Joshua Dobbs progress thread

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In conclusion, what I am trying to get across is we should always be better than Vandy no matter what. :)
 
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lovavol said:
Now you can join the op in stupid post catagory.....freshman starting on a rebuklding team against top notch teams....time to grasp some reality
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So that's a valid excuse for not being able to move the ball at all? Allsome. I'll gladly fall into your stupid post category if that's the case. I'll just add you to ignore. Congrats, you're now on the same level as utfantilidie.
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Col_Cathcart said:
Personally, I've been let down by his running ability too. Did you see how well Tebow, Cam Newton, and Vince Young ran from the QB position? So much better than Dobbs imo.
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All of those guys are a lot bigger physically and I imagine much stronger. Nevertheless, I personally wouldn't complain too much about Dobbs' performance running the ball. He currently has 20 carries for 114 yards (5.7 yards per carry) and ripped off 33 and 32 yard runs against Missouri and Auburn, respectively (UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics - Football). His 33-yard scamper was the longest run by a Tennessee quarterback since Tee Martin in 1999.
 
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Col_Cathcart said:
You seem to be trying to...
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Uh no. I'm only arguing that Dobbs' attributes so far are basically, well the ability to run instead of check down. Everything around him is sub par too, but Dobbs hasn't done ANYTHING to show he is ultimately the answer or even any better than Worley.
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Dobbs is not playing to impress the posters on VN. Also there are a lot of couch coaches on here that are extremely critical when they really have no clue. So this is Dobbs first game against a non top 10 team. If anyone thinks he doesn't deserve some slack is nuts.

Yes him not having any passing TDs is a little worriesome. But he would have probably 3 passing TDs if receivers caught the ball. Now I will be a little concerned is he doesn't put up some passing TDs today and next week, but he is learning. He is an 18 year old kid who is being asked to lead a rebuilding team that is playing the toughest schedule in school history in the toughest conference in CF.

So to those of you who are strongly criticizing Dobbs, what were you doing at 18 years old?
 
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I'm just excited to see how he does in a game where he (presumably) won't be playing from behind all game.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Dobbs is not playing to impress the posters on VN. Also there are a lot of couch coaches on here that are extremely critical when they really have no clue. So this is Dobbs first game against a non top 10 team. If anyone thinks he doesn't deserve some slack is nuts.

Yes him not having any passing TDs is a little worriesome. But he would have probably 3 passing TDs if receivers caught the ball. Now I will be a little concerned is he doesn't put up some passing TDs today and next week, but he is learning. He is an 18 year old kid who is being asked to lead a rebuilding team that is playing the toughest schedule in school history in the toughest conference in CF.

So to those of you who are strongly criticizing Dobbs, what were you doing at 18 years old?
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I guess freshmen shouldn't be expected to actually make plays? Am I reading that right? It is completely allowed in the NCAA.

Stop making excuses. Nobody expected him to light it up vs. Bama and not many were dumb enough to think he'd beat Mizzou. But the occasional bright spot would have been nice. Like maybe ONE touchdown. possibly.
 
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BornOrange33 said:
People that give him flak thus far amaze me. The kid has had to start his first 3 games all against top 10 talent. He's inexperienced, his WR are inexperienced. Yet, some think he should of been lighting these teams up. It's comical.
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Manziel sure lit it up early. So did that Florida St quarterback. Some players just have it. Dobbs certainly doesn't have it yet.
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I think Ferguson should be on standby tonight if Dobbs flops the first half. Not sold on this kid at all. No big plays yet this year, no TD passes, no fire. Waiting patiently for him to prove me wrong. Growing impatient though.
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rcvol said:
Manziel sure lit it up early. So did that Florida St quarterback. Some players just have it. Dobbs certainly doesn't have it yet.
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Redshirt vs True freshman?
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Manziel and Winston were both REDSHIRT freshmen when they became starting quarterbacks. There is a world of difference in having that additional season to master a qb's grasp of the offense before being thrown into action.
 
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rcvol said:
Not sure it matters too much. Those guys are good, period. Not sold on Dobbs yet.
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It matters...especially since you brought up how much they're LIGHTING it up...Manziel in the summer after his redshirt year went to the QB guru in California to fix the kinks in his throwing delivery...if he had started halfway point the year before...he would have been lights out?
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Volosaurus rex said:
Manziel and Winston were both REDSHIRT freshmen when they became starting quarterbacks. There is a world of difference in having that additional season to master a qb's grasp of the offense before being thrown into action.
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Tell that to RGIII, Vince Young, Chad Henne, Phillip Rivers, Peyton Manning, Matt Stafford, Josh Freeman, Kevin Kolb, Terrelle Pryor, etc.

It's been done before. Some guys just have IT.
 
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butchna said:
It matters...especially since you brought up how much they're LIGHTING it up...Manziel in the summer after his redshirt year went to the QB guru in California to fix the kinks in his throwing delivery...if he had started halfway point the year before...he would have been lights out?
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Manziel's instincts are outrageously good, so I think he would have been successful regardless.
 
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rcvol said:
Tell that to RGIII, Vince Young, Chad Henne, Phillip Rivers, Peyton Manning, Matt Stafford, Josh Freeman, Kevin Kolb, Terrelle Pryor, etc.

It's been done before. Some guys just have IT.
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All were true freshmen.
 
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rcvol said:
All were true freshmen.
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And all of them had the same scenarios that Dobbs has right? Every one of those guys had a bunch of young receivers, they started their careers against the #1 team in the country, then had to play 2 more top 10 teams in a row. But some just have it and some do 😝.

Also more often than not true freshman are not that successful. Guys you listed are the exceptions to the rule
 
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rcvol said:
All were true freshmen.
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All of them had growing pains...the closest to lights out as a true freshman was Henne..RGIII grade is incomplete due to his blown knee...as of his junior year many down here in Texas wanted Vince to start playing receiver..that the IT that he had
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He needs to get us in the endzone in this game. We have went up and down the field and bogged down. We need him to lead us to some touchdowns tonight. I hope he likes cold weather.
 
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rcvol said:
Tell that to RGIII, Vince Young, Chad Henne, Phillip Rivers, Peyton Manning, Matt Stafford, Josh Freeman, Kevin Kolb, Terrelle Pryor, etc.

It's been done before. Some guys just have IT.
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I know I'm only combating a specific example you mentioned, but did you seriously not read the post by the person comparing Dobbs to Manning and their freshman starts earlier in the thread. The differences in scores weren't that great until late in the season when Peyton played against bad teams. Dobbs had a harder schedule overall. Truthfully though, Dobbs may not be the next rg3 or Manziel or Manning. Anyone who expects that is kind of unrealistic. Probability says that Fergy isn't like that either.

Also people keep saying 'no passing touchdowns'; it literally blows my mind that people do not take into account at least 3 dropped/wr failure touchdown passes. There was also an amazing play by a cb in the alabama game that prevented a td pass. You can't just say that it is 'his' inability to get into the endzone as if he were the only factor in scoring a passing td.

Do people not watch games? I'm pretty sure people complaining about no TD passes would be saying different things if those passes had been caught.(I know, putting words in their mouths) And that makes no sense as the difference between scoring and not scoring in those scenarios is WR ability/play and not QB ability.

However, I actually agree that I don't know whether Dobbs will pan out. I just get tired of hearing arguments being repeated that don't make sense.

(Valid points: poor progressions, uncertain touch on deeps balls, maybe others I'm forgetting)
 
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What a joke. Throwing ducks...throwing picks. If we didn't have Riley we would be screwed. It doesn't take an Engineering degree to see that DB standing right between him and the receiver.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Dobbs play is indicative of the play calling

When the play calling gets better, his game will improve
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I think you have it reversed. When we start getting competent QB play, the play calling will look better. I don't care what you call, it will look bad if the players can't execute it.
 
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