Joe Milton Has as much Upside as...

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It will also depend very much where he gets drafted, what kind of system and coaching, how stable is the franchise, etc. Careers have been wrecked by being drafted into situations where there is a revolving door with coaching staffs and the kid is forced into a different system every year. Joe has all the tools, but will need to land in the right spot.
Absolutely. I still think Shuler and Couch would have been much different in better situations. I also think if. Ready went higher to a different team, we may have never seen him as a starting QB. He’s the goat imo, but he also got into a great situation where he could flourish and not get destroyed early in his career.
 
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If he gets drafted he will tote a clipboard. He doesn’t have the mental capability. Size and stature are there but not between the ears. Honestly I must be watching a different Joe Milton bc this dude isn’t that good. There are a ton of other QBs in the country that are way better. He has a big game against UCONN and he getting props. This actually makes me laugh. He will get beat up the next two weekends. He holds the ball too long and runs like an ostrich.
Your screen name is very suspect. 🤔
 
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He has the potential, but he’s also a sixth year senior lol and about the same age as Levis. He’s way older than Richardson. He should be dominating and he hasn’t been.
Shoulda, coulda, woulda. Who knows what Joe will become. Did Tom Brady dominate in college? No. Neither did Josh Allen, Richardson, Levis or many other QBs who got drafted. Once guys get NFL coaching, things can change dramatically. His age has zero to do with anything.
 
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Shoulda, coulda, woulda. Who knows what Joe will become. Did Tom Brady dominate in college? No. Neither did Josh Allen, Richardson, Levis or many other QBs who got drafted. Once guys get NFL coaching, things can change dramatically. His age has zero to do with anything.

Age is something that is taken into consideration nowadays in the NFL. Generally, 'older' QB's are considered a greater risk because they might be pushing 30 before they are up to NFL speed. It was one of the marks against Hooker going into the draft last season, and one reason Richardson was so attractive to the NFL along with his physical attributes.

But you're right - it's all about potential and tools with the NFL, and Joe has those in spades. Getting to the right place will make or break his chances.
 
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Shoulda, coulda, woulda. Who knows what Joe will become. Did Tom Brady dominate in college? No. Neither did Josh Allen, Richardson, Levis or many other QBs who got drafted. Once guys get NFL coaching, things can change dramatically. His age has zero to do with anything.
It has everything to do with where he will get drafted. I’m so glad the volnation experts can educate the peons from time to time.
 
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combine combine combine this is where he will shine and shoot up the draft boards.same thing w/ richardson last year.somebody in the first 3 or 4 rounds will take a flyer on him.now if he shines in the next 2 games may get in the 2nd.
 
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A team drafting top 5 is looking for a franchise guy. Milton is not that. He’ll probably stick around the league as a backup for many years

Well, not trying to sound snarky, but you must possess one helluva great & powerful crystal ball that has many definitive answers in it regarding Joe's narrowed future. Personally, I like to think that with a great QB coach and a good cast surrounding Joe, that he could be a first or second round draft choice - esp considering the absolute panic in the NFL right now regarding the mortality rate of current QBs.

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Well, not trying to sound snarky, but you must possess one helluva great & powerful crystal ball that has many definitive answers in it regarding Joe's narrowed future. Personally, I like to think that with a great QB coach and a good cast surrounding Joe, that he could be a first or second round draft choice - esp considering the absolute panic in the NFL right now regarding the mortality rate of current QBs.

I hope you’re right but I just don’t see it. Joe is closer to JG than Hooker or Dobbs. Milton is averaging under 2 passing TD per game this season. He’s averaging 224 passing yards per game. He is an average CFB QB and a main reason why Heupel adjusted the offense to be a run first attack.
 
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Well, not trying to sound snarky, but you must possess one helluva great & powerful crystal ball that has many definitive answers in it regarding Joe's narrowed future. Personally, I like to think that with a great QB coach and a good cast surrounding Joe, that he could be a first or second round draft choice - esp considering the absolute panic in the NFL right now regarding the mortality rate of current QBs.

Yeah, well that’s my opinion. I hope he gets drafted high but he hasn’t shown much in his 6 years in college that says NFL QB.
 
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Yeah, well that’s my opinion. I hope he gets drafted high but he hasn’t shown much in his 6 years in college that says NFL QB.
Well, Reggie White's Frosh year at UT was forgettable. Wasn't until one of our D coaches told Reggie that the man w the ball was the DEVIL - and the rest was history. (true story)

Correct coaching helps
 
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Well, Reggie White's Frosh year at UT was forgettable. Wasn't until one of our D coaches told Reggie that the man w the ball was the DEVIL - and the rest was history. (true story)

Correct coaching helps

Not sure that’s relevant to Milton but I hadn’t heard that story before. Good stuff
 
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Why would he be top 5 in a midseason draft? He’s likely round 3 or later after the season
This simply emphasizes my thoughts on IF an NFL draft were held today. Who the hell is Tommy DeVito Corleone??

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Shoulda, coulda, woulda. Who knows what Joe will become. Did Tom Brady dominate in college? No. Neither did Josh Allen, Richardson, Levis or many other QBs who got drafted. Once guys get NFL coaching, things can change dramatically. His age has zero to do with anything.
Don't know about football but I lived next door to a pro baseball scout for a few years.

Two things I remember him saying:

1. We don't care what grade a guy is in. We want to know the date of birth.
2. We'll almost always take a chance on a tall left-hander with a fastball.
 
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They seem to be figuring it out with Joe. Hooker does process faster. He's more instinctive. But give Heupel credit. He has discovered ways to mitigate that while maximizing the things JM does well.

I would like to see Milton and this O be the finishers that Hooker and his units were. The Vols had 481 yds vs UK this year. Last year in a pretty impressive blowout... it was 433. The Vols scored 7 times in both games. But in 22 there were 6 TDs and 1 FG. This year 3 TDs and 4 FGs. QB performance is ALWAYS a big factor in TDs vs FGs.
Regarding the processing difference. Is it actually processing, does Hyatt and Tillman etc getting separation quicker od the line make the difference?
 
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If you had Milton physical abilities with what I have already seen of Nico’s awareness, you would be looking at a guaranteed future hall of famer
 
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Regarding the processing difference. Is it actually processing, does Hyatt and Tillman etc getting separation quicker od the line make the difference?

Not as much as those who would excuse Milton want to think. Milton is playing better now. He's been more accurate and on time. He appears to be taking a little off and throwing a more catchable ball. Honestly, I don't think the receivers are getting any more separation than they were before. He hit Keyton this past week on a throw he missed by a wide margin earlier in the year.

I am tickled to give Joe credit for settling in and improving his performance. Can you not admit that he was a big part of what was off?
 
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Joe won’t sniff the top 5 even though I’m happy he is playing well

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I hope he continues to improve
 
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I was very critical of Joe going in to this season. He has played well recently. Some of the plays he made against UK he has never made in his career, specifically the scramble drill throwing on the run. I think his draft stock is still TBD. If he finishes strong down the stretch, skys the limit.
 
Surely you aren't comparing Allen's comp. % in the pros to Milton's in college football. For one, there is little difference in their respective numbers, but Allen is throwing against pros in much tighter windows. It's fine to compare their physical skills, but Milton isn't in the same zip code as Allen as a passer.

Allen has the strongest arm in the NFL, currently. Joe's may be stronger, but its negligible at that point. Allen can throw it 80 yds, so how often will it really be practical/relevant that Milton can maybe throw it 90 yds? It's probably sufficient to say that both have strong arms and can make every throw on the field based solely on arm strength.

What evidence is there that Milton is a better runner? Milton has rushed for 627 yards in 40 career college games. Josh Allen ran for 762 yds in 16 games last season, alone. In college, he ran for 767 yds in 27 career games. Allen ran a 4.75 40 at the NFL Combine and Milton ran a 4.78 40 at Tennessee's Pro Day, last spring.

There is certainly a place for Milton in the NFL based solely on his physical traits. Someone is going to fall in love with his ability and think they can be the one to refine him much like Heupel has twice, now.
Allen’s completion % in college was much worse.

 

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