recruiter, puts a great defense on the field, and runs a top 10 program who will probably beat the #4 Gators this weekend. Something we haven't been able to do in a long time. Bama lost when they shouldn't have, The Ducks lost, Notre Dame could lose the game to USC tomorrow. Jimbo hasn't won a National Championship but there isn't many if any on UT's list that have. I like the guy, not as a first choice, but I have him in my top 5.
 
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No I won't. The guy has had Top 10 recruiting classes how many times and he can't run the gambit in a weak ACC!
VPI has been down, Miami stinks and he still can't route the ACC. He is what he is, a guy who does less with more.
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Yet, they have a chance at the NC game, if they beat UF, and if they win the ACC Championship game. You'd trade places with them in a heartbeat. Look, we both want Gruden, but getting a guy like Jimbo, who is a proven recruiter, wouldn't be a bad plan B or C.
 
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You think the team that UT put on the field this year would have 8 wins in any conference? Really?


Have you watched the ACC this year? They're horrible. Did you see what we did to NC State? There is no doubt in my mind UT would be bowling if we were in the ACC.
Don't forget NC State beat FSU THIS YEAR? FSU struggled mightily against VPI, a weak VPI.
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Every Vol fan should send an email or make a call to the AD and demand thast we don't hire a guy who struggles in the ACC with great talent.

Yes he's better than Dooley but so is a dsamned fence post and I don't want a fence post either.
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He would not be a bad option at all if Gruden, Stoops, Patterson or Strong fall through. Def top 5 choice.
 
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I don't understand the underachieving part. He is a great recruiter, puts a great defense on the field, and runs a top 10 program who will probably beat the #4 Gators this weekend. Something we haven't been able to do in a long time. Bama lost when they shouldn't have, The Ducks lost, Notre Dame could lose the game to USC tomorrow. Jimbo hasn't won a National Championship but there isn't many if any on UT's list that have. I like the guy, not as a first choice, but I have him in my top 5.

Jimbo loses games every year that he shouldn't. That's the difference. And his teams are ranked as high because he's in a joke conf.
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Put him in a position to not pickup Texas' scraps, and that will be proven. He's a great coach, but winning at TCU is different than winning at UT.

Yet Jimbo gets great florida talent and finds ways to lose. Patterson would do well at UT, very well.
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Jimbo loses games every year that he shouldn't. That's the difference. And his teams are ranked as high because he's in a joke conf.
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It's like there's something in the water in the ACC because it seems like Dabo, Beamer, Paul Johnson etc all do that. They always seem to wet the bed once or twice a year against against Wake, NC St etc.
 
Yet Jimbo gets great florida talent and finds ways to lose. Patterson would do well at UT, very well.
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Patterson's name needs more traction than it's getting.

I kind of disagree with you about Jimbo. I get what you're saying about losing inexplicably, but I've seen a lot of good coaches do that. Bob Stoops comes to mind, and most of us would love to have him.

I think Jimbo could do well here. But if we can't land the longshots of Gruden or Stoops, then Patterson is who I want.
 
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This is probably a non-issue anyway. Jimbo may be unhappy with the admin at FSU but I think he's using these openings as leverage to get what he wants.

...but I wouldn't be unhappy with him here.

If Gruden doesn't work out, of the college coaches, I'd take Charlie Strong over...most.

Patterson would be a solid hire but he's rarely had to venture outside of Texas to recruit so that would be my only concern, and a small concern at that--all that means is he's done more with "less," if you want to call it that.

Strong or Patterson would each be solid hires.
 
I would be fine with a Jimbo hire. All I asked for was a winning coach to replace Dooley. I will look forward to 2013 no matter who the head coach is. We will be a better football team next year.
 
Every Vol fan should send an email or make a call to the AD and demand thast we don't hire a guy who struggles in the ACC with great talent.

Yes he's better than Dooley but so is a dsamned fence post and I don't want a fence post either.
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if we can't get gruden then fisher would be my number 2, an excellent recuiter
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Patterson's name needs more traction than it's getting.

I kind of disagree with you about Jimbo. I get what you're saying about losing inexplicably, but I've seen a lot of good coaches do that. Bob Stoops comes to mind, and most of us would love to have him.

I think Jimbo could do well here. But if we can't land the longshots of Gruden or Stoops, then Patterson is who I want.

His name does need more traction. Like I posted earlier what he has done at TCU with "terrible" recruiting classes is amazing. Since 2002 they have an average recruiting class of 60th in the nation. 7 bowl wins since he has been there and they have been some good ones in there like the Rose Bowl and the Fiesta Bowl. 12-6 against ranked opponents as well. If Gruden doesn't come to UT I'd love to see this guy. He has done a lot, and beaten some good teams + won some good bowl games with recruiting classes that were super weak in regards to SEC standards. Give the guy a few top ten, hell..top 15 classes in the SEC and see what happens!
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13-6 against ranked opponents, forgot about yesterday.
 
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siap....Vols coaching search is the headline on Rivals.com. Says topping the fans list is Gruden, Fisher and Golden. Not exactly accurate as few seem to want Golden me included. I would take Jimbo Fisher in a heartbeat though. Do I think he's the greatest? No but he would be huge upgrade and has solid assistants provided they come along. I would take him over Patterson just because he knows the south. Patterson has done well at TCU but with his lack of recruiting acumen I'm not sure it would translate to the SEC.
 
His name does need more traction. Like I posted earlier what he has done at TCU with "terrible" recruiting classes is amazing. Since 2002 they have an average recruiting class of 60th in the nation. 7 bowl wins since he has been there and they have been some good ones in there like the Rose Bowl and the Fiesta Bowl. 12-6 against ranked opponents as well. If Gruden doesn't come to UT I'd love to see this guy. He has done a lot, and beaten some good teams + won some good bowl games with recruiting classes that were super weak in regards to SEC standards. Give the guy a few top ten, hell..top 15 classes in the SEC and see what happens!
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13-6 against ranked opponents, forgot about yesterday.

Exactly. Fisher can't carry Pattersons water. Not even close.
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siap....Vols coaching search is the headline on Rivals.com. Says topping the fans list is Gruden, Fisher and Golden. Not exactly accurate as few seem to want Golden me included. I would take Jimbo Fisher in a heartbeat though. Do I think he's the greatest? No but he would be huge upgrade and has solid assistants provided they come along. I would take him over Patterson just because he knows the south. Patterson has done well at TCU but with his lack of recruiting acumen I'm not sure it would translate to the SEC.

That's just crazy talk. That's like saying Brian Kelly wouldn't do well at ND because he didn't bring in top classes at Cincy. Getting kids to go to TCU is a HELLUVA lot tougher than recruiting to UT, total apples to oranges.
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That's just crazy talk. That's like saying Brian Kelly wouldn't do well at ND because he didn't bring in top classes at Cincy. Getting kids to go to TCU is a HELLUVA lot tougher than recruiting to UT, total apples to oranges.
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Acceptance rate to UT is like 70%..TCU is like 30%..and its a private school. The fact he has recruited what he has to the school with success is pretty amazing.
 
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Acceptance rate to UT is like 70%..TCU is like 30%..and its a private school. The fact he has recruited what he has to the school with success is pretty amazing.

Like I said earlier, anyone who thinks Fisher is better than Patterson doesn't know dick about football.
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That's just crazy talk. That's like saying Brian Kelly wouldn't do well at ND because he didn't bring in top classes at Cincy. Getting kids to go to TCU is a HELLUVA lot tougher than recruiting to UT, total apples to oranges.
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Maybe your right but there's a heck of alot of players in Texas. That said I think anyone that comes to UT is almost guaranteed a top 15-20 class with out budget. I would just prefer Fishers experience in the south over Patterson's. I'm sure Patterson is a quality coach but I've never been impressed with TCU's schedule. There have been several years that they have only played between 0-2 ranked teams. This year they will play 5 ranked teams and likely lose 5 games. What does that mean? Nothing really just an observation.
 
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