Jon Gruden to Replace Les Miles at LSU?

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chavisut said:
Gruden has it made at Tampa, no way he leaves.
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This^^

I think people just need something to talk about during the offseason, so they come up with this crazy idea that Gruden will leave Tampa or that the Glazers would become the King and Queen of Stupid and fire him.
 
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This thread is somewhat strange feeling.Gruden ain't going to lsu, however Les is gone after this year . He will not beat al. &he will lose at least 3 more besides that one . Old friends of mine, wanted it last year.The heat is on his a**, you have to look at the bone headmoves & mistakes he makes to see he's not that great of a coach. throw in the talent they recruit each year no reason they should do what they do. don't know who the coon asses will get, but I know to most of them they don't care as long as les is gone after this year, barring a he** of a year.
 
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The_Orange_Pearl said:
To further prove my point...

Rich McKay general manager took over in 93 and stayed til 2003. The Bucs were trash when he took over. He built their Super Bowl roster.

Do you know what he has done since? Rebuilt the Falcons after Vick became a screw up. He drafted Matt Ryan and got them back to the playoffs.
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Thomas Dimitroff from the Patriots drafted Matt Ryan. McCay was fired for drafting poorly in the upper rounds (Jamaal Anderson, for example).

And this is where you argued that Gruden was better than Dungy:

The_Orange_Pearl said:
Gruden winning a championship with the Bucs is no different than Dungy with the Colts. For some reason Dungy seems to get more credit though. The only difference is Gruden endorses Tebow, a Christian while Dungy endorses animal killers. I hate Tebow but I have far more respect for him than I ever will Vick. Gruden is better than Dungy in my opinion. Winning one championship with Manning is sad. So is endorsing people just because they are black
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There is no real evidence that Gruden is more successful as a coach than Dungy. They both have one championship, which is an amazing accomplishment. They are both excellent coaches.

My point was that your distinction between Dungy and Gruden was based solely on whom they endorsed, which is sloppy thinking. Gruden, as an ESPN announcer, said he thinks Tim Tebow can be an NFL qb. Dungy, as a former coach (and a devout Christian), said he would like to support Mike Vick in his return to football.

The situations are nothing alike. Neither makes one a better coach.
 
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Vol_fan_in_Tampa said:
I only have four posts (5 now) but live in Tampa and have for the last 7 years. I watched Gruden single handedly dismantle the team that Dungy's Staff created. To make things more ironic, the "offensive mastermind" made the Bucs one of the worst offenses in the NFL. The sad thing is the NFC SOUTH wasn't that strong the majority of the Gruden years "Interestingly, no team in the NFC South has earned back-to-back postseason appearances since the division's creation in 2002 Wapedia - Wiki: NFC South"
OFF/DEF
14 / 9 in 08
18 / 2 in 07
29 / 17 in 06
24 / 1 in05
22 / 4 in 04
9 / 4 in 03
24 / 1 in 02
Does Gruden know Xs and Os yes. Helps too when your old team doesn't change their play calling and you meet them in the super bowl.

Now I will admit the man is the best MNF commentator in a long time and explains plays and football theory well even to the average football fan. His place is in the booth not on a sideline. (he could go to LSU and that would be fine though!)

So look at what Dungy did in Indy.
OFF/DEF
14 / 8 in 02
2 / 13 in 03
2 / 28 in 04
3 / 11 in 05
3 / 21 in 06
5 / 3 in 07
15 /11 in 08
9 / 18 in 09

Gruden left TB hurting. He focused heavily on older players (veterans) rather than the youth and made many promises to the players that he failed to keep. Sounds like another coach we are familiar with.


Just because someone doesn't post often doesn't mean their post isn't worthwhile or valid. Especially when most posts are cynical or one or two words. Course what do I know..... I only have 5 posts.
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+1

Just because I don't post frequently doesn't mean I'm not paying attention or my posts aren't worth reading. It just means I don't have time to post more often.
 
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If Gruden ends up coaching at LSU or any other college, Mike Hamilton needs to start packing his bags.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I don't find this particular joke very amusing.
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Some folks don't get internet humor. The joke should have some believability. Gruden leaving the Bucs is like saying the sun will not rise tomorrow.

Hopefully, this episode of embarrassment for Charles Haynie and his effort at joke telling will serve as a lesson for others.

Try to keep it real, folks... even if it is a joke.
 
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The_Orange_Pearl said:
Well Dungy never accomplished anything with the Bucs so what makes you think he had any say in the draft picks? He certainly didn't have any say in Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dwight Freeney etc. They were already there.

Gruden winning a championship with the Bucs is no different than Dungy with the Colts. For some reason Dungy seems to get more credit though. The only difference is Gruden endorses Tebow, a Christian while Dungy endorses animal killers. I hate Tebow but I have far more respect for him than I ever will Vick. Gruden is better than Dungy in my opinion. Winning one championship with Manning is sad. So is endorsing people just because they are black.
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Get a clue.
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I'll ignore the endorsements, because it doesn't matter to me. However, nothing he said about their achievements was really wrong. I won't say only winning one super bowl was bad, but he is right about the comparison.
 
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Gruden hated rookies, he does not deal with "kids" well, he will not coach college ball anywhere. He was asked about his interest in the USC gig too. If he coaches again it will be in the NFL.
 
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Sjernigan88 said:
Gruden hated rookies, he does not deal with "kids" well, he will not coach college ball anywhere. He was asked about his interest in the USC gig too. If he coaches again it will be in the NFL.
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I think UT is one of the few places he would coach if he decided to coach in college. And I think he would adapt fine to the game. He may have preferred veterans, but I have no reason to believe he couldn't adapt.
 
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He has won a super bowl I do not think there is ever a case to turn back a level in a coaching career after you have won the big one.
 
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volinexile17 said:
Thomas Dimitroff from the Patriots drafted Matt Ryan. McCay was fired for drafting poorly in the upper rounds (Jamaal Anderson, for example).

And this is where you argued that Gruden was better than Dungy:



There is no real evidence that Gruden is more successful as a coach than Dungy. They both have one championship, which is an amazing accomplishment. They are both excellent coaches.

My point was that your distinction between Dungy and Gruden was based solely on whom they endorsed, which is sloppy thinking. Gruden, as an ESPN announcer, said he thinks Tim Tebow can be an NFL qb. Dungy, as a former coach (and a devout Christian), said he would like to support Mike Vick in his return to football.

The situations are nothing alike. Neither makes one a better coach.
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Exactly. However don't try to be logical with him that type of post is right on par for The Orange Clown.
 
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lilesrt said:
There is alot of chatter on tigerdroppings about Jon Gruden replacing Les Miles at years end if Les Miles loses to Alabama in Tiger Stadium this season. That would make Miles 0-3 vs. Saban. At first I thought it was just "hear say" fan chatter but now they have an article posted on ESPN Insider about this being a real possibility. Could you guys imagine what would happen to this site if Jon Gruden passed on the UT job but accepted the LSU gig? I do not even want to imagine.
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It would make Miles 1-3 vs. Saban. He beat him the first time he faced Saban as Alabama's coach.

If Gruden ended up at LSU, he'll just suck down there like he would have sucked if he'd come to Tennessee. He went 45-53 over his last six seasons as a head coach, and he's about 15 years removed from being a part of college football.
 
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