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Buffalo's Josh Allen.

Identical size: 6'5" 235

Joe runs better.

Joe's arm stronger.

Allen 63.4% pro career completion rate; Joe ~65% in 2022 and (lots of drops) 2023.

Milton 27 TD passes and 4 Ints in 3 years at Tennessee.

Give Milton 3 NFL WRs, 2 NFL TEs and an NFL OLine.

No, Joe Milton is not (yet) Joe Burrow or Peyton Manning. But neither is Josh Allen (nor will he ever be), yet the Buffalo offense is built around his strengths, and it's perennially a Top-10 team.

There is room in the NFL for Joe Milton.
 
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Buffalo's Josh Allen.

Identical size: 6'5" 235

Joe runs better.

Joe's arm stronger.

Allen 63.4% pro career completion rate; Joe ~65% in 2022 and (lots of drops) 2023.

Milton 27 TD passes and 4 Ints in 3 years at Tennessee.

Give Milton 3 NFL WRs, 2 NFL TEs and an NFL OLine.

No, Joe Milton is not (yet) Joe Burrow or Peyton Manning. But neither is Josh Allen (nor will he ever be), yet the Buffalo offense is built around his strengths, and it's perennially a Top-10 team.

There is room in the NFL for Joe Milton.
Buffalo's Josh Allen.

Identical size: 6'5" 235

Joe runs better.

Joe's arm stronger.

Allen 63.4% pro career completion rate; Joe ~65% in 2022 and (lots of drops) 2023.

Milton 27 TD passes and 4 Ints in 3 years at Tennessee.

Give Milton 3 NFL WRs, 2 NFL TEs and an NFL OLine.

No, Joe Milton is not (yet) Joe Burrow or Peyton Manning. But neither is Josh Allen (nor will he ever be), yet the Buffalo offense is built around his strengths, and it's perennially a Top-10 team.

There is room in the NFL for Joe Milton.
You mean He isn't the worst QB in the the SEC ?!
 
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I don’t think anyone would argue he will get drafted. The physical tools and arm strength will be too much to pass on. What he does with it will depend on him, but I have zero doubt he will be all in and do what he is told to do. He can help his stock a ton these next two weeks.
 
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I too like Milton's NFL potential but Josh Allen is arguably a GOAT type talent. Milton can be great but I don't know if he has the intangibles to be a GOAT caliber QB. He reminds me more of Cam Newton than Josh Allen.

I love the way he's improved throughout the season and I think he will be even better down the stretch. We're about to see some great things from Joe.
 
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Anthony Richardson had one year, a losing record and a completion rate in the mid 50s. Makes a long throw followed by a somersault on his pro day and he is drafted 4th.

Im not saying Joe should go 4th but just imagine the hype at his pro day especially if he plays well in the next two games.
 
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I don’t think anyone would argue he will get drafted. The physical tools and arm strength will be too much to pass on. What he does with it will depend on him, but I have zero doubt he will be all in and do what he is told to do. He can help his stock a ton these next two weeks.
Guess you missed the Milton threads before the UConn game
 
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I too like Milton's NFL potential but Josh Allen is arguably a GOAT type talent. Milton can be great but I don't know if he has the intangibles to be a GOAT caliber QB. He reminds me more of Cam Newton than Josh Allen.

I love the way he's improved throughout the season and I think he will be even better down the stretch. We're about to see some great things from Joe.
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Allen completed the only 56% in n college his 2 years starting also threw 21 INTs...6 his last year...they comps to Allen are closer then to Newton...Miltin will be a starting NFL QB
 
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Buffalo's Josh Allen.

Identical size: 6'5" 235

Joe runs better.

Joe's arm stronger.

Allen 63.4% pro career completion rate; Joe ~65% in 2022 and (lots of drops) 2023.

Milton 27 TD passes and 4 Ints in 3 years at Tennessee.

Give Milton 3 NFL WRs, 2 NFL TEs and an NFL OLine.

No, Joe Milton is not (yet) Joe Burrow or Peyton Manning. But neither is Josh Allen (nor will he ever be), yet the Buffalo offense is built around his strengths, and it's perennially a Top-10 team.

There is room in the NFL for Joe Milton.
I would disagree Joe is a better runner. Not even close. As far as arm strength, Allen has a cannon. No, it's not as strong as Joe's, but stronger than most everyone in the NFL
 
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Buffalo's Josh Allen.

Identical size: 6'5" 235

Joe runs better.

Joe's arm stronger.

Allen 63.4% pro career completion rate; Joe ~65% in 2022 and (lots of drops) 2023.

Milton 27 TD passes and 4 Ints in 3 years at Tennessee.

Give Milton 3 NFL WRs, 2 NFL TEs and an NFL OLine.

No, Joe Milton is not (yet) Joe Burrow or Peyton Manning. But neither is Josh Allen (nor will he ever be), yet the Buffalo offense is built around his strengths, and it's perennially a Top-10 team.

There is room in the NFL for Joe Milton.
Agree with your overall point, but I don’t think he’s a better runner than Allen. Allen is probably faster.

But Joe’s upside is huge and he will get drafted on that basis. He’ll move up draft boards as we get closer to the draft.
 
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Been a lot of NFL QB's with great arm strength and speed.I think Joe's potential problem is processing quickly, if he can't do that well he will be very similar to the Cam Newtons and the Michael Vicks of the league.It all comes down to production in the end.Who do you want Joe Milton or Hendon Hooker?They each have things they do well, it comes down to which package will take you the farthest.I'll take Hooker.JMO
 
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Been a lot of NFL QB's with great arm strength and speed.I think Joe's potential problem is processing quickly, if he can't do that well he will be very similar to the Cam Newtons and the Michael Vicks of the league.It all comes down to production in the end.Who do you want Joe Milton or Hendon Hooker?They each have things they do well, it comes down to which package will take you the farthest.I'll take Hooker.JMO
Cam Newton was MVP. Milton will be lucky to be as good as Newton or Vick. Hooker will be a backup
 
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Anthony Richardson had one year, a losing record and a completion rate in the mid 50s. Makes a long throw followed by a somersault on his pro day and he is drafted 4th.

Im not saying Joe should go 4th but just imagine the hype at his pro day especially if he plays well in the next two games.
Agree...I think it's all situational. Does he get on a team/culture that truly fits his skill set. Was highly doubtful about AR, but Colts used him and his skill set very well before he got hurt. I think same for Milton...and quite frankly, I think Hooker, when he gets his chance will be very impactful.
 
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Anthony Richardson had one year, a losing record and a completion rate in the mid 50s. Makes a long throw followed by a somersault on his pro day and he is drafted 4th.

Im not saying Joe should go 4th but just imagine the hype at his pro day especially if he plays well in the next two games.
It was how freakishly athletic Richardson was. His speed, agility, and arm strength got him drafted. Where Joe lacks in his speed and agility he makes up for with his arm strength. I think Joe will be a 2nd day pick. And good for him if so :)
 
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Buffalo's Josh Allen.

Identical size: 6'5" 235

Joe runs better.

Joe's arm stronger.

Allen 63.4% pro career completion rate; Joe ~65% in 2022 and (lots of drops) 2023.

Milton 27 TD passes and 4 Ints in 3 years at Tennessee.

Give Milton 3 NFL WRs, 2 NFL TEs and an NFL OLine.

No, Joe Milton is not (yet) Joe Burrow or Peyton Manning. But neither is Josh Allen (nor will he ever be), yet the Buffalo offense is built around his strengths, and it's perennially a Top-10 team.

There is room in the NFL for Joe Milton.
Right now there a few million dollars difference between the two.
 
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Allen completed the only 56% in n college his 2 years starting also threw 21 INTs...6 his last year...they comps to Allen are closer then to Newton...Miltin will be a starting NFL QB
It's all about being on the right team. Look at Jalen Hurts and the Eagles.
Milton would benefit calling Jalen up and working with the people he hired to improve his game after his rookie year.

I also wish Hype would do like the Eagles when going for it on 4th down. Bring Milton under center and use a TE or lineman to help push Milton for the first down. Watched the Eagles for it on a long 4th and 2 and they got it easily even when the other team knows it's coming. I wouldn't do that on 4th with Nico but Joe. Oh yeah
 
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It's all about being on the right team. Look at Jalen Hurts and the Eagles.
Milton would benefit calling Jalen up and working with the people he hired to improve his game after his rookie year.

I also wish Hype would do like the Eagles when going for it on 4th down. Bring Milton under center and use a TE or lineman to help push Milton for the first down. Watched the Eagles for it on a long 4th and 2 and they got it easily even when the other team knows it's coming. I wouldn't do that on 4th with Nico but Joe. Oh yeah
Absolutely watching the Bengals Bills games...they were talking about Allen arm strength and the Wr hands were bruised...that is where I'm basing my comp...I think with better habits from WR, Joe is a better QB. He plays better when is can just play and not try to make a perfect throw so the WR can handle it. Evidence is the last couple games he has done just that and his WR have stepped up and helped him...
 
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How so many people dismiss the mental part of the game when discussing QBs is beyond me.

Hendon Hooker will be better than anyone mentioned in this thread.
Alot of player improve that part of the game due to the way the NFL coaches and the lack of college distractions...the one who can't overcome those wash out.
 
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Alot of player improve that part of the game due to the way the NFL coaches and the lack of college distractions...the one who can't overcome those wash out.
Everybody’s brain has limits though. Some people process information faster than other people. I’m no expert evaluator by any stretch, but seems to me that Hooker excels in this area whereas Milton is a tick slow. Nico seems to have a loooong way to go in this area but I’ll chalk that up to him being a freshman who’s still adjusting to collegiate speed
 
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Agree with your overall point, but I don’t think he’s a better runner than Allen. Allen is probably faster.

But Joe’s upside is huge and he will get drafted on that basis. He’ll move up draft boards as we get closer to the draft.
Idk, based just on the eye test, and the top speed Joe hit against UTSA, I think he might have better top end speed than Allen. Allen is probably quicker though; he’s shockingly shifty for someone that big.
 

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