Kavanaugh Confirmation

The middle wants the end of partisan BS but we know it's not likely to happen. Democrats and Republicans both put party before country so we're left scrambling to decide which is the better choice. Hillary Clinton represents everything wrong in politics. Running her was a huge mistake by the Democrats. The reason so many in the middle went with Trump is because he was anti-establishment. He was not a lifetime politician. Sure, he's an arrogant, obnoxious POS, but he wasn't more of the same. Personally, I thought both choices were bad, so I chose not to vote, but I certainly understand why those who voted for Trump did so.

As for the roommate, if we're being honest, you most likely found him credible because you wanted him to be credible. It's not credible to me that a college roommate would be privy to high school slang when no one from the high school stepped forward to counter Kavanaugh's translation. It makes no sense. I understand you want Kavanaugh to be a perjurer, a rapist, or whatever will disqualify him from the court, but zero proof exists of those claims. You want him to be bad because he has a political ideology different that yours. I'm sorry, but that's just ludicrous. We are still a country where you have to prove guilt. It's not about how you feel. It's okay to be pissed for purely partisan reasons, but you should really accept that you are pissed over the politics, not some unfounded, unproven allegations you put forward as fact.

As for the large segment of pissed off people, I guess we'll see which segment is larger and more pissed off after the mid-terms. Maybe your side will win, maybe they won't, but the elections should be interesting.

There is no way like can answer this with any level of intellectual honesty.
 
I replied to the vindictive part since it was all that got quoted. I know why and so do you if you're being honest here

You read this forum daily and consider "team" to be trolling? Seriously? The people who are glad he was confirmed simply because he was Trump's choice deserve all shots taken at them since they're likely hypocrites
And the people that are disappointed K was confirmed simply because he was trumps choice deserve all the shots taken at them too since they're likely hypocrites.
 
There is no way like can answer this with any level of intellectual honesty.
As you know, I was open to Ford’s testimony and have comments on this thread to show it. This was from her written testimony. My initial thinking was how would you find someone that actually knew BK and get them to fabricate such a story. Only a few minutes into her testimony I knew it didn’t jive.
I had no desire for BK to be proven right. I wasn’t a fan of the pick in the first place and he still is a privileged, silver spoon, private school Richie. That doesn’t make him a rapist or a liar.

The fact is Fords bestie distances herself and has now testified that she was even asked to “adjust” her testimony. Why the Luthers focus on this yearbook crap and ignore the obvious handling and tactics from the left is a mystery. I’ve had more than a few folks who lean left say they are appalled at these tactics. BKs fuming reaction and comments are just that, a reaction. BK was a part of a coordinated assault and when the left’s star witnessed was exposed they then want to condemn him for a reaction to a situation that was the result of potential illegal tactics. And Luther is a friggin liar to focus on this petty crap and ignore the glaring corruption from his party.
 
The SC confirmation process.

So, other than the appointment of a SC Justice whose political stance differs from yours, the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years, job creation, tax cuts, multiple trade deals that favor the U.S., progress towards stability in North Korea, and the early stages of strengthening/modernizing our military, can you name any actual "catastrophes?"
 
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I have lots of plans, I understand policy and do vote. I simply don't put forth the effort on national races because it's a waste of time. I'm not crying about anything

You have gotten nothing right about me tonight so maybe you should move on

Trump is living proof of how wrong you are when it comes to national races, if memory serves me correct you hated my pics F720E5B1-3D0C-48B8-9B84-43E95F199AC5.gifso here’s one for ya 😂
 
The roommate said he heard the terms used by K and his friends. He was very credible to me and I already had a pretty good idea what the terms meant. Bottom line, a large segment of people believe the right just put a perjurer on the court.
The middle does ultimately decide. If the middle wants Trump, God help us.

They did last election and considering what you clowns have to offer, raise taxes, no border security etc it should be an old fashioned ass whooping. 😱
 
As you know, I was open to Ford’s testimony and have comments on this thread to show it. This was from her written testimony. My initial thinking was how would you find someone that actually knew BK and get them to fabricate such a story. Only a few minutes into her testimony I knew it didn’t jive.
I had no desire for BK to be proven right. I wasn’t a fan of the pick in the first place and he still is a privileged, silver spoon, private school Richie. That doesn’t make him a rapist or a liar.

The fact is Fords bestie distances herself and has now testified that she was even asked to “adjust” her testimony. Why the Luthers focus on this yearbook crap and ignore the obvious handling and tactics from the left is a mystery. I’ve had more than a few folks who lean left say they are appalled at these tactics. BKs fuming reaction and comments are just that, a reaction. BK was a part of a coordinated assault and when the left’s star witnessed was exposed they then want to condemn him for a reaction to a situation that was the result of potential illegal tactics. And Luther is a friggin liar to focus on this petty crap and ignore the glaring corruption from his party.
I want emotionally invested in BK either, and wish we had someone with a better view on the 4th as well as Obamacare. He's definitely not my pick.

But this process was also atrocious. Luther believes what he wants to believe, and is trying to justify it after the fact. No surprise.
 
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So, other than the appointment of a SC Justice whose political stance differs from yours, the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years, job creation, tax cuts, multiple trade deals that favor the U.S., progress towards stability in North Korea, and the early stages of strengthening/modernizing our military, can you name any actual "catastrophes?"
Leave him alone. This country has been completely and utterly ruined. Donald Trump’s presidency has been like three 9/11’s every day for the last 20 months.
 
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So, other than the appointment of a SC Justice whose political stance differs from yours, the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years, job creation, tax cuts, multiple trade deals that favor the U.S., progress towards stability in North Korea, and the early stages of strengthening/modernizing our military, can you name any actual "catastrophes?"

The only catastrophes are the Dems behavior since the election.
 
It's just how the sausage is made. In fact, I'd argue that if more people played the game of "most of what we want", we'd all get along a lot better.
Yep. It's called compromise, and it used to be the way Washington worked.
 
on the first point - why put up all this "vindictiveness" nonsense if your real beef is his judicial philosophy. that's what drove me most crazy about this process is how many people fundamentally disagreed with his JP but used personal destruction tactics to argue against him instead of arguing JP. Attack the judging; not the person.

Souter, O'Connor, Kennedy, Roberts, Stephens all disappointed the party that nominated them. I'm quite sure there are examples where "left" judges did the same to those that nominated them.
Exactly.

That wasn't a point that could keep him from being confirmed. They knew that going in. The other BS changed daily when it didnt paint him as something that it needed to either. It's not ironic that everybody wants to talk about his record now instead of a faded yearbook from 35 years ago and a party only 1 person remembers.

Could be that those claiming "teams" are really a part of one but disengenously pretend to be above the circus.
 
So, other than the appointment of a SC Justice whose political stance differs from yours, the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years, job creation, tax cuts, multiple trade deals that favor the U.S., progress towards stability in North Korea, and the early stages of strengthening/modernizing our military, can you name any actual "catastrophes?"
You just named his catastrophes though
 
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The SC confirmation process.
To blame trump for that circus is disingenuous. The Democrats proclaimed from day 1 they will deny his pick, who ever it was, with.. what was it... "everything they got" because "muh trumpzzz😫😫😫😫

That circus is at the feet of the democrats. I know you refuse to believe but yall turned off moderate voters. we will be able to see it in real time come November but I know alot of moderates that didnt care to vote that will vote against the democrats next month. Maybe this will make you realize how childish and extreme yall have been but since you haven't had a shred of accountability to date, I'm sure you'll come up with some weak blame to trump.
 
I am looking forward not to the cases on the supreme court but the arguing between the justices... Hard Right vs Hard Left... Must hear
 


This is why we have a Trump and why it’s important to put constitutionalist on the bench . These people ( sheeple) feed off of the leftist media , never challenge what somebody with a mic and a camera tells them and believes the SC should rule more off of “social justice “ than the constitution .
 
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This is why we have a Trump and why it’s important to put constitutionalist on the bench . These people ( sheeple) feed off of the leftist media , never challenge what somebody with a mic and a camera tells them and believes the SC should rule more off of “social justice “ than the constitution .

I'm waiting for the day when a constitutionalist is put on the bench. If it happens, it will be the first time in my life it's happened.
 


This is why we have a Trump and why it’s important to put constitutionalist on the bench . These people ( sheeple) feed off of the leftist media , never challenge what somebody with a mic and a camera tells them and believes the SC should rule more off of “social justice “ than the constitution .


Holy ****!!!
 
Democrats aren’t real happy with the FBI's findings because the FBI found nothing. They want another investigation. I actually agree with them. There needs to be an investigation into Christine Ford, her attorneys, and Senate Democrats.

So true! This was a planned set up. Ford was used as the idiot pawn.
 

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