Joe Milton Has as much Upside as...

[sjt18]

Agree with finishing 100%. I just think the more Joe plays the better he will get. Same with our wr's and I guess some ways the staff as well. Knowing what we can execute etc. I do believe Nico is going to be very good. As far as red zone execution we need to run the ball either with Milton or the rbs in the RZ. Some of the play calling has left me scratching my head in that area

Has to be executed. You want your playcalling in the RZ to be unexpected.

Funny thing is that Milton's physical skill set should make him elite at it. His arm should be a bigger asset there than anywhere.

 

[MinisterofDef#92]

Buffalo's Josh Allen.

Identical size: 6'5" 235

Joe runs better.

Joe's arm stronger.

Allen 63.4% pro career completion rate; Joe ~65% in 2022 and (lots of drops) 2023.

Milton 27 TD passes and 4 Ints in 3 years at Tennessee.

Give Milton 3 NFL WRs, 2 NFL TEs and an NFL OLine.

No, Joe Milton is not (yet) Joe Burrow or Peyton Manning. But neither is Josh Allen (nor will he ever be), yet the Buffalo offense is built around his strengths, and it's perennially a Top-10 team.

There is room in the NFL for Joe Milton.

Love Joe and I hope you are right but certain intangibles and/or intrinsics may severely limit Joe's NFL career (hope I am wrong)

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

This.. people just throwing Cam Newton name around lol, a lot of his downfall was his own doing (along with some injuries) but give me a prime Cam over Josh Allen.

I do think the Josh Allen comps are more accurate for Joe, he's not the runner Cam was.

Allen is pretty shifty. Newton was a power runner. Neither can carry Jackson's jock as a runner

 

[J C Higgins]

No question about his athletic ability but as others have said there's more to playing QB than being big, fast and able to throw the ball a mile. The past two games have been encouraging but he'll have to continue to show he has "it".

 

[knoxvol52]

Love Joe and I hope you are right but certain intangibles and/or intrinsics may severely limit Joe's NFL career (hope I am wrong)

NFL...defenses much faster..throwing windows close quicker..his decision making will be challenged in NFL....NFL...QB..totally different from College...saying this he would be a nice project for a team that has a established...QB going to be there 2 or 3 more seasons...

 

[vegasvolfan]

I don’t think anyone would argue he will get drafted. The physical tools and arm strength will be too much to pass on. What he does with it will depend on him, but I have zero doubt he will be all in and do what he is told to do. He can help his stock a ton these next two weeks.

Would be a huge story if he wins the next three… everyone will be humbled

 

[Midas]

Buffalo's Josh Allen.

Identical size: 6'5" 235

Joe runs better.

Joe's arm stronger.

Allen 63.4% pro career completion rate; Joe ~65% in 2022 and (lots of drops) 2023.

Milton 27 TD passes and 4 Ints in 3 years at Tennessee.

Give Milton 3 NFL WRs, 2 NFL TEs and an NFL OLine.

No, Joe Milton is not (yet) Joe Burrow or Peyton Manning. But neither is Josh Allen (nor will he ever be), yet the Buffalo offense is built around his strengths, and it's perennially a Top-10 team.

There is room in the NFL for Joe Milton.

If anybody watched Allen’s first year in the league or even 2nd year they would have seen a lot of similarities to Milton’s performances in 2021 and early this year while he was playing injured.

 

[volnbama_]

Lots of circumstances play into it... but Milton is a better version of Richardson.

Senior resumes:

Milton- 65.4% completions, 7.8 yds/att, 15 TD, 4 INT, 224 yds/gm, 147 QBR
Richardson- 53.8% completions, 7.8 yds/att, 17 TD, 9 INT, 212 yds/gm, 131 QBR

It will only help him more if he continues to play like he has the last couple of games.

You’re also talking about a guy that played 3 years of college vs a guy in his sixth year of school. Richardson is also a freak athlete. Joe has a freaky arm but he’s not a particular natural runner. He’s shown the last couple games that he can be a game manager but he’s never showed the ability to carry an offense. Maybe a team takes a chance on him and falls in love with his arm. It’d be great for the program but I personally don’t see it

 

[volnbama_]

And what exactly did Will Levis and Anthony Richardson do last year to show that they had “franchise guy” potential?

Where did Levis get drafted again?

Richardson is an outlier. He was drafted because of his freaky athleticism and arm strength, plus he’s a lot younger than Milton. The jury is still out on him but I think most people that saw him play at UF knew it was a reach

 

[DougVol]

Was not saying Joe is as good as Vick or Newton was, just pointing out that they had similar physical attributes to Joe. While Newton was a MVP he was not considered a high quality starter for very ;long due to other parts of his game. In short arm strength and speed aren't the major indicators to a QB's success in the NFL as they may be in college. Look at Justin Fields, has alot of the same attributes but is slow going through reads leading to sacks. It's nice to have a QB that can run if the play breaks down but is far better to have a QB that can read the D presnap and rapidly go through his reads postsnap with enough arm to make the throws as well as good ball placement.

Vick could avoid a cobra strike in a phone booth. Milton can run in a straight line. Also. Vick could throw it 80 yards too.

 

[miket4god]

Been a lot of NFL QB's with great arm strength and speed.I think Joe's potential problem is processing quickly, if he can't do that well he will be very similar to the Cam Newtons and the Michael Vicks of the league.It all comes down to production in the end.Who do you want Joe Milton or Hendon Hooker?They each have things they do well, it comes down to which package will take you the farthest.I'll take Hooker.JMO

So if he can't process quickly he will be very similar to two overall #1 draft picks? Good grief.

 

[lawgator1]

And the Lifetime Schizophrenia Award goes to ..... Volnation!!

 

[TheVolsFrog]

Bud, take a look at his numbers against the better teams .... he isn't a bad qb. I get it you want to blame the qb. It's not always just the qb. His numbers are what they are on the season, but his wrs have been inconsistent at best on one hand, play calling at times hasn't helped him along with a few times him not being accurate. Its a combination. AR had worse performances and a much worse record in CFB. Dude was playing well. Horrible take in my opinion

They forget Mays wasn't playing. The Center is a key position not only in blocking but Mays helped call out protection. Throw in it appears Joe has been playing with an injured rib which now in hindsight sort of explains the play calling, lets not mention the WR group didn't help.
Joe looked good in clean up duty last season and freaking MVP of the Orange Bowl.
Someone is picking that guy up. Could be a day 2 - 3 pick which isn't bad if you get on the right team. Look at Hurts. Day 2 guy that people questioned.

 

[sami]

I don’t think anyone would argue he will get drafted. The physical tools and arm strength will be too much to pass on. What he does with it will depend on him, but I have zero doubt he will be all in and do what he is told to do. He can help his stock a ton these next two weeks.

It will also depend very much where he gets drafted, what kind of system and coaching, how stable is the franchise, etc. Careers have been wrecked by being drafted into situations where there is a revolving door with coaching staffs and the kid is forced into a different system every year. Joe has all the tools, but will need to land in the right spot.

 

[UTFranklinVol]

Joe still has the rest of the season to get noticed around the country but as of today he simply is not. Most if not all draft services/projections don't have him being drafted in a 7 round NFL draft. He's considered outside the top 10 QBs projected to be draft eligible next year and most have him around 15. If you look at the history of the draft rarely do 15 QBs get drafted in a single year (happened a couple times in the last 25 years).

Much of the opinion around the country of Milton is set in stone at this point because he's in his 6th year. We all know what those opinions are, he is far too inconsistent with his accuracy, he doesn't make good in-game decisions and awareness of where he is on the field.

Can he go out there and destroy Mizzou and Georgia on national TV and change that, yep he can. But right now he's not and if UT goes down in flames the rest of the year he won't be seen in a positive light even more than today.

And before you throw hate at me, these are not MY opinions. This is what is out there on the Internet and what draft trackers and draft projection sites show. I like him and wish him the best.

 

[INDEFENSE]

Well somebody's a little dramatic aren't they Mikey. He will get drafted but not anywhere near that high. I guess the question is are we discussing where he will possibly get drafted at or where his career will take him. Obviously none of us no the answer to either question but my statements were directed at where he will end up since it only takes one person to overdraft a prospect based on physical traits' I believe he has the physical traits to be the first pick in the draft, it's the other traits, the one's I judge to be more important to the position that are holding him back. Can he with time develop those traits, I don't know but at this point with six years coaching he reminds me of Vick and Newton.

 

[cyclevol]

It will be almost more important for NFL scouts to see the passes that got dropped. NFL receivers don't drop most of them

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Been a lot of NFL QB's with great arm strength and speed.I think Joe's potential problem is processing quickly, if he can't do that well he will be very similar to the Cam Newtons and the Michael Vicks of the league.It all comes down to production in the end.Who do you want Joe Milton or Hendon Hooker?They each have things they do well, it comes down to which package will take you the farthest.I'll take Hooker.JMO

Hard to say what’s going to happen with NFL coaching. How many people thought some dude who never done squat at Michigan and was a 6th round pick would become one of the greatest to ever play?

 

[swampfoxfan]

As much upside as my Beagle Dan, and Dan's blind.

It will be almost more important for NFL scouts to see the passes that got dropped. NFL receivers don't drop most of them

 

[08Vol]

It's all about being on the right team. Look at Jalen Hurts and the Eagles.
Milton would benefit calling Jalen up and working with the people he hired to improve his game after his rookie year.

I also wish Hype would do like the Eagles when going for it on 4th down. Bring Milton under center and use a TE or lineman to help push Milton for the first down. Watched the Eagles for it on a long 4th and 2 and they got it easily even when the other team knows it's coming. I wouldn't do that on 4th with Nico but Joe. Oh yeah

The Eagles probably have the best O-line the the NFL. The Vols O-line normally has Ollie Lane playing. That should let you know why the Eagles run plays the Vols don’t even try.

 

[08Vol]

Was not saying Joe is as good as Vick or Newton was, just pointing out that they had similar physical attributes to Joe. While Newton was a MVP he was not considered a high quality starter for very ;long due to other parts of his game. In short arm strength and speed aren't the major indicators to a QB's success in the NFL as they may be in college. Look at Justin Fields, has alot of the same attributes but is slow going through reads leading to sacks. It's nice to have a QB that can run if the play breaks down but is far better to have a QB that can read the D presnap and rapidly go through his reads postsnap with enough arm to make the throws as well as good ball placement.

Newton wasn’t considered a high quality starter for very long b/c NFL officials let him take hits that would draw flags if done against other QBs. Defenders quickly learned they could use kill shots on Cam and not get in trouble. It’s a disgrace that the NFL turned a blind eye to the hits he was taking just b/c he was big.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Milton is a day 3 guy who could be a backup to Richardson, Allen or even Levis. He’s 100 percent boom or bust in the nfl. Heupel’s offense is QB friendly but Milton has struggled with reads. He looks to be improving every week, but I don’t think someone gambles a 1 on him.

Lol. Milton could be better than any of those.

 

[08Vol]

Milton has only thrown 15 TDs this season. His only time at UT to throw at least 3 TDs in a single game was last year against Clemson. I know receivers have dropped some balls, but these are Guarantano passing stats. There is a reason Heupel retooled the offense to focus on the running attack after a few weeks.

 

[VolFanNC09]

Buffalo's Josh Allen.

Identical size: 6'5" 235

Joe runs better.

Joe's arm stronger.

Allen 63.4% pro career completion rate; Joe ~65% in 2022 and (lots of drops) 2023.

Milton 27 TD passes and 4 Ints in 3 years at Tennessee.

Give Milton 3 NFL WRs, 2 NFL TEs and an NFL OLine.

No, Joe Milton is not (yet) Joe Burrow or Peyton Manning. But neither is Josh Allen (nor will he ever be), yet the Buffalo offense is built around his strengths, and it's perennially a Top-10 team.

There is room in the NFL for Joe Milton.

Milton’s stats are better than Anthony Richardson. He really has a 4 game stretch to work his way up the draft board. If he plays like he has past 3 games, I can see him getting drafted in first three rounds.

 

[Randall Stephens]

Been a lot of NFL QB's with great arm strength and speed.I think Joe's potential problem is processing quickly, if he can't do that well he will be very similar to the Cam Newtons and the Michael Vicks of the league.It all comes down to production in the end.Who do you want Joe Milton or Hendon Hooker?They each have things they do well, it comes down to which package will take you the farthest.I'll take Hooker.JMO

Are you under the impression that Mike Vick and Cam Newton are considered bad professional players? Busts?

Cam Newton won an MVP Award for crying out loud. Michael Vick was an MVP runner-up and 4-time pro-bowler, even though the prime of his career was interrupted by a stint in prison.

These are the kinds of pro careers Milton is trying to avoid?