Kellie Harper discussion/debate thread [merged]

Not fair for her to have to carry the scoring each night feeling she has to get 20-25 to keep it close. Could backfire and she’s pressing trying to do too much. We will have games where it clicks and we look great but on a nightly basis it’ll be a tough hill to climb.
RJ is a player who doesn't mind pressure to score. She's one of those natural born scorers who lives and breathes to score. The hope is the defensive attention she will draw will benefit everyone else, espec Jewel. Jewel has been experiencing RJ level defense lately and it ain't been pretty. She needs to be Robin this year, not Batman, and I believe she could thrive in that role. One thing that has surprised me about Jewel is I thought she'd be better getting to the rim when her 3 pt shot wasn't falling.
Lady Vols should win next 4 games going into conference season....

Record 8-4

Looking at SEC schedule, team should be no worse than 14-2 or 13-3

SEC is a crappy conference except for the normal top 3 teams...
Not sure why everyone is overlooking the danger of MTSU. If we think it can't get worse now, just think if we lose to them. And you know they're chomping at the bit. Nothing is a given for this team right now.
 
RJ is a player who doesn't mind pressure to score. She's one of those natural born scorers who lives and breathes to score. The hope is the defensive attention she will draw will benefit everyone else, espec Jewel. Jewel has been experiencing RJ level defense lately and it ain't been pretty. She needs to be Robin this year, not Batman, and I believe she could thrive in that role. One thing that has surprised me about Jewel is I thought she'd be better getting to the rim when her 3 pt shot wasn't falling.

Not sure why everyone is overlooking the danger of MTSU. If we think it can't get worse now, just think if we lose to them. And you know they're chomping at the bit. Nothing is a given for this team right now.
Not overlooking anyone just giving Lady Vols respect vs a Mid Major team...

RJ not playing hurts...but I've seen posters repeatedly state...

This team has "Elite" players...so if that's the case ...
Losing a Superstar for a few games shouldn't be a issue...Elite players should be able to overcome any obstacles...
 
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Lady Vols should win next 4 games going into conference season....

Record 8-4

Looking at SEC schedule, team should be no worse than 14-2 or 13-3

SEC is a crappy conference except for the normal top 3 teams...
I would not count MTSU as a lock. If we play like we did last night again, we could very well lose if RJ is still not back.
 
Want to win right off the bat hire dawn staley give about 2 million a year. And I don’t her lol we will never spend that kind of money especially women’s basketball. Like the ucla coach for one Kenny brooks, Florida gulf coast coach Utah coach ole miss coach surely we can find a coach
Staley makes over $3 million per year at SC.
 
I really don't understand what your definition of a negavol is. If it is a poster who tries to determine why a player is performing badly and says so, or criticizes the team for playing badly and gives their opinion why, I would call them a concerned fan who cares and may be stating why this happening, and maybe their take on what can be done to improve the situation. They are called great fans, fans that may have been around during the Pat years, and by being a fan that long they can comment, and deserve to comment, about the state of the program. They are in the real world. Of course, maybe the fans that listen to Winnercircle, who lives in fantasy land can't really tell the difference between fact and fiction. You are all fans of this program, and painting someone as a negavol is a disservice to some of the real concerned fans of Tennessee. Everyone's opinion should be respected whether you agree with them or not. I know the world we live in is all screwed up, but this little world shouldn't have to be.
 
Not overlooking anyone just giving Lady Vols respect vs a Mid Major team...

RJ not playing hurts...but I've seen posters repeatedly state...

This team has "Elite" players...so if that's the case ...
Losing a Superstar for a few games shouldn't be a issue...Elite players should be able to overcome any obstacles...
Whoever said this team has elite players was lying now that’s the truth
 
I really don't understand what your definition of a negavol is. If it is a poster who tries to determine why a player is performing badly and says so, or criticizes the team for playing badly and gives their opinion why, I would call them a concerned fan who cares and may be stating why this happening, and maybe their take on what can be done to improve the situation. They are called great fans, fans that may have been around during the Pat years, and by being a fan that long they can comment, and deserve to comment, about the state of the program. They are in the real world. Of course, maybe the fans that listen to Winnercircle, who lives in fantasy land can't really tell the difference between fact and fiction. You are all fans of this program, and painting someone as a negavol is a disservice to some of the real concerned fans of Tennessee. Everyone's opinion should be respected whether you agree with them or not. I know the world we live in is all screwed up, but this little world shouldn't have to be.
It’s a made up term to deflect. I went down this rabbit hole a few years ago with some “super fans of the get along gang” who believed their view was superior. They have sense blocked me but somehow are now coming around to reality.
 
Not overlooking anyone just giving Lady Vols respect vs a Mid Major team...

RJ not playing hurts...but I've seen posters repeatedly state...

This team has "Elite" players...so if that's the case ...
Losing a Superstar for a few games shouldn't be a issue...Elite players should be able to overcome any obstacles...
Like Uconn has?
 
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We cannot afford to lose another game until at least when we go to College Station to play A&M. If we lose any of the remaining OOC games it’s a five alarm fire.

This season we have a very backloaded schedule - our 3 games against SC and LSU all occur after Valentine’s Day. So we need to start stacking wins now.
 
We cannot afford to lose another game until at least when we go to College Station to play A&M. If we lose any of the remaining OOC games it’s a five alarm fire.

This season we have a very backloaded schedule - our 3 games against SC and LSU all occur after Valentine’s Day. So we need to start stacking wins now.
Yes thankfully we have time to grow… again it’s how u finish I get not having confidence in them but idc
 
We are a terrible fundamental team. We get boxed out so easy and we aren’t tough at all. We don’t pass or handle the ball and our defense is just as weak. A good passing and driving team eats us alive with open looks high and low. There is nothing this team does well at the moment. It’s hard to watch.

The team struggles with timing. Passes are often either too high or low or the wrong angle. When posts are open, we don’t find them. When we try to pass, they aren’t ready for the ball.

Then the real head scratcher for me, and maybe a basketball mind can explain this: we’ll have a post open in the paint and a guard at the top of the key. The guard will pass to the wing so the wing player can pass to the paint. By the time the wing player is ready to pass the ball, our post is either covered or out of position. Why doesn’t the guard just pass to the post???

We play together like we have never played together.
 
Downside with having a former player coaching is fan’s being stuck with nostalgia and not knowing when it’s time to cut ties. If Kellie wasn’t a former player the pitchforks would’ve been out.
If she wasn’t a former player (and Fulmer wasn’t the AD) she would’ve never been hired in the first place.
 
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If she wasn’t a former player (and Fulmer wasn’t the AD) she would’ve never been hired in the first place.

Fulmer needed a PR win in April 2019. The football team quit the final 2 games in 2018 under the pile of steaming manure known as Jeremy Pruitt. Barnes nearly left to UCLA because Fulmer neglected that relationship.

What better way to get good PR than hiring a pretty former Lady Vol as HC. Nevermind 0 NCAA wins in her first 14 years as a HC....
 
Fulmer needed a PR win in April 2019. The football team quit the final 2 games in 2018 under the pile of steaming manure known as Jeremy Pruitt. Barnes nearly left to UCLA because Fulmer neglected that relationship.

What better way to get good PR than hiring a pretty former Lady Vol as HC. Nevermind 0 NCAA wins in her first 14 years as a HC....
I'm sure, he thought, as I thought,, that since she made the tourney with non-SEC caliber players,,,,with such caliber of players, she would win even bigger.
 
I'm sure, he thought, as I thought,, that since she made the tourney with non-SEC caliber players,,,,with such caliber of players, she would win even bigger.

The NCSU tenure was enough to know it was a stretch...

I get why he hired her and yes, we all wished it would work but there's no track record to suggest we will reach program expectations...
 
It’s a made up term to deflect. I went down this rabbit hole a few years ago with some “super fans of the get along gang” who believed their view was superior. They have sense blocked me but somehow are now coming around to reality.

Nobody should pay any mind to anyone that uses the term "negavol". They are deeply unserious, nonintellectual people.
 

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