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MedicT said:
It all depends on how high an alter you have erected for Gruden I suppose.
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MedicT said:
Lunch and I needed a destressor. LOL that or I'm a gluton for punishment....Either way, another thought that comes to mind, and I am an admitted Dooley guy for the next 2 weeks anyway, is how bad it would be to see a mediocre performance this week just good enough to win without any real improvement over what we have seen. Even the doubters have seen moments of good football so far. Pains me to say this but if the figurative tide has already turned against Dooley then it would almost be better to lose by a wide margin if a coaching change is seriously being considered by the AD. No great addition to the conversation I know and it has probably already been discussed here but hey I needed a momentary distraction. Now back to pulling what is left of my hair out.
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Stole a little of my thunder Medic. I was going to pose the same question. What if we only won by say, 28 to 27? What would the sentiment be then? Would it still possibly give Dooley another year? Personally, a win over State doesn't change my mind. We SHOULD beat them anyway.
 
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Just curious, if FL, GA, and SC were 10-8, instead of 17-1, would our discussion be different? just curious to hear thoughts. and i will end this with one of Teddy's great quotes for thought also.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
 
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99bubble said:
Just curious, if FL, GA, and SC were 10-8, instead of 17-1, would our discussion be different? just curious to hear thoughts. and i will end this with one of Teddy's great quotes for thought also.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
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If Florida and Georgia combined to lose several games so far despite still beating us, that would make our losses look worse.
 
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99bubble said:
Just curious, if FL, GA, and SC were 10-8, instead of 17-1, would our discussion be different? just curious to hear thoughts. and i will end this with one of Teddy's great quotes for thought also.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
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