Jon Gruden thread (merged)

[thebjd]

I hope we are both wrong brother

Its now or never or this these types of threads will dominate the board between now and Christmas

I too am hoping for a big win Saturday. I hate living here and losing to UGA.

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Look, you guys want Gruden, that's fine.

I'm not entirely opposed to the possibility of it, but I would rather have someone in college right now who is coaching. That's just me.

 

[VolRock]

Looking at the records after they won their championships, how the defenses help hold their teams together, and how they melted down the last season they were here, it does look similar.

Im convinced that the problem with our program will only be resolved when every Fulmer hater finally admits they were wrong. Fulmer Karma snakebit craziness will continue and we will also continue to put a coach like gruden on our christmas wishlist

C;mon eric we can convert you right now and be one step closer to ending Fulmer Karma!
Just type "I was wrong about ole fatty" see its easy
now type " I will never say we can do better about a coach who has a ring and 152 wins"

 

[ukvols]

Also that he was the "tuck rule" from getting Oakland to the Super Bowl over Brady and the Pats. Gruden may not ever happen but he is the best possible scenario available. I would rather have someone from the Bill Walsh tree than try to out Saban Bama with his assistants.

This.

The idea of our head coach having worked under the coach of our rival scares me. Teacher will usually beat student.

 

[Blackmarket803]

Look, you guys want Gruden, that's fine.

I'm not entirely opposed to the possibility of it, but I would rather have someone in college right now who is coaching. That's just me.

fair opinion imo

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Im convinced that the problem with our program will only be resolved when every Fulmer hater finally admits they were wrong. Fulmer Karma snakebit craziness will continue and we will also continue to put a coach like gruden on our christmas wishlist

C;mon eric we can convert you right now and be one step closer to ending Fulmer Karma!
Just type "I was wrong about ole fatty" see its easy
now type " I will never say we can do better about a coach who has a ring and 152 wins"

Fulmer should have been gone in '05, or sooner. We waited too long, and his complacency killed our program's ability to sell itself.

 

[thebjd]

So, because he's on MNF as a commentator, that automatically makes him the right guy to coach here, because people see him on TV?? You know as well as I do, that even Kiffin was surprised about how much it took to recruit here.

The SEC is just a much bigger battleground than the Pac-10. He wasn't used to being challenged for every recruit.

 

[VolRock]

Fulmer should have been gone in '05, or sooner. We waited too long, and his complacency killed our program's ability to sell itself.

See folks I tried.. expect yet another second half meltdown in Athens on Saturday..because "we can do better"

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

The SEC is just a much bigger battleground than the Pac-10. He wasn't used to being challenged for every recruit.

I understand that, I'm talking about recruiting here at UT at a level needed to get to Atlanta.

 

[Boston Vol]

Maybe so, but he's not been in a recruits home in 21 years. We don't have time for him to work off the rust.

It doesn't matter, every recruit in the country knows who he is.

 

[VolRock]

Fulmer should have been gone in '05, or sooner. We waited too long, and his complacency killed our program's ability to sell itself.

and I disagree obviously..what got him was his loyalty to Randy Sanders..who btw beat our current coach with a WR playing QB last year..but
"we can do better"

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

It doesn't matter, every recruit in the country knows who he is.

Sure they do, because he breaks down tape of QB's entering the draft. Most of them haven't seen him coach since they have been in HS.

 

[JayVols]

What's his schedule and work ethic right now?? Monday nights from 8pm-11pm??

Wakes up 3:30 am daily, goes to his office, studies film of quarterbacks from
across the natiln that are begging for his advice. Seriously, Eric, you're smarter than this.

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Wakes up 3:30 am daily, goes to his office, studies film of quarterbacks from
across the natiln that are begging for his advice. Seriously, Eric, you're smarter than this.

So, he's good in the film room, what else can he do??

 

[JayVols]

Is this thread going to go on forever? This is making the fan base look just plain stupid. We have a thread of over 1,500 posts about a freaking espn employee becoming our next head coach and he's going to take us back to the glory land and we will be better than Bama and lsu starting day one and all will be well. STFU stop riding this guys d..k and stop talking about him. He not the second coming of Jesus. He is not coming to Tennessee there is no secret contract he is not "building his staff". This thread makes us look like some lower tier team who is waiting for some miracle coach to fall in our lap and make us a national champion. Gruden probably has his assistant come read this thread daily and tell him the updates so he can laugh and point at poor ole Tennessee. We are probably the laughing stock of espn.. No wonder everything thinks they hate us. Ok I've vented about this dumb thread. I feel much better.

Your post made 1,501. Thanks for perpetuating that which you want to go away. Your contributions are appreciated.

Oh, it's Dooley that's responsible for making us look like a second tier team.

 

[chavisut]

Yet, after winning one ring, and all those supposed hours involved, he managed a sub .500 record. Look, Gruden looks good from the outside, but the man has NEVER recruited at a level needed to win in the SEC. That's what we need RIGHT NOW, someone with the relationships with current HS coaches, so we can get the players we need to win.

He was above .500. He also had more division titles than losing seasons.

 

[zjcvols]

So, he's good in the film room, what else can he do??

Dear God.

 

[thebjd]

I understand that, I'm talking about recruiting here at UT at a level needed to get to Atlanta.

I believe Kiffin could hold serve with the rest of the conference in recruiting. I also liked his offensive philosophy. I think Gruden would be better with the x's and o's and be a much more credible recruiter.

 

[Boston Vol]

Sure they do, because he breaks down tape of QB's entering the draft. Most of them haven't seen him coach since they have been in HS.

so what? They know he won a Super Bowl as a HC. His no nonsense attitude would be a hit with parents. Most of the top offensive skill position players in the country would at least consider coming to Knoxville.

 

[chavisut]

So, he's good in the film room, what else can he do??

Coach football better than anybody in the SEC not named Nick Saban.

 

[JayVols]

Monte Kiffin is the reason he won his Super Bowl. Without Tampa's D, Gruden wouldn't have his only ring.

Uh, no team wins without a defense.

 

[JayVols]

No.. would just prove that you are obviously commenting on a subject that you are not educated on
Thanks for playing

I like your style.

 

[Boston Vol]

So, he's good in the film room, what else can he do??

Really? He won the Super Bowl with Brad Johnson as his starting QB. The Raiders were a mess when he took over. Three years later they were in the AFC title game.

 

[JayVols]

Doing what?? Coming up with counters to Jaws comments in the booth??

When you find yourself in a hole, first thing to do is to stop digging. You're about to hit magma.

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Uh, no team wins without a defense.

Looking at who has won a SB in the past 12 years, not many teams have won without having a decent defense.