Karl Marx, Leon Trotsky, Vladimir Lenin and Donald Trump - Socialist Comrades

#51
#51
MontyPython said:
Donald Trump is not a Republican. He's a Socialist.

He is now hell-bent on changing our nation from a free-market Democratic Republic to a Socialist collective.

Proof certain:

(1) Trump continues to advocate for the $600/week federal unemployment insurance. Combined with the average state benefits around $400, the average unemployed American was being paid around $52,000 per year TO NOT WORK. This is insane! Given the federal minimum wage is $7.25 - equivalent to roughly $16,000/annually - why would any low-wage people work at this point? I've seen this first hand here in NC, where adults simply refuse to take jobs that are available and, instead, sit at home on their ass and collect $1,000/week. With adults unavailable from the work pool, guess who's working instead? That's right: Kids! 14 and 15 year olds are now having to pick up the slack from lazy ass adults.

Why is this happening? Trump's (and Democrats') pure Socialist policy of paying (read: rewarding) the unemployed to not work.

(2) On Monday, Trump floated the possibility of taking unilateral action if a deal could not be made with Democrats, claiming he has the power to step in and curtail Congress should there be a need. The president specifically noted the moratorium on housing evictions that recently expired. Trump said:

"A lot of people are going to be evicted but I’m going to stop it because I’ll do it myself if I have to," Trump said at the White House. "I have a lot of powers with respect to executive orders and we’re looking at that very seriously right now."

This is equally insane and another example of pure Socialist policy. Sure, preventing renters from being evicted will help renters, but what about the owners? Obviously, such a policy harms all property owners who rent out to tenants. Moreover, it again rewards renters for NOT PAYING THEIR RENT, and most importantly, ENCOURAGES RENTERS NOT TO PAY THEIR RENT. Why would anyone pay their rent anymore if there is no consequence for NOT paying rent?!? If Trump were to prevent evictions via Executive Order, he would clearly cement himself as a dyed-in-the-wool Socialist. Period.

This is unabashed Socialism.

(3) Finally, the obvious huge fallacy in Trump's "logic": If he succeeds in continuing the $600/week fed unemployment money, why would he even consider an executive order preventing evictions?!? Under this scenario, the average two-person household IF UNEMPLOYED, could be receiving $2,000/PER WEEK TO SIT ON THEIR ASS AND DO NOTHING! This is $8,000+ per month. How the hell could "normal people" not afford to pay their rent, if they're collecting $8K/month in unemployment benefits?

Answer: Trump is a Socialist plain and simple. The facts speak for themselves.

Rewarding people to remain unemployed for extended periods of time is NOT the American way. If Trump and Democrats have their way, this situation will continue through AT LEAST the beginning of 2021 if not longer.

We don't live in a Socialist collective. This is a capitalist society, and it needs to stay that way.

Trump is a damn fool.
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Why do you support dems then?
 
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SamRebel35 said:
These things are often present in socialism, but they are not what makes socialism. Socialism is about who controls the means of production. Having tons of welfare and huge tax rates itself are not socialism.
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So a medical reform package that bans private insurance would qualify
 
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SamRebel35 said:
These things are often present in socialism, but they are not what makes socialism. Socialism is about who controls the means of production. Having tons of welfare and huge tax rates itself are not socialism.
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Yeah, alot of people believe that england is socialist but they're very highly taxed, though they do control healthcare. Now the gov can regulate a business so much, it's basically socialism by-proxy. These government handout do drift us towards a marxism/socialism
 
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MontyPython said:
Who ever said I'm a democrat? People assume alot.

I hate Trump. Everything about him. He's a clear and present threat to our nation as a whole.
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As opposed to the type of BS agenda the country endured during the Obama years? Holy sheep sht!
 
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MontyPython said:
In case you haven't been paying attention the past 3.5 years, Trump ALWAYS tries to straddle issues and be able to say that he took one side or the other depending on which way the wind is blowing.

His saber-rattling aside, everything Donald does is SOLELY geared towards himself. Namely getting re-elected.

And, oh BTW, which President elect promised to balance the budget, yet ran up over a $1 trillion dollar deficit last year? Hmmmmmmmm... I'll give you a hint... it's the President that already ran a bunch of his own companies into the ground, and now he's doing the same thing to the United States government.
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With the anticipation of getting his other agenda items passed, which appeared to be on target. Increasing employment, thus reducing government assistance, Bringing back manufacturing. Getting the s out of bad trade deals/ all of which will put more people on the tax roll and increase revenues. Guess which party has fought him tough and. Ali on this?
 
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DJimgo said:
so he just sits there with a rubber stamp and signs whatever comes in? Has nothing to do with the OMB or Senate?
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The last time he tried to take a stand against spending the gov't had to shut down and the left wing media hammered him for it. What more can he do other than shut the gov't down?
 
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Sea Ray said:
You need to brush up on civics. The House of Representatives control the purse strings. Republicans held the House from 1995 through 2006. Dems have controlled the House the past two yrs. Wise up
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You are partially correct, but the initial budget comes straight from the President's desk and, of course, he wields a veto to stop any budget he/she doesn't approve, thereby requiring a 2/3rds override by the Congress. And then, of course, there's the nexus between the President's party also controlling the Congress (SEE: 2016). So as a practical matter, Trump obviously had the opportunity to work with a Republican-controlled House and Senate to deliver on the balance budget he promised. Right? Yep. And guess what... he and the GOP failed. Why? Because he's an idiot and a liar... a greater of which I can't tell... and the GOP abandoned the notion of being fiscally conservative long ago.

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Roustabout said:
A Democrat who appointed constitutional judges, supports strong borders,opposes socialized medicine, and wants to get us out of bad trade deals. Has also managed to keep us out of new conflicts. Removed oppressive regulations. Made us energy independent. Now Is fixing prescription prices.
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Yeah, Kavanaugh, the guy who wrote the PATRIOT Act is a "constitutional" judge, LOL.

It was never about the trade deals, it was about the politics. All you have to do is look at the USMCA and see that it's exactly the same deal as NAFTA, only slightly worse (because it included increased socialist wage controls).

BTW, socialists tend to be for very strong borders.

He opposed socialized medicine for about 5 minutes.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
These things are often present in socialism, but they are not what makes socialism. Socialism is about who controls the means of production. Having tons of welfare and huge tax rates itself are not socialism.
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Yeah, what they mean technically is that Trump is a big-time central planner, which isn't any better than being a socialist.
 
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825VOL said:
Bless your heart.
You must have slept through Civics class
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Umm yeah, I'm gonna pass on a political debate with someone who provides no intelligent info whatsoever and then writes "Bless your heart", hits Post, and thinks to himself "Bamm, I got that guy good"

Please do point out which part of my post was incorrect since you were such a Civics class whip...
 
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MontyPython said:
You should be thanking Clinton for balancing our budget. W inherited a balanced budget (surplus actually), and promptly blew it up.

Same ol' song, different year.

Dems bring the deficit down, then GOP blows it up.

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Also, you say I should thank him like I don't give him any credit. Other than selling the Chinese secrets on his way out I approved of his Presidency. When the Republicans impeached him they gave the democrats the power that brought about the subprime loans of Fanny and Freddie.
 
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DJimgo said:
Umm yeah, I'm gonna pass on a political debate with someone who provides no intelligent info whatsoever and then writes "Bless your heart", hits Post, and thinks to himself "Bamm, I got that guy good"

Please do point out which part of my post was incorrect since you were such a Civics class whip...
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First, you posted a meaningless chart in comparison to your commentary.
Second, the President can propose any budget they want but it is the responsibility of the House to originate all budgets.
Third, the only time we have had a surplus in the last 30 years was when Newt controlled the house.
Fourth, your ignorance of the 3 facts above does not prevent me from thinking that you need a refresher course in civics it only reinforces my previous opinion.
Have a great day sunshine
 
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