Jon Gruden thread (merged)

[utmba93]

Look, you guys want Gruden, that's fine.

I'm not entirely opposed to the possibility of it, but I would rather have someone in college right now who is coaching. That's just me.

Eric, ole buddy, don't let this become the coaching version of your views on Cam. This guy can coach like Cam plays. :hi:

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

When you find yourself in a hole, first thing to do is to stop digging. You're about to hit magma.

Sorry, I haven't watched a MNF game this year. The NFL hasn't interested me this year, especially with the scab refs.

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Eric, ole buddy, don't let this become the coaching version of your views on Cam. This guy can coach like Cam plays. :hi:

Gruden slammed Cam, if I remember correctly. So, that would make another person who was wrong.

 

[JayVols]

Why, because some documentary makes Gruden look like some kind of badass, yet he's never out recruited anyone for any player in the SEC.

So drop the work ethic thing and start riding recruiting. Keep throwing stuff at the wall. Maybe you'll get lucky and something will stick.

 

[VolRock]

Coach football better than anybody in the SEC not named Nick Saban.

lol:
gold!

 

[VolRock]

I like your style.

Thanks JayVol
I love your avitar:hi:

 

[ukvols]

Brad Johnson also led the NFC in QB rating that year. Monte did that as well.

I think people's lasting image of that SB game is the defensive scores, which causes everyone to focus on Monte.

 

[utmba93]

Gruden slammed Cam, if I remember correctly. So, that would make another person who was wrong.

That's probably true... didn't know it, though, as he is bit old school... puts the QB under the center at times and whatnot... so I could see him passing on Cam as well. But, he knows Peyton is the master of all masters on the offensive side of the ball.

You fit with Gruden, buddy. :hi:

 

[chavisut]

So drop the work ethic thing and start riding recruiting. Keep throwing stuff at the wall. Maybe you'll get lucky and something will stick.

The work ethic questioning was flat out wrong. Worrying about recruiting I can understand, although I would be worry free.

 

[ukvols]

It was an epic meltdown by Monte's D that got Gruden fired. Remember that?

He got screwed by the refs on the "tuck rule" or he would have taken the Raiders to the Super Bowl.

I wondered at the time if the D melted down, because they knew Monte was leaving to come here, coincidentally.

 

[gcbvol]

So, he's good in the film room, what else can he do??

I cannot believe you just asked that. His accomplishments and qualifications have been discussed ad nauseam in this thread. Do you remember when Kiffin was working so hard to get UT in the headlines and generate interest with recruits? Hiring Gruden would far exceed all that stuff instantly - that's something else he could do without really trying, just for starters.

 

[Godfatha]

So, you would take your chances on a guy who hasn't coached in almost 4 years??

What's your pick? UT has to go big or go home.

 

[JayVols]

No, he just doesn't have the relationships in HS's we need right now to recruit with the big dogs. Do we even know if he wants to recruit?? Studying film all day, is COMPLETELY different than recruiting.

 

[Godfatha]

Really? He won the Super Bowl with Brad Johnson as his starting QB. The Raiders were a mess when he took over. Three years later they were in the AFC title game.

Agree. What have the Raiders done since?

 

[Vol2424]

What's your pick? UT has to go big or go home.

In his opinion , Strong is a grandslam hire and Jon is nothing but a bunt.

 

[utmba93]

Agree. What have the Raiders done since?

Gave a memorable shot at record long field goal kick :dunno:

 

[Boston Vol]

The work ethic questioning was flat out wrong. Worrying about recruiting I can understand, although I would be worry free.

There's no need to worry about recruiting. Hell, the coaching staff does most of the recruiting anyway. With his connections and reputation he would be able to put together an all-star staff. If the current staff can put together top 15 classes I have little doubt that a Gruden staff would bring in top-tier classes.

 

[Godfatha]

See folks I tried.. expect yet another second half meltdown in Athens on Saturday..because "we can do better"

Yeah Fulmer had no meltdowns against Georgia, Bama or Florida. They were just massive dumpster fires.

 

[Godfatha]

Gave a memorable shot at record long field goal kick :dunno:

True. And they did bequeath us Lane Kiffin,

 

[RichRollin]

I wondered at the time if the D melted down, because they knew Monte was leaving to come here, coincidentally.

In all fairness that was part of it. They also had 5 of their front 7 dinged up. It's glaringly obvious that both the Raiders and Bucs have went downhill since he left.

 

[JayVols]

So, he's good in the film room, what else can he do??

You do some looking. You obviously haven't the slightest clue on the subject.

 

[utmba93]

In his opinion , Strong is a grandslam hire and Jon is nothing but a bunt.

lol:

I'd take either one over Dooley, but seriously?

My guess would be 18 or the top 20 QB's in the nation would visit UT in any given year to consider coming with CJG at the helm. We know what happens when a guy like PM joins the program... others follow... then championships are at hand.

I do agree we'd need an awesome DC... although Sal may turn out to do the trick (too early there still).

 

[thebjd]

Yeah Fulmer had no meltdowns against Georgia, Bama or Florida. They were just massive dumpster fires.

He was fired with a winning record by a wide margin against two of those three teams.

 

[Godfatha]

In his opinion , Strong is a grandslam hire and Jon is nothing but a bunt.

That 18-12 record in the Big East has me sold.

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

I think people's lasting image of that SB game is the defensive scores, which causes everyone to focus on Monte.

Yeah, having the same amount of points scored on defense, as offense, in a game will do that.