Just read Limbaugh's comments in context

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National advertising has been suspended for 2 weeks after 100 +/- companies pull ads from Rush's show.
 
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Gramps said:
National advertising has been suspended for 2 weeks after 100 +/- companies pull ads from Rush's show.
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Ruh-Roh Raggy.... He'll just go to satellite radio if this continues. No way his mic goes silent. Waaaay to many followers.
 
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I still think the whole thing is nuts. It's clearly not about what he said WRT Fluke - it's about what he says (conservative viewpoints) that motivated the campaign to get advertisers to drop him.

I just don't see why people can't just not listen to viewpoints they oppose rather than try to silence them.
 
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volinbham said:
I still think the whole thing is nuts. It's clearly not about what he said WRT Fluke - it's about what he says (conservative viewpoints) that motivated the campaign to get advertisers to drop him.

I just don't see why people can't just not listen to viewpoints they oppose rather than try to silence them.
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I disagree.

I think he went over the line in the name calling. IMO, this is on the same level as the Don Imus ordeal.

I don't think it is his conservative viewpoints.
All the adverstisers knew Rush is a far right wing conservative before they spent their first dollar advertising on his show.
 
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Gramps said:
I disagree.

I think he went over the line in the name calling. IMO, this is on the same level as the Don Imus ordeal.

I don't think it is his condervative viewpoints.
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When Ed Schultz called Laura Ingraham a slut on the air, many from the left and right called for his suspension, which he wound up imposing on himself. The same groups demanding that Rush be pulled off the air and threatening to boycott his sponsors did not do the same to Schultz.

I don't know of a truer apples-to-apples comparison than that.
 
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You think his name calling merits a nationwide effort by people who already don't listen to him?

To me this was a "we've finally got him on something" moment where his opponents can pressure advertisers to dump him. My Facebook blew up with petitions etc.; most from people who didn't like him or listen to him to begin with.

Put another way, if this is ONLY because of the comments he made then this country is in more trouble than I imagined.
 
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bamawriter said:
When Ed Schultz called Laura Ingraham a slut on the air,
many from the left and right called for his suspension, which he wound up
imposing on himself. The same groups demanding that Rush be pulled off the air and threatening to boycott his sponsors did not do the same to Schultz.

I don't know of a truer apples-to-apples comparison than that.
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I dont think you can compare Fluke to Ingraham.
 
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volinbham said:
You think his name calling merits a nationwide effort by people who already don't listen to him?

To me this was a "we've finally got him on something" moment where his opponents can pressure advertisers to dump him. My Facebook blew up with petitions etc.; most from people who didn't like him or listen to him to begin with.
Put another way, if this is ONLY because of the comments he made then this country is
in more trouble than I imagined.
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Did the Don Imus nappy head comments merit him being fired?
 
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volinbham said:
You think his name calling merits a nationwide effort by people who already don't listen to him?

To me this was a "we've finally got him on something" moment where his opponents can pressure advertisers to dump him. My Facebook blew up with petitions etc.; most from people who didn't like him or listen to him to begin with.

Put another way, if this is ONLY because of the comments he made then this country is in more trouble than I imagined.
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Agreed.
 
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Gramps said:
volinbham said:
You think his name calling merits a nationwide effort by people who already don't listen to him?

To me this was a "we've finally got him on something" moment where his opponents can pressure advertisers to dump him. My Facebook blew up with petitions etc.; most from people who didn't like him or listen to him to begin with.
Put another way, if this is ONLY because of the comments he made then this country is
in more trouble than I imagined.
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Did the Don Imus nappy head comments merit him being fired?
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On Imus - no.

Just as comparing Ingram and Fluke is apples to oranges so is Fluke to Rutgers BBall. Fluke was a long time activist who testified to advance a political position. She put herself into the fray. Doesn't justify Rush's comments.
 
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volinbham said:
I still think the whole thing is nuts. It's clearly not about what he said WRT Fluke - it's about what he says (conservative viewpoints) that motivated the campaign to get advertisers to drop him.

I just don't see why people can't just not listen to viewpoints they oppose rather than try to silence them.
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Disagree. While he has always had his enemies, he has always had sponsors. He hasn't changed his views one bit. You are incorrectly painting him as the victim. While I fully support his right to express his views on Fluke, he must be willing to accept the ramifications of his words when others exercise their right to not be associated with him. Can't have it both ways. After all, isn't it conservatives that constantly preach about responsibility like Rush preached responsibility to Fluke? Well, time for him to live what he preaches. The situation that he finds himself in is of his own doing by his own words. No one is responsible for the fallout except Rush himself.
 
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JayVols said:
Disagree. While he has always had his enemies, he has always had sponsors. He hasn't changed his views one bit. You are incorrectly painting him as the victim. While I fully support his right to express his views on Fluke, he must be willing to accept the ramifications of his words when others exercise their right to not be associated with him. Can't have it both ways. After all, isn't it conservatives that constantly preach about responsibility like Rush preached responsibility to Fluke? Well, time for him to live what he preaches. The situation that he finds himself in is of his own doing by his own words. No one is responsible for the fallout except Rush himself.
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I don't think anyone is calling him a victim, nor is anyone defending his moronic name-calling.

However, there are several of us questioning whether his offense merits the response. It is the right of a business to not want to be associated with him, and I have no problem with his sponsors dropping him. But why have similar reactions not followed similar offenses?
 
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bamawriter said:
I don't think anyone is calling him a victim, nor is anyone defending his moronic name-calling.

However, there are several of us questioning whether his offense merits the response. It is the right of a business to not want to be associate with him, and I have no problem with his sponsors dropping him. But why have similar reactions not followed similar offenses?
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I certainly question whether the "offense" merited the Obama administration's involvement. Maybe the president really doesn't have anything better to do than call ol' Sandy and make sure her feelings didn't get hurt.
 
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bamawriter said:
So, because Ingraham has been a public figure longer than Fluke, she's fair(er) game?
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he hasn't said it yet, but I'n guessing that he finds no problem with Ed Schultz's choice of language b/c ingraham has a radio show. ignoring the fact, of course, that ingraham's audience is not a congressional committee. also, ignoring that fluke, the professional protester, injected herselfinto the debate.

bad language is bad language, imo. the "target" doesn't make the name calling appropriate. again only my opinion
 
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volinbham said:
On Imus - no.

Just as comparing Ingram and Fluke is apples to oranges so is Fluke to Rutgers BBall. Fluke was a long time activist who testified to advance a political position. She put herself into the fray. Doesn't justify Rush's comments.
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I do not think Imus should have been fired, neither do I think all these sponsors should be pulling their ads.

They are both basically "shock jocks" and both went too far. Both should have made sincere apologies. MSNBC and CC both should have also made public apologies, fined both men and continue on with business.

Every sponsor Rush and Imus had knew the kind of rant they went on with. I think both are so big they thought they can say anything they want.
 
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dreVol said:
he hasn't said it yet, but I'n guessing that he finds no problem with Ed Schultz's choice of language b/c ingraham has a radio show. ignoring the fact, of course, that ingraham's audience is not a congressional committee. also, ignoring that fluke, the professional protester, injected herselfinto the debate.

bad language is bad language, imo. the "target" doesn't make the name calling appropriate. again only my opinion
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Wrong..

Ed Schultz was very wrong also.

Ingraham makes her living pissing off the left. That does not give Ed Shultz the right to call her a slut.

Had you ever heard of Sandra Fluke before Rush started ranting about her.

I do not agree with Fluke's political stance at all, but what Rush did was wrong.
 
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