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We will pay the next coach. No way they look for a coach "On Sale". They will be paid 4-5 millon per year. Stoops, meyer, Saban money will be spent. Money won't be the reason we don't get a big name coach. Ticket prices going up 5.00 per ticket pays for it.
 
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He got lazy?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R4cJXWB0t0[/youtube]

Great interview btw. He said he wants to coach again if it's the right place. And no , I'm not implying Tennessee. Wouldn't be against it though.
 
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God_glows_Orange said:
he's never coming to tn and never will. first of all, we can't afford him. secondly, he's not interested. so stop already.
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Dont be so sure about that..If he said he was interested they could raise the money to get him. That wouldnt be an issue at all. He was interested last time but we had an idiot AD that supposedly screwed that up. So this post is not accurate. Not saying he would take it, but we would be in much better shape than the last go around and the biggest reason he didnt last time isnt here anymore. The boosters would make sure we got the money if that was the deciding factor.
 
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localvol said:
You are not intelligent enough to understand that some people need a challenge to be happy. Some people have an itch deep down to be competitive, and prove that they can win. Sometimes it's not only about money.
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You have no idea how ignorant and misinformed your first sentence happens to be.
 
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God_glows_Orange said:
he's never coming to tn and never will. first of all, we can't afford him. secondly, he's not interested. so stop already.
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He probably won't, but it's just stupid to say that there's no chance in hell, the posters that have said Gruden has interest in the job hold alot more weight in their words than you do.
 
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tnvols72 said:
a very close friend of mine who is a booster tells a different story than you do.He also wasnt thrilled along with alot other boosters when Mikey had hired Dooley and the Boosters were willing to pay good money for a big hire.Gruden may not be the next hire but to say they dont have the money is BS.
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Your 10000% correct..and for some to say he isnt and has never been interested couldnt be more wrong. Hamilton completely screwed that deal up. He had interest and I guarantee people in the know would confirm that.
 
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"he's not interested"

Welp, I'm glad we've got a first-hand source from someone who's talked to Gruden and knows this without a doubt.
 
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Blackmarket803 said:
He probably won't, but it's just stupid to say that there's no chance in hell, the posters that have said Gruden has interest in the job hold alot more weight in their words than you do.
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+10000..Not saying he would definitely take it but there would definitely be mutual interest and a chance Chucky is the next HC. I would feel like a school boy getting my first pie*e if we got him. He has always been one of my faves and seeing him calling games and seeing how personable he is makes him even more likeable.
 
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Jerry the Clown said:
"he's not interested"

Welp, I'm glad we've got a first-hand source from someone who's talked to Gruden and knows this without a doubt.
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Poster Montrell Hardy lives in Ohio and knows Jay Gruden. He said Jon wants the job if it's open. Montrell is no troll and like many have said , he just doesn't put stuff like that out there. Do I know it's a fact? Nope. But I don't think he would make it up. It's just not his style. Now Tennessee might not be or have the $ , but to say he wouldn't listen if they were makes no sense. And I'm not posting this thinking he is on his way and it's a done deal. I just think it's dumb to say there isn't a chance at all when Gruden has been talking about returning to football a lot lately. And he has said he is not just interested in returning to the NFL.
 
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Vol2424 said:
Poster Montrell Hardy lives in Ohio and knows Jay Gruden. He said Jon wants the job if it's open. Montrell is no troll and like many have said , he just doesn't put stuff like that out there. Do I know it's a fact? Nope. But I don't think he would make it up. It's just not his style. Now Tennessee might not be or have the $ , but to say he would'nt listen if they were makes no sense. And I'm not posting this thinking he is on his way and it's a done deal. I just think it's dumb to say there isn't a chance at all when Gruden has been talking about returning to football a lot lately. And he has said he is not just interested in returning to the NFL.
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Right on..And i definitely believe our prominent Boosters would make sure the money was there if that was the last obstacle. And imagine the recruiting he could do here. I mean the moms would love him. He is a Super Bowl Coach, would have the knowledge and ability to convince kids he knew what it would take to get them to the next level. He could potentially be our Saban. I could never pull for UT to lose but if a bad season guaranteed us getting him it would help cushion the blow.
 
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I am totally ripping this off from another site, but it needs to be said --and said in this thread! And since these thoughts are not my own originals , no need trying to pass them off that way.


There is some disagreement as to what "insider" information is available, and of that, what is believable.

Here's what is easily verifiable, and to which we should all agree:

Jon Gruden has ties to Tennessee, both personally and professionally.
He is one of the most accomplished young coaches in all of football.
While its debatable that he is the best QB coach in all of football today, he is inarguably in the Top 3.
He is old school, and a great respector of its many traditions.
He has a deep and sincere passion for the game, played at any level.
He is so well-known and widely regarded as to have college QB's waiting in line for his scrutiny, even before the draft, just to glean a small amount of personal instruction from him.
He is not currently employed, and by his own admission, wants to return to coaching, whether at the college or pro level.

We are Tennessee.
Despite our recent and now nearly decade-long slide toward mediocrity, we are a tradition-rich and historically powerful and rightfully proud program that can be mentioned amongst the other elite programs in the nation.
We have the best facilities in the nation. Bar none.
We have a 100,000 seat stadium.
We play in the best football conference that God has ever graced the history of humanity the joy of witnessing - and we find ourselves standing here, now, astride it's goldest of ages - and which is only growing larger and more acclaimed by the passing second.
We have 2 of the Top 50 richest men in America as major boosters.
We finally have and AD that not only "gets it" - but who is both skilled enough to develop a strategy and powerful enough to accomplish it.
We have thousands of rabid and passionate fans who are thirsty - desperate, even - to get back to our rightful place of national prominence.
We have a more active and vocal generation of fan who is unwilling to accept large spans of mediocrity, and only being punctuated by the anomalous "big season" once a decade, as some were willing to do in times past.

We have every reason in the world to go after Gruden, and every resource required to make it happen.

And while you have every reason to doubt that they'll make it happen - you have EVERY RIGHT TO EXPECT THEM TO DO SO.

And if they do not make it happen, then it is because they didn't WANT TO, and not becuse they COULD NOT.

Look around this website - a microscopic example of the fanbase - and count how many people that you are absolutely positive could deliver Gruden to Knoxville, given some of the money these guys have, and would do so within 24 hours? How many do you count that could be relied on to do that, of those here? 50 or more?

Then why should we not expect them to do the same?

And they should be held accountable, and at every turn, because it was within their power to do it, and they didn't.

And you will have every right to be angry if they fail to do so. They are not islands unto themselves, or some vaporous figure on the mount. And if they don't deliver what you deserve, who cares how much money, influence and good intentions they have or had - if they don't leverage those things to deliver what we need?

And if they can't do that, who needs them? Maybe MTSU or Memphis, but not us.

I know the perils of hope - but you should EXPECT and DEMAND Gruden. We should not be talking about other and lesser candidates, and abandoning the hill before the first shot is even fired.

Smart, Patterson, Strong and the rest are all good coaches who may do an adequate job here, but why are we so willing to gamble on any of them, who for all intents and purposes, are no more but shinier and slightly more accomplished versions of Dooley.

We are Tennessee. We need Gruden. We deserve Gruden. We should demand Gruden. We are right to EXPECT Gruden.

And if he's not delivered, you SHOULD BE ANGRY, disappointed, let-down at being forced to settle for some imitating and cheaply made alternative. Again.


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jasonvol18 said:
Your 10000% correct..and for some to say he isnt and has never been interested couldnt be more wrong. Hamilton completely screwed that deal up. He had interest and I guarantee people in the know would confirm that.
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this guy told me that Grudens name was brought up several times to MH and he never gave Gruden a 2nd thought.true or not I dont know. but he did tell me nobody was going to like the hire but he never said Dooleys name but thats who he was talking about.
Im still confused why the OP said they cant afford to pay but then responded and said their pockets are deep.
 
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tnvols72 said:
this guy told me that Grudens name was brought up several times to MH and he never gave Gruden a 2nd thought.true or not I dont know. but he did tell me nobody was going to like the hire but he never said Dooleys name but thats who he was talking about.
Im still confused why the OP said they cant afford to pay but then responded and said their pockets are deep.
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If we can't afford to pay then why are we building 50 million dollar athletic facilities or whatever it cost to build it. JayTrain said it best, if we only have 1.7 million to pay a coach, which was a suggested figure by someone, we should just tear the stadium down.
 
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Vol2424 said:
Poster Montrell Hardy lives in Ohio and knows Jay Gruden. He said Jon wants the job if it's open. Montrell is no troll and like many have said , he just doesn't put stuff like that out there. Do I know it's a fact? Nope. But I don't think he would make it up. It's just not his style. Now Tennessee might not be or have the $ , but to say he wouldn't listen if they were makes no sense. And I'm not posting this thinking he is on his way and it's a done deal. I just think it's dumb to say there isn't a chance at all when Gruden has been talking about returning to football a lot lately. And he has said he is not just interested in returning to the NFL.
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Yeah, Montrell isn't a troll and brings alot of good insight to the boards. He's definitely a realist and doesn't see the football world through orange tinted glasses. The money excuse is absolutely bogus, if Gruden is hired, donations will go through the roof, and keeping Dooley with constant 7-5 seasons will cost the university more money than buying him out and getting a home run hire (attendance will plummet, merchandise sales will nose dive, season tickets will be sent back, limited TV exposure).
 
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