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hatvol96 said:
Wow, you're lost as the other guy. Did the wife take the remote and you didn't get to watch Sean Hannity for some new material tonight?
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:eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol:

Who gave you that one, Michael Moore, Barbara Streisand or Al Franken?
 
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volsforever27 said:
Hatvol: everyone sucks but me.


Now pat yourself on the back because you think you've proven something. So there's no libertarian to vote for, you don't have much in the way of options.
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There most certainly will be a Libertarian Party candidate on the ballot. Are you really this uninformed? Wait, you believe Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Of course you're that uninformed. Now, go back to disgracing the concept of conservatism with your hawkish, theocratical beliefs.
 
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hatvol96 said:
There most certainly will be a Libertarian Party candidate on the ballot. Are you really this uninformed? Wait, you believe Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Of course you're that uninformed. Now, go back to disgracing the concept of conservatism with your hawkish, theocratical beliefs.
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Wow I'm glad I came back... there will be otons of names on the ballot, but feel free to vote for whoever you choose. Isn't America great? Or does saying that make me 'hawkish and theocratical"?

Thanks for the entertainment, before I go to bed tonight I think I'm going to put that on my profile.


Oh yeah, can't let the WMD comment pass, so you know more than an Iraqi general? I knew you had a high opinion of yourself, but come on... anyways I'm typing all this with a big theorcratical smile on my face. Also if you're going to say your the other kind of "lib" (Libertarian), then instaed of the talkig points the DNC uses about Bush and the other R's, how about giving some deserved critcism for Obama and company?
 
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hatvol96 said:
Them, too.
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Then if I was you, I would be ashamed to be spouting off the same rhetoric as the above mentioned. Here's a hint for you: if you find yourself agreeing with what Sean Penn has to say, it's time to sit back and analyze some things.
 
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volsforever27 said:
Then if I was you, I would be ashamed to be spouting off the same rhetoric as the above mentioned. Here's a hint for you: if you find yourself agreeing with what Sean Penn has to say, it's time to sit back and analyze some things.
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Given his approval ratings, it's quite apparent that the opinion that Bush is an incompetent fool crosses all political, ethnic, gender, and other lines.
 
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volsforever27 said:
Then if I was you, I would be ashamed to be spouting off the same rhetoric as the above mentioned. Here's a hint for you: if you find yourself agreeing with what Sean Penn has to say, it's time to sit back and analyze some things.
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No. I shouldn't. If Michael Moore says that Cuba is a model for the American health care system, I say he's an imbecile. If he says George Bush is an inept, corrupt, psedoChristian moron, I say he's right. See, I'm smart enough to separate messenger from message. Plenty of people around here are obviously lacking in that regard.
 
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volsforever27 said:
Wow I'm glad I came back... there will be otons of names on the ballot, but feel free to vote for whoever you choose. Isn't America great? Or does saying that make me 'hawkish and theocratical"?

Thanks for the entertainment, before I go to bed tonight I think I'm going to put that on my profile.


Oh yeah, can't let the WMD comment pass, so you know more than an Iraqi general? I knew you had a high opinion of yourself, but come on... anyways I'm typing all this with a big theorcratical smile on my face. Also if you're going to say your the other kind of "lib" (Libertarian), then instaed of the talkig points the DNC uses about Bush and the other R's, how about giving some deserved critcism for Obama and company?
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Did Obama vote to authorize the single most idiotic foreign policy excursion in American history? There's plenty wrong with Obama's platform. However, I at least respect the man's intellect and integrity. Can't say either of those things about the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
 
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hatvol96 said:
There's plenty wrong with Obama's platform. However, I at least respect the man's intellect and integrity. Can't say either of those things about the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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You seriously respect Obama's integrity? Come on. You know just like I that he would walk an extra mile to say what people want hear rather than stay put and tell the truth. That's probably true of most politicians, but Obama seems especially Chameleon-like.

Regardless, Bush has badly damaged the conservative cause by completely destroying what it stands for, so skewer away. As to the Iraqi mistake, I believe there is more there than meets the eye. It has been an int'l relations disaster, but good will eventually come of the US having a Forward Operating Base in the ME.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Did Obama vote to authorize the single most idiotic foreign policy excursion in American history? There's plenty wrong with Obama's platform. However, I at least respect the man's intellect and integrity. Can't say either of those things about the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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Consider the scandals he's been having lately (i.e. his associations) and then in the same breath you claim Bush doesn't have any. You're consitently inconsistent.
 
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hatvol96 said:
No. I shouldn't. If Michael Moore says that Cuba is a model for the American health care system, I say he's an imbecile. If he says George Bush is an inept, corrupt, psedoChristian moron, I say he's right. See, I'm smart enough to separate messenger from message. Plenty of people around here are obviously lacking in that regard.
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Must be lonely on that pedestal. Can you go 5 minutes without putting down half the board?
I'm still waiting to hear about how Obama would be bad for the country, or Hillary. Please continue the rhetoric, it's funny especially at this time of night. I'm still waiting to hear how you know more than an Iraqi general, but if you still disagree with the reasons on going there, that's fine. Saying Bush is an idiot is ok, too. I'm not exactly thrilled with him myself at times, but some of the things you say, although you consider yourself a Libertarian, comes straight from the DNC talking points and are ridiculous. Yes Bush's approval ratings are low, so are the House and Senate, yet I've yet to see you level the insults at them that you have Bush. Is is too much to ask you to be fair in your criticisms? Somehow I think the answer is yes. Just go ahead and say it: you have Bush Derangement Syndrome. Admitting it is the first step in solving the problem. Or am I being too hawkish?
 
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The thing that amazes me about people that throw out the WMD argument with Bush is the fact that they seem to ignore the previous 3-4 years before 9/11... when Clinton and the Dems were all harping on Saddam and WMD's. Clinton even went so far as to send a few tomahawks into a few tents in Afghanistan with WMD's as the justification for that action.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Yeah, inhibiting medical research because the lamebrain inhabitant of the Oval Office thinks stem cell usage offends God, that really is saving religious freedom. Attempting to put limits on a woman's right to make her own reproductive decisions is essential to people's free exercise of religion. Right.
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Hat I believe the issue with fetal stem cells (for me anyway) is they have produced very little if anything in the way of breakthroughs. Adult stem cells on the other hand have. I have no problem in using those adult stem cells for research since they have proven to produce results.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Yeah, inhibiting medical research because the lamebrain inhabitant of the Oval Office thinks stem cell usage offends God, that really is saving religious freedom.
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Medical research is not inhibited. I agree with you that his reasoning is incorrect. But as a libertarian it would seem you would be all for the government getting out of such areas altogether?
 
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I agree with a lot of what he says (especially how religion is a destructive fraud) but I think he's a prick.
 
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TheGimp said:
I agree with a lot of what he says (especially how religion is a destructive fraud) but I think he's a prick.
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It is truly sad but some of the worst atrocities man has committed against his brother have been in the name of religion.
 
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volinbham said:
Many great things have been done in the name of religion as well. (FWIW - I'm not a religious person)
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True. Just like politics, it is not religion that is the problem; it is leaders that use their power for their own goals and objectives rather than for the principles of the party or religion.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The thing that amazes me about people that throw out the WMD argument with Bush is the fact that they seem to ignore the previous 3-4 years before 9/11... when Clinton and the Dems were all harping on Saddam and WMD's. Clinton even went so far as to send a few tomahawks into a few tents in Afghanistan with WMD's as the justification for that action.
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Exactly. There is plenty to hit Bush on to throw that crap out. The Clinton administration and most of the UN agreed they had them and they most likely did but 11 years to hide things in an area that large is not hard to do. I guess he must have used all his gas on the Kurds.

If you wanna bash be fair to both sides. How about the aspirin factory in Sudan? Bombing in Bosnia from 30,000 feet for political reasons, collateral damage be damned and yet we are still in BOSNIA? I hate hypocrites on either side.

Bush is not fiscal conservative and deserves to be lambasted for his spending and the leaders of the GOP as well. The problem is what party has the moral ground to stand on? The Dems? :eek:lol:

Leadership in our national Capitol is lacking in a major way.


 
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TheGimp said:
I agree with a lot of what he says (especially how religion is a destructive fraud) but I think he's a prick.
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Calling religion a destructive fraud is going a little far. If it is not right for you thats fine. But there is as much evidence for the existence of a higher being as there is against it.
 
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