Carl Pickens
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So Trump would have named replacements for Scalia, Kennedy, and Ginsburg? So you can argue he replaced a conservative, a moderate, and a liberal justice.
You should feel horribly guilty that he was selected as the repub nominee. If your stance is that no other republican could have beaten Hillary, you should feel even worse about your party.As we debate Trump's legacy and evaluate whether he was the right choice in 2016, can you imagine what that court would look like if Hillary had named 3 justices and its implications for America? To all Trump voters: Don't ever let liberals guilt trip you about voting for such a political novice. Regardless of what happens in November, it was worth it
You still don't understand 2016. The Republicans that usually vote turned out because they hated Hillary. What put Trump over the top were the people who thought that their voices weren't being heard on immigration, job losses, etc. , and were tired of scripted politicians, and wanted to try something different.You should feel horribly guilty that he was selected as the repub nominee. If your stance is that no other republican could have beaten Hillary, you should feel even worse about your party.
Ding ding dingYou still don't understand 2016. The Republicans that usually vote turned out because they hated Hillary. What put Trump over the top were the people who thought that their voices weren't being heard on immigration, job losses, etc. , and were tired of scripted politicians, and wanted to try something different.
Call me loco, but I don't see how belittling and shaming others who don't think as you is effective at winning people to your cause.You should feel horribly guilty that he was selected as the repub nominee. If your stance is that no other republican could have beaten Hillary, you should feel even worse about your party.
I know that's your take and was true for you. You've done an excellent job of making that clear. I will agree that it is a partial explanation, but it is in no way a complete explanation. The bigger part, and there is some overlap with what you are saying, is that a number of people viewed Trump as a big middle finger to the left and the things the left represents. I've seen that very thing said in the PF by multiple people. That middle finger to what the left "represents" is full of undertones, and for many Trumpers, those undertones are deplorable.You still don't understand 2016. The Republicans that usually vote turned out because they hated Hillary. What put Trump over the top were the people who thought that their voices weren't being heard on immigration, job losses, etc. , and were tired of scripted politicians, and wanted to try something different.
I doubt that it is. I use a completely different approach in the "real world".Call me loco, but I don't see how belittling and shaming others who don't think as you is effective at winning people to your cause.
And how will this be different that the undertones of the anti-Trump and anti-right vote be this time? How will it not be a big middle finger to Trump?I know that's your take and was true for you. You've done an excellent job of making that clear. I will agree that it is a partial explanation, but it is in no way a complete explanation. The bigger part, and there is some overlap with what you are saying, is that a number of people viewed Trump as a big middle finger to the left and the things the left represents. I've seen that very thing said in the PF by multiple people. That middle finger to what the left "represents" is full of undertones, and for many Trumpers, those undertones are deplorable.
We will never agree on the breakdown of motivators.
I am. Thanks for holding up the mirror.I doubt that it is. I use a completely different approach in the "real world".
During my first few ventures into the PF I was repulsed by much of what I read. I adopted a persona and have just sort of stuck with it. I thought if some could see their reflection, they might be shocked into changing. Never really worked out. Amazingly, they seemed perfectly happy with the reflection they saw.