Kavanaugh Confirmation

I don't know how to link it on here but one of the main CNN articles this morning reads: "Kavanaugh's Yale Classmates Say They've Struggled to Connect with The FBI". This article goes to what I was saying earlier about if this happened it would have been a big deal that stuck with folks.

This article is trying to portray the FBI investigation as a sham because it is apparently not accepting these folks' input. The only problem is none of the input is first hand input. All of the folks interviewed in the article say that they were students at the time of the Ramirez incident, they knew Ramirez well and lived either in the dorm where the alleged incident happened or in the dorm next door. If they knew Ramirez they more than likely would have heard her name brought up from the incident and like I stated earlier it would have stuck with them. You cannot tell me that something like that happened with a popular individual and a close friend of yours and you didn't hear of it.

All of the folks in the article claim that they did not know of the incident but know people who "may" have known of the incident. If you have reached out to the FBI stating that you have no direct knowledge of the incident in question and name someone who "may" know something why on Earth would you expect to hear back from them? I would expect the possibility that the FBI would reach out to the individuals I listed but if they feel it would just take them into another rabbit hole why would they investigate?

It's like CNN is slanted one way or something.
 
So I hope we get a reappearance of this? 😎😂😆

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This is the freshman roommate that K said he testified about in closed door session, who for some reason had an ax to grind and lie about him?

You often reference common sense then prove it not so common. Once again you have a stalemate of testimony with no evidence.

Common sense says you don't like Trump, you don't like K, so your prejudice is thinking for you. Admit your bias and move on. He'll be confirmed. Put your big boy pants on.
So K tried to discredit the roommate? Interesting. "Hey, this guy from 35 years ago for some unknown reason still has an ax to grind so you can't believe the things he is going to tell you."
Listen to the guy speak and try to unbiasedly judge his credibility. You think K is telling the truth and this guy is lying? Prejudice certainly does seem to be doing the thinking.
 
Oh, you didn't get trolled over the response. you got your ass handed to you by those who actually read the links in WaPo articles. And you're still standing on a broken premise of his article as a couple of us have explained. I'd hope you aren't that dense.

Now, I understand you disagree with his judicial philosophy. Specifically which parts and which cases he's judged? And don't say this article, I really don't want to have to prove you wrong again.

If you’d like to sit at the grown up table, maybe don’t brag about how excited you get over trolling lawyers. Behaving that way makes it seem like you need to validate your opinion of your own ego on an internet message board. Grown ups don’t do that.

Also, perhaps try to refrain from repeatedly (and incorrectly) pigeon holing people and making unwarranted assumptions about where they get their news. That way, everybody will know that you don’t have a fragile ego that’s tied to the success or failure of particular political party, rather than your own set of principles.

When you’re ready to behave like a big boy, we can talk some more about Judge Kavanaugh’s decisions.
 
So K tried to discredit the roommate? Interesting. "Hey, this guy from 35 years ago for some unknown reason still has an ax to grind so you can't believe the things he is going to tell you."
Listen to the guy speak and try to unbiasedly judge his credibility. You think K is telling the truth and this guy is lying? Prejudice certainly does seem to be doing the thinking.
You are free to interpret it that way. Tho, no one knows what K testified about him because it was closed door. All we know is that K referenced testimony where he apparently gave detailed information about why the guy was already coming after him, and the committee accepted the testimony and reasons given.

You have a lot of nerve. Accusing me of bias when you are repeatedly misrepresenting facts, leaning toward bias on things you don't know, and basically making a fool of yourself.

My stance is that there is no evidence. Only conflicting testimony. And I will abide the presumption of innocence until given a much better reason not to. So if i have a bias, it'll be toward something you have little faith in--the principle of personal liberties our country is founded on.
 
You are free to interpret it that way. Tho, no one knows what K testified about him because it was closed door. All we know is that K referenced testimony where he apparently gave detailed information about why the guy was already coming after him, and the committee accepted the testimony and reasons given.

You have a lot of nerve. Accusing me of bias when you are repeatedly misrepresenting facts, leaning toward bias on things you don't know, and basically making a fool of yourself.

My stance is that there is no evidence. Only conflicting testimony. And I will abide the presumption of innocence until given a much better reason not to. So if i have a bias, it'll be toward something you have little faith in--the principle of personal liberties our country is founded on.


Everybody has bias in this situation.

I just don't trust the people that wrap themselves in the flag and claim to defend theirs as grounded "in the principle of personal liberties our country is founded on."

And that goes for you and for Trump. No one believes either of you.
 
If you’d like to sit at the grown up table, maybe don’t brag about how excited you get over trolling lawyers. Behaving that way makes it seem like you need to validate your opinion of your own ego on an internet message board. Grown ups don’t do that.

Also, perhaps try to refrain from repeatedly (and incorrectly) pigeon holing people and making unwarranted assumptions about where they get their news. That way, everybody will know that you don’t have a fragile ego that’s tied to the success or failure of particular political party, rather than your own set of principles.

When you’re ready to behave like a big boy, we can talk some more about Judge Kavanaugh’s decisions.[/QUOTE

I bet that sounded better in your head.
 
Everybody has bias in this situation.

I just don't trust the people that wrap themselves in the flag and claim to defend theirs as grounded "in the principle of personal liberties our country is founded on."

And that goes for you and for Trump. No one believes either of you.
I can live with you not believing me. Can you live with no one caring what you think?

Your response is the exact response one would expect from someone without said principles on their side..

Toodles...










Counselor
 
If you’d like to sit at the grown up table, maybe don’t brag about how excited you get over trolling lawyers. Behaving that way makes it seem like you need to validate your opinion of your own ego on an internet message board. Grown ups don’t do that.

Also, perhaps try to refrain from repeatedly (and incorrectly) pigeon holing people and making unwarranted assumptions about where they get their news. That way, everybody will know that you don’t have a fragile ego that’s tied to the success or failure of particular political party, rather than your own set of principles.

When you’re ready to behave like a big boy, we can talk some more about Judge Kavanaugh’s decisions.
we were having a discussion earlier. no idea if you responded to my latest post. when I stop keeping up with this page it tends to jump by 10-20 pages easily and I just skip most of it. so point me to a post if you responded and I will read it.
 
I can live with you not believing me. Can you live with no one caring what you think?

Your response is the exact response one would expect from someone without said principles on their side..

Toodles...










Counselor




Oooooh, that delayed "counselor" really added to your moral authority.

















But not really.
 
-“I was a thug,” a “mischievous child”
-“I got into fights.”
-“I drank and did–and consumed substances that weren’t always legal.”
-“I might have drank a six-pack in an hour before going back to class”

—Barack Obama

Where’s the outrage from the Left? This was from a 2001 interview.
 
So K tried to discredit the roommate? Interesting. "Hey, this guy from 35 years ago for some unknown reason still has an ax to grind so you can't believe the things he is going to tell you."
Listen to the guy speak and try to unbiasedly judge his credibility. You think K is telling the truth and this guy is lying? Prejudice certainly does seem to be doing the thinking.
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WOW!!! What a viscious attack by Brett!!!!! Hard to believe he would try so hard to discredited his old roomate like that.
 

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You are free to interpret it that way. Tho, no one knows what K testified about him because it was closed door. All we know is that K referenced testimony where he apparently gave detailed information about why the guy was already coming after him, and the committee accepted the testimony and reasons given.

You have a lot of nerve. Accusing me of bias when you are repeatedly misrepresenting facts, leaning toward bias on things you don't know, and basically making a fool of yourself.

My stance is that there is no evidence. Only conflicting testimony. And I will abide the presumption of innocence until given a much better reason not to. So if i have a bias, it'll be toward something you have little faith in--the principle of personal liberties our country is founded on.

Here's the Link to the testimony. It was by a phone conference.

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/09.25.18 BMK Interview Transcript (Redacted)..pdf
 
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-“I was a thug,” a “mischievous child”
-“I got into fights.”
-“I drank and did–and consumed substances that weren’t always legal.”
-“I might have drank a six-pack in an hour before going back to class”

—Barack Obama

Where’s the outrage from the Left? This was from a 2001 interview.


He was honest.

So was George Bush.

Because they were honest about it, it gave them credibility when they said it was not an issue for them.

The reason Trump has no credibility is that he constantly lies about and tries to cover up his character flaws. He pays people, a lot, to hide them. He boasts about himself and lies about these shortcomings to the point of absurdity.

That's the difference.
 
If you’d like to sit at the grown up table, maybe don’t brag about how excited you get over trolling lawyers. Behaving that way makes it seem like you need to validate your opinion of your own ego on an internet message board. Grown ups don’t do that.

Also, perhaps try to refrain from repeatedly (and incorrectly) pigeon holing people and making unwarranted assumptions about where they get their news. That way, everybody will know that you don’t have a fragile ego that’s tied to the success or failure of particular political party, rather than your own set of principles.

When you’re ready to behave like a big boy, we can talk some more about Judge Kavanaugh’s decisions.
Fairly childish response. You could have just done a big raspberry, would have held the same meaning.
 
-“I was a thug,” a “mischievous child”
-“I got into fights.”
-“I drank and did–and consumed substances that weren’t always legal.”
-“I might have drank a six-pack in an hour before going back to class”

—Barack Obama

Where’s the outrage from the Left? This was from a 2001 interview.

Obama even did freaking cocaine and no lefty even cared! But K drank on weekends in college and that's somehow worse?
 
If you’d like to sit at the grown up table, maybe don’t brag about how excited you get over trolling lawyers. Behaving that way makes it seem like you need to validate your opinion of your own ego on an internet message board. Grown ups don’t do that.

Also, perhaps try to refrain from repeatedly (and incorrectly) pigeon holing people and making unwarranted assumptions about where they get their news. That way, everybody will know that you don’t have a fragile ego that’s tied to the success or failure of particular political party, rather than your own set of principles.

When you’re ready to behave like a big boy, we can talk some more about Judge Kavanaugh’s decisions.

I don't have any issues with you arguing actual legal differences you have with K and basing your decision on those differences. It's a refreshing argument from a liberal.
 
He was honest.

So was George Bush.

Because they were honest about it, it gave them credibility when they said it was not an issue for them.

The reason Trump has no credibility is that he constantly lies about and tries to cover up his character flaws. He pays people, a lot, to hide them. He boasts about himself and lies about these shortcomings to the point of absurdity.

That's the difference.

BK was honest too.

Serious question LG, do you believe everything Ford said under oath?
 
Everybody has bias in this situation.

I just don't trust the people that wrap themselves in the flag and claim to defend theirs as grounded "in the principle of personal liberties our country is founded on."

And that goes for you and for Trump. No one believes either of you.
One side has bias without any fact.....hint, it's your side
 

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