Kavanaugh Confirmation

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luthervol said:
You needed more proof?
How many times have I said Trump is a once in every 300 years catastrophe?
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How many times has it been explained to you why we have a Trump ? Your party goes all socialism and you get a Trump . Don’t like Trumps , stop doing the thing that causes it .. simple cause and effect .
 
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luthervol said:
I would imagine it was a small circle of d-heads that were using those terms and they thought they were being cool and clever. They also evidently have no desire to keep their buddy off the bench while at the same time embarrassing themselves.

One indisputable fact is that a large segment of the US thinks that a perjurer and probable sex offender was just sworn in. They then get to watch the celebration of those responsible.

As to your last question, of course I know and they know. We also know that many were forced in the other direction by the circus of the right. I think all on both sides are acutely aware that the gap is widening....MAGA
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Let's say the terms were limited to a small circle like you suggest. How is it that his college roommate that wasn't part of this circle knows the alleged meanings, yet no one outside the group in HS knew the meanings? IMO, that argument doesn't hold water.

As for the large segment of the U.S., they were never going to be happy with the choice because Trump. As for celebrating, I think many of those speaking out are doing so in direct response to the very public (and oft times unruly)demonstrations held by those opposed to Kavanaugh. If Kavanaugh had not been confirmed, do you doubt they would have loudly and publicly celebrated?

As for the last, I agree both parties keep moving further to the extreme, but there will always be those in the middle, and it's the middle that ultimately decides, IMO. When the left pulls such an obvious political stunt as they did with holding that accusation for weeks, they do not help themselves. When protesters line up to harass and bully the opposition, they do not help themselves. I think many of us in the middle expect a code of conduct that the left continually throws out the window. And yes, sometimes the right throws it out the window as well, but, IMO, it's far more common on the left.
 
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utvolpj said:
One day people will realize it's a dumb game and the ones who claim they're "winning" aren't even really playing. The main issue I've brought up with this justice is a huge part of that
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Once again you like to bring up what’s wrong but not only do you not have a plan or answer you said you give up on national politics . So you just like to cry about the race you pulled your dog out of because you can’t win . Good sound reasoning right there.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Once again you like to bring up what’s wrong but not only do you not have a plan or answer you said you give up on national politics . So you just like to cry about the race you pulled your dog out of because you can’t win . Good sound reasoning right there.
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I have lots of plans, I understand policy and do vote. I simply don't put forth the effort on national races because it's a waste of time. I'm not crying about anything

You have gotten nothing right about me tonight so maybe you should move on
 
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utvolpj said:
I have lots of plans, I understand policy and do vote. I simply don't put forth the effort on national races because it's a waste of time. I'm not crying about anything

You have gotten nothing right about me tonight so maybe you should move on
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Nah I think I do have you pegged as a smug political cryer that claims to have “ given up on party’s and just keep up with local now “ and claims to have plans and answers but doesn’t bother explaining what they are . You run a nice troll job .
 
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Weezer said:
Let's say the terms were limited to a small circle like you suggest. How is it that his college roommate that wasn't part of this circle knows the alleged meanings, yet no one outside the group in HS knew the meanings? IMO, that argument doesn't hold water.

As for the large segment of the U.S., they were never going to be happy with the choice because Trump. As for celebrating, I think many of those speaking out are doing so in direct response to the very public (and oft times unruly)demonstrations held by those opposed to Kavanaugh. If Kavanaugh had not been confirmed, do you doubt they would have loudly and publicly celebrated?

As for the last, I agree both parties keep moving further to the extreme, but there will always be those in the middle, and it's the middle that ultimately decides, IMO. When the left pulls such an obvious political stunt as they did with holding that accusation for weeks, they do not help themselves. When protesters line up to harass and bully the opposition, they do not help themselves. I think many of us in the middle expect a code of conduct that the left continually throws out the window. And yes, sometimes the right throws it out the window as well, but, IMO, it's far more common on the left.
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All good points Weezer. Too bad they're falling on a certain deaf ear.
 
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0nelilreb said:
How many times has it been explained to you why we have a Trump ? Your party goes all socialism and you get a Trump . Don’t like Trumps , stop doing the thing that causes it .. simple cause and effect .
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That's some convoluted logic there. The right will nominate a catastrophe unless the left does not go to far left?
 
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Weezer said:
Let's say the terms were limited to a small circle like you suggest. How is it that his college roommate that wasn't part of this circle knows the alleged meanings, yet no one outside the group in HS knew the meanings? IMO, that argument doesn't hold water.

As for the large segment of the U.S., they were never going to be happy with the choice because Trump. As for celebrating, I think many of those speaking out are doing so in direct response to the very public (and oft times unruly)demonstrations held by those opposed to Kavanaugh. If Kavanaugh had not been confirmed, do you doubt they would have loudly and publicly celebrated?

As for the last, I agree both parties keep moving further to the extreme, but there will always be those in the middle, and it's the middle that ultimately decides, IMO. When the left pulls such an obvious political stunt as they did with holding that accusation for weeks, they do not help themselves. When protesters line up to harass and bully the opposition, they do not help themselves. I think many of us in the middle expect a code of conduct that the left continually throws out the window. And yes, sometimes the right throws it out the window as well, but, IMO, it's far more common on the left.
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The roommate said he heard the terms used by K and his friends. He was very credible to me and I already had a pretty good idea what the terms meant. Bottom line, a large segment of people believe the right just put a perjurer on the court.
The middle does ultimately decide. If the middle wants Trump, God help us.
 
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luthervol said:
That's some convoluted logic there. The right will nominate a catastrophe unless the left does not go to far left?
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We’ve been through this .. the center not cent left or center right as defined by the parties but the true center is where the sweet spot is that everybody should try to be at , it’s where the country runs the best . When one side or the other goes too far left or right there will be a correction because it forces the voters to stand up and say hey , that’s enough . Your party led by Barry went too far left with the PC, everybody not of color is a racist , global elitist wanna be’s headed toward socialism . The voters said enough and elected Trump to correct the course . I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again , no matter how much you think it’s a great idea , this country doesn’t want to be European or have a socialist government . After Trump the best thing to do is try to find a centrist president or as close to it as possible .
 
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luthervol said:
The roommate said he heard the terms used by K and his friends. He was very credible to me and I already had a pretty good idea what the terms meant. Bottom line, a large segment of people believe the right just put a perjurer on the court.
The middle does ultimately decide. If the middle wants Trump, God help us.
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You should have a hard time asking god for help with something that’s going so well . Maybe ask for world peace instead .
 
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luthervol said:
The roommate said he heard the terms used by K and his friends. He was very credible to me and I already had a pretty good idea what the terms meant. Bottom line, a large segment of people believe the right just put a perjurer on the court.
The middle does ultimately decide. If the middle wants Trump, God help us.
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The middle wants the end of partisan BS but we know it's not likely to happen. Democrats and Republicans both put party before country so we're left scrambling to decide which is the better choice. Hillary Clinton represents everything wrong in politics. Running her was a huge mistake by the Democrats. The reason so many in the middle went with Trump is because he was anti-establishment. He was not a lifetime politician. Sure, he's an arrogant, obnoxious POS, but he wasn't more of the same. Personally, I thought both choices were bad, so I chose not to vote, but I certainly understand why those who voted for Trump did so.

As for the roommate, if we're being honest, you most likely found him credible because you wanted him to be credible. It's not credible to me that a college roommate would be privy to high school slang when no one from the high school stepped forward to counter Kavanaugh's translation. It makes no sense. I understand you want Kavanaugh to be a perjurer, a rapist, or whatever will disqualify him from the court, but zero proof exists of those claims. You want him to be bad because he has a political ideology different that yours. I'm sorry, but that's just ludicrous. We are still a country where you have to prove guilt. It's not about how you feel. It's okay to be pissed for purely partisan reasons, but you should really accept that you are pissed over the politics, not some unfounded, unproven allegations you put forward as fact.

As for the large segment of pissed off people, I guess we'll see which segment is larger and more pissed off after the mid-terms. Maybe your side will win, maybe they won't, but the elections should be interesting.
 
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luthervol said:
That's some convoluted logic there. The right will nominate a catastrophe unless the left does not go to far left?
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I don't think the leadership on the right wanted to nominate Trump, but they weren't really given a choice. And what you see as a catastrophe, many saw as something different. People are getting tired of the same old same old BS from Washington.
 
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luthervol said:
The roommate said he heard the terms used by K and his friends. He was very credible to me and I already had a pretty good idea what the terms meant. Bottom line, a large segment of people believe the right just put a perjurer on the court.
The middle does ultimately decide. If the middle wants Trump, God help us.
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Why is his roommate so credible to you? Other than the favt you have already made up your mind BK is guilty. Also, please prove a large segment of people believe he is a perjurer. And, why is perjury still a crime?
 
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