Keep Bruce Pearl

#76
#76
OrangeNehi said:
What is it that makes Bruce haters hate Bruce so much? Because he wins? Because he shouts? Because he's Jewish? Because he prays before every game? His hair? His willingness to paint himself orange? I have wanted to ask that (those) question(s) for a long time.
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Fine, do you really want to know?

It's the sweat. Get some damned deoderant Pearl. I hate him so much.
 
#77
#77
Heebs said:
Fine, do you really want to know?

It's the sweat. Get some damned deoderant Pearl. I hate him so much.
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It's the prayers before the game for me. I could handle his lying to the NCAA if he didn't pray before every game. He's just too damn religious.
 
#78
#78
homefry20 said:
So youre making a blanket assumption on the citizens of Memphis about having weed? You made a great point with your first line though, the coach does have ultimate responsibility. If stalking sounds worse than having not one, but two illegal guns with filed off serial numbers; then I need to take part in whatever youre smoking.
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Right. Stalking and text messaging a girl that "it's time to die." Doesn't compare at all.

Dude, having a gun is constitutional right. Ever read the Bill of Rights? Dude just forgot to get them registered. :)

I mean, I've been in Memphis for a while now, and you prove me wrong...
 
#79
#79
LynxVol said:
Right. Stalking and text messaging a girl that "it's time to die." Doesn't compare at all.

Dude, having a gun is constitutional right. Ever read the Bill of Rights? Dude just forgot to get them registered. :)

I mean, I've been in Memphis for a while now, and you prove me wrong...
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Glad you cleared that up. I knew he was a fine upstanding citizen. Everyone that gets "sacrifice" tattooed on their neck is a fine gentleman. As for proving you wrong, I cant do that. I can only speculate that some people dont have any weed on them, however, I havent met them yet.
 
#80
#80
T. Smith is probably one of those kids that had the roughest pasts but is making amends today. Kid screwed up. Do some research and tell me he's a bad person.
 
#81
#81
homefry20 said:
Cal was never named in the Memphis case for multiple reasons. the main reason was that once he left, it was better for our university to not name him to keep the NCAA from digging deeper. We cut our losses and moved on. Cal is very dirty but he's also very smart. I was good friends with one of his family's best friends here in Memphis during his tenure. the man knows what he's doing but he's far from clean. See also: Eric Bledsoe grade change
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When Bledsoe was 'taking' algebra 3 he was being recruited at UK by BCG, not Cal and if he (Bledsoe) was cleared by the NCAA clearninghouse they should be accountable not any particular school
 
#82
#82
LynxVol said:
T. Smith is probably one of those kids that had the roughest pasts but is making amends today. Kid screwed up. Do some research and tell me he's a bad person.
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Now now, dont get all pissy on me here. I dont think hes a bad guy. I have a couple of fraternity brothers that went to high school with him and they tell me how rough it was on him growing up. I watched him beat Bolivar in the sectional his senior year on a half court shot. Man he was good. Wanted him to be a tiger honestly but I cant root for him when he goes elsewhere right? That makes me a plastic fan, at least thats what the people on our message board say. Im looking for some new automatic weapons too. I already have an AR-15, let me know if you can find me some.
 
#83
#83
dukes of maggard said:
When Bledsoe was 'taking' algebra 3 he was being recruited at UK by BCG, not Cal and if he (Bledsoe) was cleared by the NCAA clearninghouse they should be accountable not any particular school
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Wrong and wrong. Bledsoe was a verbal commit to Memphis while Cal was still our coach in the spring of 2009. As far as the clearinghouse goes. Derrick rose was cleared by the clearinghouse two separate times and you see how that ended up right?
 
#84
#84
DaDuRkEr said:
It isn't a matter of what Cal has or hasn't lied about. It is a matter of whether he was ever caught in a lie or ever admitted to doing so. I, for one, find it completely ludicrous that Coach Cal did not "know" that D Rose's brother was on official team flights for away games. For some reason Cal just seems to always get away with everything he does. The whole Bledsoe grade changing thing may eventually catch up to him, but I wouldn't put money on it. That is yet another thing that he had no idea was going on I am sure...

Maybe Coach Cal's pockets are much, much deeper than any of us could possibly know. We all know about the connections to Phil Knight, WWW, etc. What's to say that Cal isn't Gotti's illegitimate love child and has tie-ins to the mafia?

I'm not accusing, I'm just a kid that asks questions- Eric Cartman
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all I know is what's been proven, any other speculation is frivolous and inflammatory

bledsoe was cleared by NCAA's clearinghouse - no school should be held accountable for playing a kid who was cleared by the NCAA
 
#85
#85
dukes of maggard said:
all I know is what's been proven, any other speculation is frivolous and inflammatory

bledsoe was cleared by NCAA's clearinghouse - no school should be held accountable for playing a kid who was cleared by the NCAA
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Yea, tell me about it. But you apparently are unaware that the NCAA doesnt care.
 
#86
#86
homefry20 said:
Because hes very smart. You dont think he wanted Selby too once he reopened his recruitment? Of course, but he also knew the NCAA was watching Selby's re-recruitment and he wasnt willing to take a risk when he could get someone else a little more under the radar. Cal covers his tracks better than anyone in the NCAA. When he gets caught, it will be a monster finding, not a barrage of photos at his home or an extra cell phone.
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well it looks like everyone other than the NCAA is going after him, Pete Thamel (NYT) has written 2 articles in as many months casting cal in a negative light - he's the biggest name on the biggest stage in bball so it's gonna be like this until he leaves
 
#87
#87
dukes of maggard said:
well it looks like everyone other than the NCAA is going after him, Pete Thamel (NYT) has written 2 articles in as many months casting cal in a negative light - he's the biggest name on the biggest stage in bball so it's gonna be like this until he leaves
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It will be like this the entire time hes at UK. Just be prepared. He's not clean but hes smart enough to keep the NCAA at bay.
 
#89
#89
homefry20 said:
Cal was never named in the Memphis case for multiple reasons. the main reason was that once he left, it was better for our university to not name him to keep the NCAA from digging deeper. We cut our losses and moved on. Cal is very dirty but he's also very smart. I was good friends with one of his family's best friends here in Memphis during his tenure. the man knows what he's doing but he's far from clean. See also: Eric Bledsoe grade change
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I think if you're going to comment on his character (including off the court) it's at least worth mentioning all the good things he does for your city, my hometown and the people of Haiti. He raised over a million dollars for their recovery which is more than the entire country of Japan (seriously)
 
#90
#90
dukes of maggard said:
I think if you're going to comment on his character (including off the court) it's at least worth mentioning all the good things he does for your city, my hometown and the people of Haiti. He raised over a million dollars for their recovery which is more than the entire country of Japan (seriously)
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He did a lot of things for our city and Im glad he spent 9 years here. None of that is relevant to what I have previously written.
 
#93
#93
homefry20 said:
Why dont you respond to one of my other comments? Is it because you have no response? I didnt take a shot at his character, I took a shot at his tactics and the way he does his job.
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I didn't read you other comments, give me bullet points and I will happily respond.

How do you separate a guy's 'tactics' and his character?
 
#95
#95
homefry20 said:
Cal was never named in the Memphis case for multiple reasons. the main reason was that once he left, it was better for our university to not name him to keep the NCAA from digging deeper. We cut our losses and moved on. Cal is very dirty but he's also very smart. I was good friends with one of his family's best friends here in Memphis during his tenure. the man knows what he's doing but he's far from clean. See also: Eric Bledsoe grade change
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Dirty but smart:
I have no reason to believe he is any dirtier than any other coach at a high level - being named is different than being investigated which is different than being convicted/caught and Cal has never even been named. Camby took money after he was already enrolled and the NCAA (who knows more about the situation than either one of us) never mentioned Cal in the Rose situation. Sandy Bell (compliance director at UK) confirmed this before she allowed a contract offer to Cal when they fire BCG.

Bledsoe was cleared by the NCAA clearinghouse so what else do you want Cal to do? Go and get copies of his old tests?
 
#97
#97
dukes of maggard said:
Bledsoe was cleared by the NCAA clearinghouse so what else do you want Cal to do? Go and get copies of his old tests?
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how many times do I have to tell you that the clearinghouse does not matter? Its the responsibility of the school and staff to determine his eligibility. What kid takes algebra 3 before algebra 2?

and yes I would let my kid play for him. i dont think hes a bad person and I know he can get kids in the NBA. doesnt mean he follows the rules though.
 
#98
#98
homefry20 said:
Wrong and wrong. Bledsoe was a verbal commit to Memphis while Cal was still our coach in the spring of 2009. As far as the clearinghouse goes. Derrick rose was cleared by the clearinghouse two separate times and you see how that ended up right?
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sorry just found it

You may be right, i don't know enough to know when the grades were changed (if that is indeed what happened) I assumed it was while he was taking that particular class but i concede it is entirely possible (if not probable) that it happened late in his HS career. What I do know is that Cal wasn't the only coach after Bledsoe and Bledsoe wouldn't have the GPA to get into any school if he didn't change the grades, so the incentive was on him to cheat so he could play ball at any NCAA school.

as for the clearinghouse my point, which was parenthetical at best, was that if the NCAA says a player is clean and a team (any team, yours included) plays him, the NCAA should not be able to punish a school afterwords, regardless of what come to light.
 
#99
#99
Well I fully agree with that last point. And since this is a Tennessee message board, Ill concede the rest of this argument.
 
#100
#100
homefry20 said:
how many times do I have to tell you that the clearinghouse does not matter? Its the responsibility of the school and staff to determine his eligibility. What kid takes algebra 3 before algebra 2?

and yes I would let my kid play for him. i dont think hes a bad person and I know he can get kids in the NBA. doesnt mean he follows the rules though.
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Sorry for the clearinghouse point, I didn't see your reply until after you'd already made another point about it.

as for the school's responsibility, if they are given a transcript by his high school why is it unreasonable to assume that, just because his grades early in high school were bad he can't have a successful senior year? I believe the standard is 'did they know or should they have known' and there is nothing abotu his situation that suggests UK should have known.
 
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