Jon Gruden to Miami FL (merged)

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Curiouser and curiouser...

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Donald Trump has sent letter to Miami prez Donna Shalala urging school to hire Mike Leach. No joke.
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Miami's athletes + Leach's offense = deadly.
Miami's media + Leach's personality = disaster in the making.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Miami+Leach= nothing special.
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So, adding better athletes to an offense that has proven over time it can put up monstrous numbers equals nothing special.

This is one of your weaker trolling efforts, did you switch to decaf?
 
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spudvol said:
So, adding better athletes to an offense that has proven over time it can put up monstrous numbers equals nothing special.

This is one of your weaker trolling efforts, did you switch to decaf?
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Adding a coach who has never won a conference title to a team that likes competing for national championships=a tenure that ends in a firing.
 
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sgorten Steve Gorten
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There is a #UM team meeting scheduled for Thursday at 3 p.m. Not sure what it's about. don't jump to conclusions
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tvolsfan said:
Okay?

Leach would do better in a conference with little competition, like the WAC.
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Prove it. Oh, that's right, you can't because it's an opinion stated as a fact. You never learn.

Let's deal with reality (the change will do you good). Explain how an offense that averaged 40+ points/game for over a decade will be "nothing special" when stocked with much better athletes.
 
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spudvol said:
Prove it. Oh, that's right, you can't because it's an opinion stated as a fact. You never learn.
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Prove what? That Leach wouldn't do better in the WAC? What are you actually trying to argue.

Let's deal with reality (the change will do you good). Explain how an offense that averaged 40+ points/game for over a decade will be "nothing special" when stocked with much better athletes.
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After you explain how a coach who won has won more than 10 games once in a decade of coaching (and whose best team got murdered in their biggest game) will suddenly start competing for national titles.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Prove what? That Leach wouldn't do better in the WAC? What are you actually trying to argue.


After you explain how a coach who won has won more than 10 games once in a decade of coaching (and whose best team got murdered in their biggest game) will suddenly start competing for national titles.
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I've never mention championships in regard to Leach. Let me do the rewind for you since you're only interested in moving the goalposts.

Me- Leach's offense + Miami's athletes = deadly.
You- Leach + Miami = nothing special.

Now, once again, explain to me how an offense that averaged 40+ points/game for over a decade will be "nothing special" with better athletes. (Hint- the explanation does not involve championships.)
 
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spudvol said:
I've never mention championships in regard to Leach. Let me do the rewind for you since you're only interested in moving the goalposts.

Me- Leach's offense + Miami's athletes = deadly.
You- Leach + Miami = nothing special.

Now, once again, explain to me how an offense that averaged 40+ points/game for over a decade will be "nothing special" with better athletes. (Hint- the explanation does not involve championships.)
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If an AD hires someone to score points instead of win championships, they should be immediately fired and ridiculed. Scoring a bunch of points while losing a lot of games isn't special. At all.
 
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tvolsfan said:
If an AD hires someone to score points instead of win championships, they should be immediately fired and ridiculed. Scoring a bunch of points while losing a lot of games isn't special. At all.
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There goes those goalposts again.

Now, once again, explain to me how an offense that averaged 40+ points/game for over a decade will be "nothing special" with better athletes. (Hint- the explanation does not involve championships.)
 
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spudvol said:
There goes those goalposts again.

Now, once again, explain to me how an offense that averaged 40+ points/game for over a decade will be "nothing special" with better athletes. (Hint- the explanation does not involve championships.)
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Because special involves winning championships. Otherwise, it's just stat whoring.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Because special involves winning championships. Otherwise, it's just stat whoring.
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Opinion stated as fact again. Was Eric Berry a special player? According to your definition, since he didn't win any championships, he was simply a stat whore.
 
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spudvol said:
Opinion stated as fact again. Was Eric Berry a special player? According to your definition, since he didn't win any championships, he was simply a stat whore.
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Obvious difference being that a players job is to play his position well, which Berry does. A coaches job is to win championships, and Leach hasn't ever done that.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Obvious difference being that a players job is to play his position well, which Berry does. A coaches job is to win championships, and Leach hasn't ever done that.
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But we aren't talking about championships, we are talking about offenses. Leach's job as an offensive coach is to score as many points as possible which he does better than almost anyone. So the question isn't can Leach win championship at Miami, the question is can Leach's offense score points at Miami?
 
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spudvol said:
But we aren't talking about championships, we are talking about offenses.
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You're talking about offenses. I'm talking talking about winning, seeing as that's the head coaches responsibility.

Leach's job as an offensive coach is to score as many points as possible which he does better than almost anyone. So the question isn't can Leach win championship at Miami, the question is can Leach's offense score points at Miami?
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Too bad Leach isn't applying for the position of 'offensive coach.'
 
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