Kellie Harper discussion/debate thread [merged]

[knoxvol52]

That statement has been 10 years removed. We have fans settling for 3rd in the SEC

Plus thinking 3rd I conference is great...
Since when is it okay to not be the best in the conference???

 

[Majors]

Plus thinking 3rd I conference is great...
Since when is it okay to not be the best in the conference???

Definitely believing 3rd in the SEC and a S16 appearance is protected because it adds another year to a hanging banner.

 

[WVU05UT09]

Agree with the first, disagree strongly with the second sentence.

Yo is very much where KJH was when she was hired. We simply cannot hire another unproven coach who's best resume point is a recent miracle run in the tourney. Yo has already underachieved this year. Pass.

Def understand that. Its not a grand slam and she allegedly turned down Georgia so its not clear to me she would leave OM. Genuinely seems happy there.

I didnt list Nikki Caldwell because for gods sake no.

I dont think Kara would leave Duke.

 

[glv98]

I continue to be amazed at "lack of effort" posts. Do you really, truly think Kellie sees this ship sinking at her alma mater with her career on board and doesn't care enough to put forth effort? You think they want to epic fail, out loud, in public?

Please explain to me what would motivate a player or coach to intentionally look this bad on tv? That would be laziness on a scale I can't even imagine.

 

[Orange_Mamba]

Starting to worry about how this'll impact Rickea's draft stock. Good players draft well from so-so schools, but the WNBA loves to boost the stock of players that are coming from schools that make deep tournament runs.

Rickea’s top 4 regardless

 

[arkyvol]

What’s the point of firing Kelly just to replace her with another inbred?

 

[VOLnMiami]

Tennessee is going to face a size able amount of pressure to hire an African American female the next go around.

My bet would be on Yolette McCuin.

I really do not think race has anything to do with it...In fact zero.

 

[Majors]

I continue to be amazed at "lack of effort" posts. Do you really, truly think Kellie sees this ship sinking at her alma mater with her career on board and doesn't care enough to put forth effort? You think they want to epic fail, out loud, in public?

Please explain to me what would motivate a player or coach to intentionally look this bad on tv? That would be laziness on a scale I can't even imagine.

I saw a broken coach last night who seemed to not have the answers on the court and in the locker room leading up to and after the loss.

 

[Butch s]

I continue to be amazed at "lack of effort" posts. Do you really, truly think Kellie sees this ship sinking at her alma mater with her career on board and doesn't care enough to put forth effort? You think they want to epic fail, out loud, in public?

Please explain to me what would motivate a player or coach to intentionally look this bad on tv? That would be laziness on a scale I can't even imagine.

Don't think for one minute she want's to fail, but that's not the issue. She is failing, and has NO idea how to stop it

 

[creekdipper]

I saw a broken coach last night who seemed to not have the answers on the court and in the locker room leading up to and after the loss.

The staff includes three members with head coaching experience at the college level. Sam was having success at EKU and Joy had served as interim at FSU.

How can all three "have no answers" re: strategy and in-game adjustments? They all have input.

 

[Majors]

The staff includes three members with head coaching experience at the college level. Sam was having success at WKU and Joy had served as interim at FSU.

How can all three "have no answers" re: strategy and in-game adjustments? They all have input.

That’s great! And now they are here losing to MTSU. Sam got a significant pay raise, I never blame a coach for leaving EKU HC salary for P5 asst money.

 

[glv98]

Don't think for one minute she want's to fail, but that's not the issue. She is failing, and has NO idea how to stop it

Actually, whether they want to fail due to laziness is exactly the issue in the opening post.

 

[Special Ed]

I'd really like to know who Danny White has in his rolodex.

 

[creekdipper]

That’s great! And now they are here losing to MTSU. Sam got a significant pay raise, I never blame a coach for leaving EKU HC salary for P5 asst money.

That doesn't address the question. How can it be "incompetence" (i.e. lack of knowledge) with the amount of experience represented? Kellie played or worked under Pat, Joe Ciampi, and Wes Moore (and played AAU for Rick Insell). Samantha was on Wonder Boy's staff for years.

It's unfathomable that no one would know what to do given their vast experience. The questions should be about why certain actions aren't taken re: strategies, timeouts, substitutions, etc. when the current approach isn't working, and particularly why stability in recruiting has suffered.

The coaches are aware that the higher salaries come with higher expectations. It's also highly unlikely that their pride and affection for their players and the game itself would allow them to just coast along out of sheer laziness.

 

[Coach Jumper]

I continue to be amazed at "lack of effort" posts. Do you really, truly think Kellie sees this ship sinking at her alma mater with her career on board and doesn't care enough to put forth effort? You think they want to epic fail, out loud, in public?

Please explain to me what would motivate a player or coach to intentionally look this bad on tv? That would be laziness on a scale I can't even imagine.

this thread is started by
@StorrsCentral

Storrs = UCONN

Nuff said

 

[savannahfan]

I continue to be amazed at "lack of effort" posts. Do you really, truly think Kellie sees this ship sinking at her alma mater with her career on board and doesn't care enough to put forth effort? You think they want to epic fail, out loud, in public?

Please explain to me what would motivate a player or coach to intentionally look this bad on tv? That would be laziness on a scale I can't even imagine.

No I don't think it's effort or laziness.. I think, as bad as I hate to say it, is the staff just cannot do the job.. Everyone seems to be trying to be good. However they just don't seem to have the tools.

 

[Butch s]

Actually, whether they want to fail due to laziness is exactly the issue in the opening post.

AW OK BOSS

 

[Butch s]

That doesn't address the question. How can it be "incompetence" (i.e. lack of knowledge) with the amount of experience represented? Kellie played or worked under Pat, Joe Ciampi, and Wes Moore (and played AAU for Rick Insell). Samantha was on Wonder Boy's staff for years.

It's unfathomable that no one would know what to do given their vast experience. The questions should be about why certain actions aren't taken re: strategies, timeouts, substitutions, etc. when the current approach isn't working, and particularly why stability in recruiting has suffered.

The coaches are aware that the higher salaries come with higher expectations. It's also highly unlikely that their pride and affection for their players and the game itself would allow them to just coast along out of sheer laziness.

 

[Memvol44]

Tennessee is going to face a size able amount of pressure to hire an African American female the next go around.

My bet would be on Yolette McCuin.

Why is that??? How about the best available candidate...not based on sk8n color..

 

[Majors]

That doesn't address the question. How can it be "incompetence" (i.e. lack of knowledge) with the amount of experience represented? Kellie played or worked under Pat, Joe Ciampi, and Wes Moore (and played AAU for Rick Insell). Samantha was on Wonder Boy's staff for years.

It's unfathomable that no one would know what to do given their vast experience. The questions should be about why certain actions aren't taken re: strategies, timeouts, substitutions, etc. when the current approach isn't working, and particularly why stability in recruiting has suffered.

The coaches are aware that the higher salaries come with higher expectations. It's also highly unlikely that their pride and affection for their players and the game itself would allow them to just coast along out of sheer laziness.

HC has 20 years of mediocrity to failure. Start there with the question needing an answer. She said in her presser last night she “picks apart every decision I (she) make”

There is your answer of addressing incompetence

 

[Butch s]

That doesn't address the question. How can it be "incompetence" (i.e. lack of knowledge) with the amount of experience represented? Kellie played or worked under Pat, Joe Ciampi, and Wes Moore (and played AAU for Rick Insell). Samantha was on Wonder Boy's staff for years.

It's unfathomable that no one would know what to do given their vast experience. The questions should be about why certain actions aren't taken re: strategies, timeouts, substitutions, etc. when the current approach isn't working, and particularly why stability in recruiting has suffered.

The coaches are aware that the higher salaries come with higher expectations. It's also highly unlikely that their pride and affection for their players and the game itself would allow them to just coast along out of sheer laziness.

Some people are chiefs and some are just indians, no slight intended, before i'm tagged racist or anti anything

 

[Majors]

Don't think for one minute she want's to fail, but that's not the issue. She is failing, and has NO idea how to stop it

Even in her self reflection she can’t address the issues. We’ve discussed it here.

Starts with with the HC then works its way down the bench of those who are paid.

 

[volbound1700]

I guess the question now is who do we go and get?

 

[Majors]

Why is that??? How about the best available candidate...not based on sk8n color..

Agree, we tried listening to internal views of who we needed to hire and lost to MTSU last night.

 

[volbound1700]

What’s the point of firing Kelly just to replace her with another inbred?

I am now on the fire Harper bandwagon but I don't think it is fair to insult her. She has done a lot for Vol Nation and the program historically. Her stint may not be working out but we still need to respect her accomplishments.